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The Return of Leroy Hill

I don't feel confident enough in my analysis skills from two years ago to talk much about Leroy Hill. I didn't get fully immersed into Seahawks football, completely, really, hard-core, until the end of the '09 season, so I must lean on what I've read and heard about him. Basically, from this, I understand he is (was) a decent to very good weakside linebacker, depending on who you talk to. Some say he was overrated, some say he was our best linebacker when healthy. At his peak, sometime in '08, Lofa Tatupu famously called him the Seahawks best linebacker, and that was out of a group that included Pro Bowlers Tatupu and Julian Peterson

You obviously can't take what Lofa was saying about his teammate as 100% truth, as he is talking about his teammate, but as he put it, "He's got the right combination - he hits with tenacious power, he runs to the ball, he can blitz, he can cover."

"(With) a lot of stuff, Julian (Peterson) makes look easy. But for Leroy, it just IS easy. Anything. You go from coverage, blitzing, open-field tackling. He's that good."

If you would have thought otherwise?

"That's for people who don't know football."

Though Lofa's probably spitting hyperbole, I have to believe he wasn't lying completely. From what I remember, Hill WAS pretty good. He's had a few months years to get his body healthy after running into a string of injuries before running into a string of arrests, and now he's got a big ole' chip on his shoulder to prove he's still the man. This could lead to good things. 

Hill was on the Calabro show last week, and had some cool things to say. He started out by addressing the elephant in the room -- his troubles with the law: "It's been a crazy two years. You know, getting arrested, then getting franchise tagged, then dropping the tag and getting a big contract, then getting arrested again and losing the contract, and it's been a whirlwind. All that's behind me. I'm done with everything, like I said it's behind me and I'm moving forward. I have a new minimum contract, and this year, I just see it as probation, and (I'm ready) to get back to it. I'm just ready for football, really."

"It was a big wakeup call. Just sitting at home a lot, just thinking. Wanting to play football, I know what I want to do, what I was basically put on this earth to do. I love the game, I love everything about the game, and not being able to play the game was one of the toughest things in my life. I know what I love now and I would never do anything to jeopardize that again."

Hill sort of seems like a relic of the old days at times, especially with the roster turnover in the past year, but then you realize that he's only 28. He could still start for the Seahawks, and if he plays well and keeps his nose clean, he can theoretically contribute for a few years. The Hawks are getting younger, but you need a guy here and there that has some experience to lead your team. The Seahawks know this, and they offered Hill a one-year deal at the veteran minimum.

Per Hill, "They said we need you healthy, we need to make sure you're straight, and we need you back in your old spot."

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Is he ready?

"Just getting out on the field, I feel 100%. I'm ready to play, I can't wait until next week, when I can finally just play somebody else, other than my teammates. It's going to be like being a rookie all over again. I haven't started a game since the end of the 2009 season.

I got a chip so big on my shoulder I can barely carry it. I feel like a rookie again. I've been playing football straight for 18, 19 years. So to miss a whole year, it was one of the toughest things of my life.

I know my talents on the field, everyone knows my talents on the field. I didn't think i was going to have a problem just getting a job, but I do appreciate Seattle calling me, and I'm back and I do feel like it's a second chance. I'm going to take it like that."

Second chances are becoming a theme on the Seahawks roster -- Mike Williams and Leon Washington are the two success stories from last season but I feel like Leroy Hill could be this year's comeback kid. With the exit of Lofa Tatupu, David Hawthorne slides over to the middle linebacker spot. Without Hill manning the weakside, the Hawks would likely be relying on a hodgepodge of rookies or undrafted free agents to fill that role. Hill ostensibly gives you some breathing room. 

Whether he's a stop-gap for a year to get those rookies and UDFAs up to speed or a real part of this team going forward remains to be seen. He obviously has to make the roster first, but this could end up being one of the less glitzy but more important deals the Hawks' brass got done this offseason. 

Hill didn't have an overwhelmingly great first preseason game, but I'm not going to make any kind of judgement on a few plays by a guy that's been out of football for over a year. Danny O'Neil did a piece on Hill the other day as well and seems to think he'll be huge for the Hawks in 2011. He said:

"I was surprised when he was re-signed to a one-year deal, but after two weeks of practice, it's pretty clear this acquisition could turn out to be one of the best bargains of the entire NFL offseason. This is a linebacker who just two years ago was designated a franchise player, who is healthy and motivated to prove he still has a place in this league. Two years of off-field incidents and injuries have kind of overshadowed the reality that when he's healthy, he's a heck of a player."

Complicating the matter is the question of where Hill will play. I assumed it would be his "old spot," meaning weakside linebacker, but there's some thought he might move around. As Dukeshire and Thomas pointed out, Hill spent some time at the Sam linebacker spot against San Diego (with Curry at the WILL) and has some experience there in his career. This could just be shuffling in preseason, but could be, perhaps, a sign of things to come. It's something to watch. 

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3 Questions at Linebacker

Will Curry find the instincts to go with his raw ability?
Will Hawthorne be able to run the show in the middle?
Will Leroy play a full and productive season?

I am just glad that our offense shows signs of clock-eating potential. Our Defense as a whole could be exposed if it’s left on the field for 60-70% of the game.

by goatweed on Aug 17, 2011 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Hill's most visible weakness back then was TE coverage.

Used to be pretty bad at it, but I think it was 2007, he quietly had a pretty decent year in coverage. Since then the spiral has happened, and I have no idea what he’ll be good or poor at.

I sort of assume he’ll still be a good run game plugger, but have noticed his sound tackling had even suffered in 2009. With the news that Curry has been at Wil and Hill at Sam this training camp, I’ve been wondering whether his pass rush ability has remained. I know Carroll has liked to blitz from the Sam in the under front more than on the weak side. But golly, that, too, can’t even be certain of for this year. It sounds like we’re back to the Kiffin-inspired Carroll defense and have somewhat moved away from the Dan Quinn unbalanced line.

I suppose it’s a good thing that the personnel and scheme tendencies of Carroll continue to be uncertain and difficult to ascertain moving forward each year. It’s not easy for an inquisitive fan like me but I kind of hope it will continue each year.

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by jacobstevens on Aug 17, 2011 8:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah -- the schemes for this year will be very interesting to see.

If they evolve a lot, I sure wasted a lot of time on the 4-3 Under series. Haha.

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by Danny Kelly on Aug 17, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nevertheless we've all learned a lot about defensive fronts, I think.

For 2 years, really, with Mora/Bradley/Quinn trying the 4-3 Over and then last year, I kind of feel it’s rather commonplace for fans to know what 0-, 1-, 3-, 5 & 9-technique means, right off the top of their head, as well as the implications of 1- or 2-gap responsibilities for a lineman and what kind of size & physical talents as well as skills will be required in that role. At least for Seahawk fans. Or at least for the FG community.

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by jacobstevens on Aug 17, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah true- definitely has given fans a chance to see several schemes in the past few years.

I’d say it’s much more common for FG readers to be up on this stuff than for casual Seahawks fans in general, but that’s what makes the discussion here so great. Plus, it gives people that don’t know a chance to catch on. I mean, I find myself going “ohhh, I didn’t realize that” during threads. I like that.

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by Danny Kelly on Aug 17, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's almost impossible to find an LB that can do great in all aspects...

Let alone one that can do all competently.

I still have high hopes for him and Curry. He has so many strengths, and (when healthy) he makes a huge difference on the team. The legal troubles were frustrating, the injuries are much more frustrating to me.

by SGT Lenny on Aug 17, 2011 9:07 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

He always had that look. Didn't he?

If Leroy is healthy ,he’s borderline pro-bowl . That’s why the 6 yr. 36 mil. contract in’09. And t it going away had nothing to do with anything on-field .

by Richard fg7 on Aug 17, 2011 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I like Hill a lot.

But, if for some reason it doesn’t work out for him, perhaps he can become one of these:
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In other news: Hill has a HUGE dome.

2011: Building the Trenches.

by Misfit74 on Aug 17, 2011 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

for MMA fans...

He has some Kimbo Slice qualities. Maybe his calling is as a street fighter/porn bodyguard/failed cage fighter. Kimbo played only college ball so maybe he would do better in MMA.

by SGT Lenny on Aug 17, 2011 10:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow.

The caption is classic.

2011: Building the Trenches.

by Misfit74 on Aug 17, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he had dreads

he’d be about the 8th guy nicknamed “Predator” by the fans.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 17, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bet he was miserable sitting at home watching, he doesn't seem like the couch-potato type

Not to mention, Pro athletes make their money by playing the games. You take the chance to play away from them, it hits them where it hurts the most.

by Moose Knuckles on Aug 17, 2011 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm not going to lie

I locked my doors , shut my windows and turned down my gangster rap after seeing this picture.

I don't have a gun, but if I did, I would shoot a baby deer in the mouth and feel nothing. Louis CK

by Lo Pann on Aug 17, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

What for Michael Bolton?

Take another look at the photo and you’ll see he’s actually a double-amputee.

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by jacobstevens on Aug 17, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, awesome.

I am ambivalent about Kelly Jennings.

by scorpiknox on Aug 17, 2011 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Argh, reply fail.

This was supposed to be in response to the sweet Office Space reference.

I am ambivalent about Kelly Jennings.

by scorpiknox on Aug 17, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is a lot to prove

I’m excited to see if Hill and Curry can put it all together… if they do we will be a force at the LB position.

Yes I have a beer in my hand... and I'm ready to watch the Hawks smash the 49ers in week 1.

by HawksFever on Aug 17, 2011 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm surprised the hawks

let him use his mug shot for team photos.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Aug 17, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm stoked that Hill is ready to get back to what he does best.

Leading with his big bald head, while trying to kill the man holding the ball. My two favorite memories of him involve 3 concussions. Ike Hilliard and Lofa getting knocked out and when he stood up Barber at the goal line and bounced right back up like he didnt hurt himself. Guy is a warrior.

by Andrew E on Aug 17, 2011 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

WAR!

I think I know enough of hate/ To say that for destruction Rice/ Is also great/ And would suffice.

by shams on Aug 17, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good writeup and signee

I really believe for this guy. It took him awhile but it seems like he matured. Good for him. I am expecting 8 plus sacks on his part this year.

by genax on Aug 17, 2011 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

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