The Seahawks Secondary and Kelly Jennings
Preseason games aren't very useful for team quality analysis, and only slightly more useful for individual player analysis. This becomes more true later in games, as unpolished young players flash their talent facing other unpolished players making mistakes, and vice versa. But what people often ignore is that (especially in week 1), you don't really gameplan much. You go in with your vanilla playbook, run the standard plays on offense and defense, and don't make opponent adjustments.
And that's how you end up with Kelly Jennings, simply the next guy up in our cornerback depth chart, playing opposite Marcus Trufant against the Chargers #1s. I'm speculating here, but if this were a real game with Walter Thurmond out, and the Chargers starting with 6'5 WR Vincent Jackson and 6'5 WR Malcolm Floyd* as wideouts, I don't think we would've started Kelly Jennings. Jennings played the defensive right cornerback spot for the first drive, let's see how he (and our starting passing defense) did by looking at a handful of relevant plays.
* 6'5 TE Kory Sperry actually started at WR, but he motioned in to block for the opening running play, and was then replace Floyd
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2-12-SD 9 (9:11) P.Rivers pass short right to V.Jackson to SD 15 for 6 yards (M.Trufant).
Marcus Trufant is playing about 5 yards off the line on Vincent Jackson. Jackson and TE Randy McMichael both run quick comeback routes. Leroy Hill is on McMichael, but Rivers never looks off Jackson, easy toss and catch as Trufe is behind Jackson.
3-6-SD 15 (8:31) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass deep left to V.Jackson to SEA 37 for 48 yards (K.Jennings).
Chargers are set in a shotgun formation with splitbacks and three receivers. The pass rush here is good, but Rivers steps up to the right as the pocket collapses, and heaves it deep to Jackson running a go route. Jennings is close on Jackson but not close enough to try and break up the pass, instead he wraps and brings him down.
The Seahawks have two safeties with deep half responsibility, Josh Pinkard on the defensive right, with the cornerbacks playing man. The Chargers send three deep. Trufant and Jennings are on two of them, and Earl Thomas is on the slot receiver (Patrick Crayton, I think). Pinkard is watching the assignments of both Thomas and Jennings, and soon sees Thomas lose a step on Crayton, who is running a post route. Pinkard cheats and then just runs towards that matchup, putting himself out of position to help Jennings, and arriving too late to even help with the tackle once he recognizes where the pass is going.
While this play highlights that Jennings should not be one-on-one on someone like Jackson, the coverage breaks down when Thomas and then Pinkard screw up.
1-10-SEA 37 (7:41) P.Rivers pass incomplete deep right to V.Jackson.
Jackson runs deep. Trufant is right on him. The ball is beyond Jackson's reach but even if it was in his reach Trufant would probably have knocked it away.
2-10-SEA 37 (7:41) M.Tolbert up the middle to SEA 38 for -1 yards (K.Chancellor).
Not a pass, I know, but I couldn't pass this one up. Curry comes around the edge and just smashes Tolbert. He doesn't finish, but the run is dead at that point, with Kam reacting well to mop it up.
3-11-SEA 38 (6:58) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass short left to K.Sperry to SEA 22 for 16 yards (K.Jennings).
On such an obvious passing down, the Seahawks finally show a bit of creativity, running a blitz which puts Raheem Brock in coverage on the tight end, Sperry, who runs a drag. Brock looks completely lost and Sperry runs for an extra 10 yards before Jennings tackles him. Just a bad matchup there.
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2-6-SEA 18 (5:43) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass short left to R.Mathews to SEA 9 for 9 yards (L.Hill, K.Jennings).
Chargers send three deep, which opens up a hole that Rivers uses by dumping off to Ryan Matthews. Matthews has little but daylight in front of him and runs it for 10 or so yards before Jennings, Hill, Curry and Thomas all converge on him. This one seems to be mostly Curry being out of position.
2-8-SEA 8 (4:21) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass short left to M.Tolbert for 8 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
Vincent Jackson runs to the corner of the endzone, with Jennings following him. Leroy Hill is covering the flat, but reacts too late to Tolbert. Jennings seems to have seen it sooner and puts himself in a position to stop Tolbert, but the small Jennings is hurdled by the small Tolbert.
Our defense looked really bad playing the Chargers starters. There was some pass-rush, but nothing to write home about. We stopped the run well. Mostly, Rivers just picked at holes in our coverage and bad match-ups created by some of our new and backup personnel, most notably Jennings, Hill and Brock.
Jennings didn't really stand out, but his performance did underline once again that he should not start opposite anything but undersized speedsters and slot receivers, which means he's your 3rd CB at best. It's a question of personnel management, which just isn't raised yet because it's the pre-season. He's an easy target for derision, but this drive told us nothing new about his skills or role with this defense (which, again, should be mostly slot coverage). Nor does this particular matchup tell us a lot about our defense, though our passing defense is still my biggest concern going into the season. Chancellor is the only one that stood out positively, and that more for his enforcing role, rather than his skills in coverage.
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Is it me, or does Browner seem like the man?
He manhandled some wr’s from what I saw, and never lost his man. Think he has a shot to stick? If so, even start. Loved his physical style of play.
Ka-Kaaa!
by JerryNice on Aug 12, 2011 12:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Browner is very likely to stick
And he certainly has a very noteworthy combination of speed and size. But he’s very happy with his hands, and was playing backups for the most part. It’s easy to like physical style of play, but I’m not sold on him yet.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 12, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Usually takes a while for flaws to be exposed.
I think he’s making the team and may even raise to the level of the third guy, as usual kicking Jennings or Thurmond inside on nickel. Could very well continue to look very good but we’d not know for a while whether his game will stand up to further scrutiny by opponents.
Head of catering.
by jacobstevens on Aug 12, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm a little afraid he's going to be a pass interference problem.
by MT Olson on Aug 12, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
All due respect to the usual attempt to rise above the rabble...
…I would have to say that this time the rabble is right. If your #2 CB can’t cover anyone above 5’10", you’ve got a gaping liability. Jennings is a #3 at best.
http://17power.blogspot.com
That's what I'm saying.
I’ll edit to make it a bit more clear.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 12, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I completely disagree
Not that I think that Jennings has the ball skills to have done anything about that play, but I think most of our corners would have looked worse. At least Jennings has good speed to recover to the point that he could make the tackle. Bottom Line is that play was Pinkard’s fault. He had over the top coverage. Jennings clearly thinks he has help and is trying to take away the under route and giving up the deep route. All of our corners would have looked bad on this play, but it was really the young safeties fault.
by stufr on Aug 12, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I disagree with your disagreement!
Jennings is playing up on the LOS, but does not impede VJ at all. Jennings lets VJ get outside – if it’s by design, then he’s not expecting help. If he is expecting help (from Pinkard), then doesn’t he have to keep VJ on the inside? I’m not saying our other corners wouldn’t have been beat – but I bet most of them would have got at least a piece of VJ.
I think the most important thing to note about Jennings is this: he can play perfect coverage without reducing the offense’s chance for a completion one iota. He’s incapable of making a play on the ball. He’s proven that over several years. The only use I see for him would be slot corner – but it looks like PC is trending toward having ET/LeGree move up and take on the slot receiver.
by PerryCollective on Aug 12, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
"Jennings lets VJ get outside"
Pete said that the corners are only expected to defend one “side” and they want this to be the inside, so as to prevent bigger plays. If Jennings defended the inside, he was doing what was expected of him.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Jennings had good coverage this play
I agree with Stufr here. KJ had better coverage than ET and actually made the tackle before Pinkard even got there. KJ is not a total stud but this play is very typical of fans getting on him at the wrong time. Pinkard has not been a Safety for a long time and just had a good learning experience.
Nice fair review Beekers. I wish Browner could have jammed on Vincent a few times to give us a good idea of a game situation.
Respect goes a long way....
by Mangolover on Aug 12, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can't be calling him KJ
When Wright is likely to be getting some semi-regular action. Nobody’s gonna know who you’re talking about! Just sayin.
by CMoney87 on Aug 12, 2011 10:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Jennings and Tru both catch a lot of flack for safety mistakes.
When they’re getting burned it’s generally against a pretty good WR with no help.
But it’d be nice if Jennings made a play once in a while…
Jennings is in man coverage (I assume)
The primary responsibility in man coverage is to play the inside and force the QB to throw over you. It looks to me as though Jennings simply got beat deep, even though he fully expected there to be safety help. This doesn’t look like a huge mistake on Pinkard’s part to me; the play is designed to make the safety choose which route to defend – the post or the go route. This is one of the times where the safety’s decision hardly matters; the QB will throw to whichever route is not being covered by the safety. Crayton looks to be slightly deeper than Jackson IIRC, so Pinkard’s not entirely in the wrong for biting on that route.
Eddie Izzard ran 43 marathons in 51 days with 5 weeks of training. What's stopping you?
Crayton wasn't deeper, but the coverage on him was worse
Earl Thomas lost him, that’s where it starts to fall apart. Pinkard then cheats too far towards that route, which locks him out of returning to Jackson if that’s the throw, which is just bad for deep zone responsibility. If you want to order “who screwed up” there, Jennings comes in last.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 12, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
On watching it a third time, you're right
Pinkard should’ve passed the receiver on to the other safety and noticed Jackson quicker.
Eddie Izzard ran 43 marathons in 51 days with 5 weeks of training. What's stopping you?
Thankyou
I still think Jennings should be fourthish on our depth, but he isn’t the reason the ball was thrown. Rivers throws based on Pinkard’s movement, not what Jennings is doing. He assuming that Jackson will beat Jennings one on one, which is a good assumption.
by stufr on Aug 13, 2011 4:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree here
Jennings didn’t make the fantastic play that was theoretically possible for him to make, but just because he got burned for the big gain. doesn’t mean he played particularly poorly on the play.
VJ is the prototypical nightmare matchup for Jennings and we have seen it over and over again for years.
The safeties blew it on this play though. Both outside WR’s did nothing but streak straight down the sideline. The safeties decided to contribute to the triple-team of Crayton, leaving Jennings one on one with VJ who had the step. The pass was perfect.
by michaelfox99 on Aug 12, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why Thurmond is #2 on the depth chart.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Well what have we really seen from Thurmond
I dont remember him really standing out last year
He was a rookie that missed most of training camp after recovering from a major injury
This year he should be better prepared physically and mentally.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 12, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
as a Husky fan, I'm unfortunately familiar with Thurmond
he is the real deal.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Aug 12, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Jennings just isnt starting caliber
Tru looked pretty good in coverage though which is a very good sign because we need at least one solid CB so so badly this year.
by The Great Googly on Aug 12, 2011 1:00 PM PDT reply actions
If curry can get in the backfield like the play above on passing downs...
His name and the word bust would only be in the same sentence if “is not a” is in the middle.
I'm pretty sure Standard and Poor listed Kelly Jennings
as the reason why the U.S.A’s credit rating was downgraded.
I don't have a gun, but if I did, I would shoot a baby deer in the mouth and feel nothing. Louis CK
Kelly Jennings is responsible for the cut of Nick Reed.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 12, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Nonsense
Only Nick Reed can cut Nick Reed, but Kelly Jennings let him do it (from 10 yards away).
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 12, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Reed was such a Pre Season hero!!!
by Captain Spaulding on Aug 12, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Reed was such anPre SeasonAmerican hero!!!
Learn JiuJitsu.
Always looking for that new danger.
He's gone back to his home planet of Krypton
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 12, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
First Elvis, now Nick Reed
We just can’t catch a break with our heroes anymore.
by SmartAssCoug on Aug 12, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction
Jennings was right next to him but wiffed when he went to snatched the knife….
Respect goes a long way....
Kelly Jennings was Tyrone Willingham's #1 reference
on his job application to UW.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Kelly Jennings started the Lockout
Nick Reed, of course, ended it.
by B.B.Finnegan on Aug 12, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
He sure doesn't show it.
http://17power.blogspot.com
This is incredibly early.
But say the secondary is pummeled again like last season. Pathetically bad. How much of this blame lies with Gus Bradley? How much of the defense is he responsible for? Granted, he’s been working with bottom of the barrel talent, but Bradley’s defenses have been awful since he came to Seattle.
We have very little but question marks on defense, especially on defensive line and in the secondary
Dunno if I’d blame the coordinator for that
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 12, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed - and I think it's part of the plan
Offenses take more time to gel, and most positions (other than RB) have a longer career span. Build the O first. They are using late picks (for now) on D, but once the offense is more complete, I think we’ll start seeing more investment in the D.
by PerryCollective on Aug 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this backlash because Bradley might have Mora cooties on him still?
It is Pete’s defense, not Bradley’s.
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Aug 12, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Then I really need Bradley's job.
I can just stand on the sidelines and pretend to be a defensive coordinator while the HC calls the shots.
by Wayward Llama on Aug 12, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I am sure coffee duty is involved as well
Point is, the player types are from Pete, the 4-3 under is from Pete, and the philosophy is from Pete. Bradley administrates. If he wants to do it his way, he is already gone. (see Bates)
Would be a nice gig, though. Kind of like being Andy Reid’s offensive coordinator.
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Some of the blame will continue to lie with Carroll...
…for continuing to pass on 3-tech DT’s in the draft. As long as we lack pass rush up the middle, pockets persist and the secondary is too exposed.
http://17power.blogspot.com
Jennings clearly started to slow-up when he thought help was coming.
I’m far from an expert on secondary play . But I can think of no good reason for him to let up just because he thinks the safety is on top.
To cover an underthrow?
I’m far from an expert, but I’ve often seen a long gain in the NFL because the receiver slowed up at the last second and the DB was beyond where the ball was thrown. If you have two guys, seems like you might try to cover both options. Not saying that’s what happened though, haven’t examined the play.
by Snuffleupagus on Aug 12, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
As a corner your man is always your first responsibilty
Unless its a true zone scheme and the receiver comes back inside or the safties playing wide and you pass him off you never leave you’re guy until the ball is going somewhere else. I played DB through HS and every coach I ever had always had a similar mantra of “you worry about your man”. If a play goes short because the CB follows his guy downfield its usually because the LB busted coverage, contain was broken on that side opening a throwing lane or its just a hole in the D.
by CMoney87 on Aug 12, 2011 10:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The Seahawks defense seems incapable of stopping a short pass to the running back.
There seems to be this giant hole in our scheme at the LoS on the right side of the field, because whenever the opposing teams dumps a pass to a RB/FB/TE near the LoS, they’re almost guaranteed 5-8 yards a pop; same thing happened early in the first Niners game last year, where San Fran was marching down the field with little more than short passes to Frank Gore and Denard Walker.
It’s almost like we don’t have a WILL linebacker on the field during those plays.
By your logic, Bradford's Cap'n Checkdown performance in week 17 should've killed us.
Not disagreeing…but yeah.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
I think we made adjustments after that Niner game
because I don’t recall our defense being picked apart in such a specific way afterward….maybe the other teams realized they could just throw the ball down the field with little interference from our secondary, and forgot about dumping off to their running backs.
It isn't coincidence that all the effective backfield passing was
right after Rivers stretched the field with a 48 yard completion. Something Bradford couldn’t due, quite simple because no one could catch those deep passes.
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Aug 12, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Fish Called Wanda?
just got it.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
K-k-k-k-k-Ken
I think I know enough of hate/ To say that for destruction Rice/ Is also great/ And would suffice.
Whoa whoa whoa
Nick reed was cut, I thought he was on IR
Released on an injury settlement a year ago
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 12, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Reed changed his first name to Jeff
and now he’s a kicker.
I think he'll be more of a 2010 Nick Reed.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
Nice, factual breakdown.
I agree with most everything written in the article.
2011: Building the Trenches.
I think Jennings' floor and cieling are about an inch apart.
cue the Dennis Green…

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