Five Noteworthy Performances in Preseason Week 1 - Defense
As meaningless as the final scores are for preseason games, these games matter a lot for individual players, whether it be drafted rookies with something to prove or fringe players trying to make the team. So here are five performances I felt were noteworthy from our defense. Noteworthy doesn't mean it's positive, just that they stood out to me.
Interior Defensive Line: You would expect our first-team defensive interior rotation to be mostly Alan Branch and Brandon Mebane, but Mebane didn't play that many snaps. Instead, Junior Siavii rotated in a lot on 1st-team, and even Jimmy Wilkerson kicked into the inside at times. Having Wilkerson and Brock as defensive ends was interesting but not an experiment I hope to see a lot in the regular season. Regardless, the interior defense played fairly well. Mebane commanded double teams and collapsed the pocket like we're used to seeing him do as a 1-tech, and even got into the backfield once on limited snaps.
I'm a bit less sure about Alan Branch, who stayed in much longer, playing next to Junior Siavii with the second team. He didn't show a lot of pass moves rushing inside. He's pretty quick and aggressive off the snap, and pushes relentlessly. His standout plays were nearly getting to Rivers on the deep ball to Vincent Jackson (looks like it could've been a sack with better coverage), and knocking down a Billy Volek pass.
K.J. Wright/Malcolm Smith: Wright and Smith came in as second teamers at the MLB and WLB positions, relatively. Wright was expected by most to play the SLB and Leo spots so it's interesting to see him used as an MLB. Both players played fairly well, particularly in run support. Smith was used in coverage less than Leroy Hill but played the position well. He played well in run support, particularly in the 3rd quarter where he had a few nice tackles. K.J. Wright looked pretty decent, strong particularly in run support but occasionally lost in passing situations, either not contributing at all or looking lost in coverage. An example of this came on a 15-yard pass from Billy Volek to Seyi Ajirotutu, where Wright had his eyes on Volek, who was staring down Ajirotutu, but for some reason didn't stop to cover the receiver.
Brandon Browner: Browner looked physically impressive, a pretty fast, mobile 6'4. He came up to tackle at times, noticeably on a short catch by TE Kory Sperry and another dump-off pass to Jordan Todman, and he looks like a sound, aggressive tackler. That said, there's a bunch of red flags here too, or really one big red flag. He looks very undisciplined and happy with his hands, and that's just asking for pass interference penalties. He might get away with it the same way the press-man corners in San Diego do by being consistent about it, but it's a risk, and I'd rather see him improve his hands discipline to make it less of an issue. That said, he seems to have all the tools to play cornerback. His best play was in coverage of Laurent Robinson, where he whipped his head around just in time to knock down what would have been a touchdown catch. It'd be good see him looking for the ball some more when in coverage, he doesn't seem very apt to turn his head to the pass, not responding when the receiver is clearly setting to receive. Don't want to sacrifice mugging to coverage.
Jeron Johnson: Johnson didn't get too many snaps, but he made the most of the snaps he did, registering two tackles, including one for a loss, and defending two passes. The tackle for a loss was a nice stop on 3rd and 1, running from the defensive left end to the right to tackle Isaac Odim one yard behind the line. Johnson was used as a movable chess piece, which is always my favorite type of player, lining up all over the field with different assignments. He performed well, and broke up the final pass of the game, a nice play where he positioned himself well enough to pick off the ball with a bit more luck.
Pierre Allen: Allen already came in on the 2nd team a bit into the second half, playing both defensive end spots. I noticed him a few times pushing into the backfield, but of course he really showed up when executing his specialized roar-sack from the weakside DE spot on Scott Tolzien, forcing a fumble that was recovered by Pep Levingston (who also had a nice though not outstanding game). The next snap Tolzien took after we scored, Allen got into the backfield, Tolzien panicked at mediocre pressure, and then scrambled downfield with Allen chasing him. It was amusing.
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Sorry if my observations on Johnson/Allen aren't very good
One thing I hate about preseason games, when the thirds come in the broadcast barely shows the field anymore, instead we have to look at Jaws and Gruden mug and listen to uninteresting player interviews.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 12:15 PM PDT reply actions
Still hyping the Kam Chancellor express...
I want to add him to your list because he looked VERY quick to the ball in run support in the first quarter. He and Thomas make me jump with glee.
I can't score Canche's performance
I never doubted his ability to play the enforcer at the line, and he played very well at it. But if he’s to be our starting SS, that is a very unimportant facet of his job. I simply didn’t see enough of him deep to know how well he did at it. So it’s a blank, with the note that he does one thing that isn’t that important very well.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
you just bummed me out so bad.
ugh
by Moresoftness on Aug 14, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Someone should do a power ranking on commentators
and a ranking system of coverage.
Also do you see the Seahawks using K.J. and Browner extensively in next weeks game? Both players seem to be quite intriguing when in comes to their skillsets and would love to see both succeed and make the team. Especially if Browner can stop his wandering hands
Watching the Seahawks is like peeing on yourself, everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling it brings
KJ stayed in for a long, long time. I expect him to do the same next week
I want to see Browner in with the 1sts. If it wasn’t W1, he might’ve been this game.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
after he makes a few big plays against #1 WRs will you then believe in Browner???
I’m telling you again he’s a certified beast! and both these last two post are annoyingly accurate bro, good work, back too offense for a second all i have to say is DOUG BALDWIN!!! sleeper of the year, slipped on Mallet but DB fresh could turn out to be epic!
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
after he makes a few big plays against #1 WRs will you then believe in Browner???
I’m telling you again he’s a certified beast! and both these last two post are annoyingly accurate bro, good work, back too offense for a second all i have to say is DOUG BALDWIN!!! sleeper of the year, slipped on Mallet but DB fresh could turn out to be epic!
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
Browner looks like he will make me regret my off-hand dismissal
Which is great. He certainly looks the part physically, but that’s never the whole story. Will be an interesting guy to keep an eye on.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He does have "happy hands" however...
its not just his physical stature that give him an edge i honestly think he can close down on routes quicker than most corners because he’s used to covering a longer and wide field when he was in the CFL. I predict some will underestimate him and how quick he is at 6"4 and under or overthrow some passes right in those “happy hands”
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
Those happy hands should serve him well if the Seahawks get to the playoffs.
Officials allow a lot more contact from the DB’s
so true...
suprised he wasnt called for em’, shoot he can have happy hands all year if he takes away big plays, even if a couple pi’s get called, Who’s gonna play Roddy White or Brandon Lloyd, Jennigs??? Maybe Thurmond or True but count on em’ to have trouble in man coverage against your Fiztgerald type freak WRs regardlesss how great I do believe those guys can defend. In games vs. teams with 6"3 plus WRs a guy like Browner is critical to have in preventing match up issues we’ve had for a few years now. Can’twait to see how he fairs opposite a #1 deep threat.
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
Browner needs to get gloves that match the color of opposing teams jerseys.
Those light colored ones he wore against the Chargers really stood out against their dark jerseys.
by eohawkfan on Aug 15, 2011 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
One of several reasons why I really miss Paul Zimmerman.
Head of catering.
by jacobstevens on Aug 15, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yip. To 75 on that day
Then to 53 on the 3rd of Sept. Very short window between the two, which will be tough for our FO who will no doubt want to scavenge other people’s leavings.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting you compared Smith to Hill, as far as coverage.
Hill was the Sam and Curry Will during their respective playing time together, Thursday. And Smith, as you noted, was Will.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
I noticed Hill and Curry moved around a lot
As far as I know, and according to the depth chart, Hill is our starting Will and Smith his backup. I figured the movement was about the offensive line shifting, as the Chargers shifted it a lot. Are you sure Hill was the fulltime Sam and Curry the fulltime Will? That would be very curious.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like you're right for the first handful of snaps. I think I didn't notice because the Chargers shifted their strong side to their offensive left for a lot of snaps
Something worth keeping an eye on. Not enough snaps now to speculate on what this means.
Curry on that nice stop on Tolbert was lined up as a Sam on the outside shoulder of the TE.
Curry also seemed to stay in for nickel situations already. Tracked an assigned receiver for coverage. Interesting stuff.
If they keep this up next game we might want to speculate on what this means.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
During the game, I noticed immediately Allen was not the under tackle,
but I casually thought they were in some sort of bland or vanilla front with Clem and Red out. But upon re-watching it, I noticed so much more. Curry at Will (and staying in at Will in nickel) and Hill at Sam, consistently. And for sure the Chargers motion a lot, but hell, Kam was right behind Hill on every snap. That should have been a clear indicator without the need for review (speaking for myself here).
I totally agree; first half of the first pre-season game is not enough to draw any conclusions. But, Allen at 3-tech makes far more sense. It would be the same situation where Mebane and Hill had their (NT in over and Sam respectively) greatest statistical impact. And it would be consistent with what Wash is familiar with. Also, Carroll has shown to let his assistants implement their schemes and ideas. In any case, I cannot wait for Saturday’s game to continue to track it.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
Allen? Alan?
Enyeart let me know he heard the coaches are indeed looking for Curry’s best spot. I think Curry for one would certainly agree to more pass coverage and less pass-rushing, and if he gets it now (he’s certainly physically capable of it), it would be awesome to see him as a nickel linebacker.
As for the switch from Sam to Will, it’s certainly interesting, as is mixing stuff up with over 4-3. Still, I don’t want to draw any conclusions based on a hobbled line. We might just have been experimenting with a defense we’ll rotate in at times. We’ll see. I’m digging flexibility in using LBs, though.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man...
Yes, Alan. As in Branch. Apparently I have a subconscious aversion to discussing “Branchs” and “Seahawks” now. Goodness sakes…
Pierre Allen came in as weak side DE for Brock after Konz got a snap or two.
Anywho…
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
And no,
no conclusions or certainty here. Only an interesting development to keep a very close eye on.
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Duke, wanted to ask you something, could you email me at seahawksforthewin@gmail.com?
thx.
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Yes.
I re-watched every defensive snap from the first half, yesterday. I’m absolutely certain.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
...yes, I recognized that you were right in the post right above the one you are replying to :|
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hill played WLB earlier in his career, shifted to SLB for a couple of years and then moved back to WLB in 2009
If I’m not mistaken, he also played MLB in college.
He’s probably better playing the WLB (mostly stopping the run but sometimes rushing the passer), but he’s probably flexible enough to be move around a bit.
/not directly related to your comment.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 14, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No worries.
He did play Sam here before Peterson came aboard.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
Wait, that may have been directed to Beekers.
I’ve had many beers.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
I am really interested to how KJ Wright develops moving forward.
He did seem to to a decent job in run support, proving to be a pretty sure takle for the most part. However, I do have (unreasonably?) high hopes for him, and as mentioned he did look lost in coverage. He looked particularly bad the final defensive play of the game where he couldn’t figure out who he was suppose to cover until his man was running pretty free in the endzone. Had that coverage been blown against a starting NFL QB, I think the results of that play would have been different. I hope to see him get plenty of reps in the next exhibition so that he has the opportunity to develop into a solid Mike for the Seahawks. Also, what’s with the knock some have had on him for being “too tall”? I could see if the critique is that he is too lean for his height. But, if he is able to stay in a good, low position, then how does that hamper you to be 6’4"? Thoughts?
...and if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump it's ass when it jumped.
I haven't re-watched but expected to hear more about Pep Livingston.
Perhaps it was me being blinded by the announcers’ mentions of him and that sticking in my memory.
2011: Building the Trenches.
I remember Pep deflecting a pass, which would have gone for a first down if it was completed. A nice play.
"Beware challenger
Thou hath angered Hawku fan
COME AT ME THOU FOOL"
Maybe I am just dreaming, but in the recent past I don't remember having this many 'bright' spots during the preseason...
Of course, Nick Reed counted for maybe 3 or 4 on his own – and then there was the Forsett express that we all got on during his rookie campaign… so am I dreaming, or are John and Pete simply bringing in more relevant talent?
Nah, preseason's usually a time for irrational exuberance.
If they suck the shine’ll come off the apple real quick. Hope that doesn’t happen.
You get a chance to analyze LeGree at all?
I saw at least one play where they used him as a single-high safety a la what he did in college.
No K is OK
I like Legree...
he didn’t seem to be in the mix enough but he also wasnt trying to get burnt over the top his first time out, im not sold on his ball skills for i haven’t seen em have to use em’ enough. The one thing FA SHOW about Legree his he hits like he is tryin to get be the first person on foot to be charged with vehicular homicide. Earl, Kam, Legree, Jerod…notice how they are all guys that make WRs here footsteps? love this as a fan, I love how the defense is coming together.
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
grammer fails f#@$ blame it on the Rum
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
Went to training camp today.
Thought I would share my observations while I remember them. Keep in mind that this was a non-contact practice so not as real as it could have been.
-Mike Williams took part in a very limited amount of the drills. Looked to be limping at the end. Hopefully he gets better soon.
-Didn’t get a great look at Sidney Rice; the only times I saw him Sherman guarded him and did not let him catch anything (could have also been bad throws)
-Tarvaris was off and on and it was hard to get an idea of what the can do. He seems to be more ready to scramble than throw though. Charlie was the same but he seems to step up in the pocket more often and throw the ball somewhere.
-Bobo took part and did pretty well. He caught a ton of passes with room to run.
-Golden made one great grab but t hen also had a bunch of drops. He doesn’t seem to have the ability to get open and give the Qb easy throws or himself easy catches. Still holding on hope.
-Pat Williams #19 made some plays with the 2s today; saw him catch at least two td passes from Charlie.
-ET looks solid, and was able to pick off Tavaris once today. As there was no tackling it was hard to guage how well the defense was doing. They didnt really allow too many easy plays and they definitely broke into the backfield to tag the running back more than once. I did not see Chris Clemons play but Red looked to be back and doing well. Mebane rocked the o line.
Hope this was insightful. It was hard to see everything with the amount of people there. Favorite part of camp was Jon Ryans flowing blonde hair and crazy fu-man-chu beard. Also it was great to see the false starts and watch the o lineman have to run a lap. Funnier than it should have been.
by dogsho on Aug 14, 2011 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Thanks For The Update
I appreciate these. Glad to see Red back in Action as well.
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Hey In4life:
I like the idea of opposing WR’s looking over their shoulder while trying to make a catch. Add Browner to that mix as well. There could be a sign posted over the visiting team’s entrance to the field to their receivers: “May be hazardous to your health.”
This is a far cry from the little choir boys of the Timmy era.
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by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 14, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes Bro!!!
Dudes will getting laid out this year if im a slot reciever or like catching stuff in over the middle im not looking foward to playing Seattle nearly as much as the last few seasons. l’m thinking “if I catch dis shit, it could really end up with everybody down on a knee with me waking up an 10 minutes later sounding like that funny older dude in that movie”A Mighty Wind" talkin bout “WHAAA HAAAPPEN” whats happening is PC and JS are crafting an tenacious athletically superior breed of fear inducing DBs foaming at the mouth to get a pick or go cannibal savage on your dome if your dumb enough to tryin’ catch pigskin without keeping your head up.
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch

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