Seahawks Free Agency Open Thread 8/2/11
by Danny Kelly on Aug 2, 2011 11:18 AM PDT
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PrintA couple updates:
--Former Rams FB Mike Karney is reportedly set to visit Seattle, per the St Louis Post-Dispatch. Karney is 5'11, 260, 30 years old, and is a two-time Pro-Bowler (2006, 2007). He was second team All-Pro in 2006. This move would make sense, --he would be much cheaper than Vonta Leach but still has the veteran wiles and blocking skill they're looking for. He's a big human.
--Per eGriz.com and a good find by Seahawk_Talk, UDFA RB Chase Reynolds out of Montana has signed a free-agent contract with the Seahawks. Reynolds is 6'0, 195, and had a prolific career at Montana, as he ended up three measly yards short of being their all time rusher. I haven't seen official confirmation of this from the team, but here is a bit of background on Reynolds, again tip of the cap to Adam Wright of Seahawk_Talk.
--Per SuperSchefter, veteran K Jeff Reed is in town to work out for the Seahawks. He had previously been with the Steelers for years and 49ers last season. If you google image search his name, you get a visual representation and confirmation of the rumors that he's a weird dude. Then again, Brian Wilson is a weird dude, and he does well on the field. So I'll withhold judgement.
--I'll be at Training Camp for the next few hours. Follow me on Twitter for some live updates.
Talk, discuss, converse, have fun with it. Open thread time.
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After Zach Miller, all names are consolation prizes.
I think I know enough of hate/ To say that for destruction Rice/ Is also great/ And would suffice.
I predicted this morning that Zach MIller will re-sign with Oakland.
Now it’s looking like that’ll happen, according to some rumors.
Al Davis is a freaking nut job – he’ll overpay if he has to.
Always up for some Twitter action @nandron. I only talk NW sports, though.
It's kind of a bummer. Zach feels like the girl that used you to make her ex boyfriend jealous and then get back together with him.
Proactive-like-Nonstop
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by Danny Kelly on Aug 2, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Once they moved to clear cap space the writing was on the wall. The visit was a smart move by Miller either way.
by lemonverbena on Aug 2, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Nobody wants a bidding war with Al Davis.
This sucks.
I think I know enough of hate/ To say that for destruction Rice/ Is also great/ And would suffice.
Yep. Al Davis will always win, even to the detriment of his own team.
Bummer.
Always up for some Twitter action @nandron. I only talk NW sports, though.
Clayton tweeter this morning that the raiders are still 17 mill over the cap
I’m sure they can get that down but the hawks should have a lot more flexibility to get it done, unless miller never wanted to be here
by Dialectic on Aug 2, 2011 11:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
With Gallery and Cable here, I would think or would like to think, he had a visit in completely good faith.
It’s easy to forget that these guys are moving their whole life around and it’s a big decision either way.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Nobody wants a land war with Asia.
These things happen.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Ukraine makes keeping Europe so impossible...
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
I thought Al Davis was dead.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Technically,
he is.
Beast Mode, fo' real.
by Lucas Cervi on Aug 2, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this miller business
Is going to give me an ulcer. Im going to take a nap and when I wake up miller better have made up his mind.
Offseason 2011: The purge of Ruskell's Boy Scouts continues.
by Wayward Llama on Aug 2, 2011 11:23 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Give up on it
It’ll be a pleasant surprise then.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 2, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Has anyone heard anything about Aubrayo Franklin
Apparently Pete Carroll doesn’t like how Charlie Whitehurst holds a clipboard
Surprising there isn't more interest.
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Kentwood Highschool Alumni
Dude would lift cars int he parking lot at school. He was indeed a crazy large human.
I know Olin Kruetz is bitter right now, but anybody want the Seahawks to put a call into his agent?
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That's why I put the "bitter right now" part. Who knows what will happen once he clears his head from this mess.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I know people dont like Unger much
But Unger actually has upside. Kruetz is going nowhere but down.
I understand he was a Husky and all that but Pete Carrol isnt a husky homer.
Kruetz is not going to be signed.
by The Great Googly on Aug 2, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking less about whether or not Pete cares that he's a former Husky, and more on the fact that this line could use a veteran.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure, that guy too. :)
But 2/5ths of the projected starters are rookies, a 2nd year player, and a 3rd year player who has struggled. Maybe not Kruetz, but I wouldn’t be upset to see us get another vet, especially at center.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
No
Spencer would have been the ‘veteran’. These guys are all professionals, not children. Coaching and a player that knows the system is better than a player Bears fans treat like we do about Tats or Hass.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 2, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what Kruetz being a fan favorite in Chicago has to do with anything.
I don’t see what non-value there is in getting a little more experience on the offensive line.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Not fan favorite
That he was washed up and it was time for him to go. They’re far more excited about having Spencer than Kreutz, they think “average” (our opinion of him) was at least an improvement. Kreutz being a big name with a long career does not make him an asset
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 2, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I like it
Idiots who can’t get over the fact he’s an ex-Steeler can go plank in traffic.
"Out of bounds you stupid guy!"
by Modrik Zutar on Aug 2, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ew douche chills
seriously do not want this guy. don’t really see him getting along with pete carroll anyway. do we really want a guy who attacks a vending machine days after winning the superbowl?
Did the machine deserve it?
If so, I’ve got no problem with it.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
I don't want my kicker tearing apart the chemistry of this team!!!!!
He can ruin everything!
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 2, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
QuadZilla Is Your Man Then
Only flakier kicker I can remember in the last few years was Sauerbraun, or the guy who cut himself with an hatchet with the Jaguars.
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I've always been a fan.
Especially that year his NFL promo photo was with that crazy troll hair. They even used it on Madden (09)
Beast Mode, fo' real.
Rotoworld has us letting Konz go
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/transactions/nfl/all/today/
Haven’t seen it anywhere else and didn’t he play on defense yesterday?
It's an error by rotoworld
That’s from last year.
Nope
Got on a plane back to Oakland at 2am and Bob Papa (Raiders radio guy) saying Miller will be a Raider. We’ll see
"Out of bounds you stupid guy!"
by Modrik Zutar on Aug 2, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Chase Reynolds
I know he is a small school guy, but I know him personally. He is tough as nails. Not sure if he has what it takes to make the squad but im glad to see a Montana boy on the team.
I don't think he's got much of a shot of making the team,
but I’m really excited to watch him play. Like you said, tough as nails and goes all out. If nothing else, he’s a great guy to have in camp- high effort, high intensity, great attitude.
He was over 200lb for his pro day, wonder if he’s bulked up anymore?
Hoping he fits somewhere
As a fellow Montana alumnus, I’d like to see him earn a spot on the team or practice squad
Well, if Miller doesn't sign,
hopefully this serves as a big kick in the ass for Carlson.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
As the worm turns:
Raiders_Nation RAIDER_NATION
Greg Papa says his Zach Miller statement was just his opinion based on the Kamerion Wimbley signing.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
So...
if reports are correct about their cap situation, this is idle, poorly researched speculation.
awesome.
Beast Mode, fo' real.
It was like Hugh Millen saying Hass would be back on the radio.
But if he’d chosen the hawks we’d have known by now.
I think the raiders are trying to figure out just how much cap space they have and haven’t yet made the offer.
At which point he’ll decide or let us counter offer.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
maybe
hes jus flying back to oakland to get his stuff.
by Bruiser89171 on Aug 2, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And yet the Raiders fans are going apeshit about it as if Miller signing with the Raiders can be taken to the bank. "We told you Seachickens!"
I’ll reserve judgement until I see what happens.
Miller would be kind of a luxury anyway.
I think most people here are okay with going into the season with the tight ends we have, which includes a veteran and some youngsters with upside. It’s always worth a try to get the top free agent at the position, or any position, if you can; but, as others have said, not worth getting into a bidding war with Al Davis under the circumstances. I suspect a lot of people are less excited about the immediate upgrade than about the rosterbation possibilities resulting from Carlson becoming expendable.
by Suburban Shocker on Aug 2, 2011 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Which TE on our roster is our best run-blocker?
I’m excited about Miller because if Carroll and Cable want to go smash-mouth football, his biggest asset would be his excellent run-blocking. He’s a far-and-away upgrade over any of the other TEs on our roster in that regard, correct?
McCoy.
Maybe it’s better to have a one-size-fits-all kind of player like Miller, but the ability is there to put in varying packages.
by Suburban Shocker on Aug 2, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd actually be more excited about the upgrade than the returns that trading Carlson could bring.
I don’t think we can really get anything better than a 5th rounder for Carlson
Right
but if we got Miller, would you not take a fifth for Carlson? I would.
by Hawkhammer19 on Aug 2, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I would IF and only IF we got Miller
Dunno if we’d get one though
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, if yesterday's comments are any sort of evidence, there is a lot of people excited about the possibility of Miller coming here.
We also don’t know for sure if Carlson would be traded following a Miller signing. He barely makes any money and we run two TE sets so they may hold on to him in that situation.
its his contract yr
they might want to trade him to get somethin than for just a yr of services
Didn't Morrah eventually outplay Carlson last year?
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really
Morrah didn’t play very much.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
I guess I was thinking that because...
Carlson had 4 receptions for 31 yards in the playoffs, Morrah had 4 receptions for 64 yards in the playoffs
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Only feel bad for BOB
it was gonna happen before the AM, he was gonna sign to the seahawks,,,now what bob?…now what?..haha
I hate Jeff Reed
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:08 PM PDT reply actions
yeah I'm not going to lie I don't want him on this team.
sorry if it’s too big. Not sure what dimensions are acceptable.
by jyellow865 on Aug 2, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude looks like Alan "Kwee-Wee" Funk
For any closeted wrestling fans that were watching WCW back in the late ’90s.
Looks like he was doing pretty well in the boob contest.
The poor girl didn’t stand a chance.
How's that working out for you... being clever? - Tyler Durden
I'm sure he'll stop in at Cowgirls Inc before he leaves
maybe strip on the bar even.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
What a giant douchebag.
I think I know enough of hate/ To say that for destruction Rice/ Is also great/ And would suffice.
And apparently dates women who can eat shot glasses whole.
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by YoSoyMacho on Aug 2, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i swear there used to be even worse pictures of him on drunkathlete.com
but i could only find this one and one other today. i seem to remember a horrifying bathroom mirror cellphone selfpic unfortunately.
I think Pauly D ate the Situation.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I wish like hell I could unsee this
I previously posted as "Man From Nantucket"
by mem on Aug 2, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes you can
Her name is Mari Jane, and she’s easy to get.
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by S_o_Smith on Aug 2, 2011 1:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No, I laughed
Love that show.
For my entire life, our emerald city was set in the finest gold ring, upon a royal purple standard of excellence. The best will stumble, but the elite will always rise again.
This one ought to be a caption contest.
“Middle-aged man desparately seeks treatment for overgrown nipple. Resorts to “hide it with a shot glass” therapy."
How's that working out for you... being clever? - Tyler Durden
What a goofy looking body.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
if PC signs this tool
i will just die.
Smashmouth is the new sexy!
If we lose out on Miller, why not go after Kevin Boss?
he plays great in cold weather, can take a hit, and blocks well.
Giants aren't looking to trade him?
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Speculation on my part
I think the interest in Miller is the fact he’s a top 5 TE, whereas Boss and Carlson are similiar. I don’t think we’re specifically looking to upgrade the TE position but if we can land a top 5 TE who is only 25 for a relatively reasonable price that would be awesome.
"Out of bounds you stupid guy!"
by Modrik Zutar on Aug 2, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
TE isn’t even a major need but if we could upgrade to an elite player at the position then why not
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say Boss/Carlson are necessarily similar
Boss is far more brash and even if doesn’t catch a ball he blocks the hell for ya.
I think he’d a nice tough side to compliment carlson who can just focus on recieving
I only meant similar in terms of caliber, where they rank among other TE's in the league
as opposed to Miller who’s clearly in the top 5, arguably top 3
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by Modrik Zutar on Aug 2, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
California loves their TEs
Gates, Davis, Miller
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll take Boss over Carlson
somehow if we could get trade carlson for boss and get zach drooling
Agreed. I also think Boss and Carlson are far too similar to make that move whereas Miller and Carlson are completely different players.
Miller is also considered elite and the position and was just sitting there on the free agent market until Zombie Al got note of the Seahawks interest and finally woke up.
No Reed, plz and thank you
dude looks like he wants to rave or something. I hope we bring Babs back, and F*** the Huskies. Kreutz over Unger? maybe if this was 10 years ago when Unger was a teenager.
he’s a stud, we let Spencer go(fml) because Pete knows who Max is, and after this season yall will appreciate him too. I like how we are getting a line in place.
by TwelthMan on Aug 2, 2011 12:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Oh god oh god oh god.
Please delete your account or request a name change.
Thanks.
by SgtSasquatch on Aug 2, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
"Twelfth" in case you were interested.
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Something smells of roast duck
Cooking in Chip Kelly’s shoes. I really hope we keep the Auburn kicker, he’s a clutch kicking winner with a championship ring.
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by S_o_Smith on Aug 2, 2011 12:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm a duck fan...
Auburn’s kicker isn’t exactly clutch but that’s not important I could care less what college someone went to to figure out who should be drafted by the Seahawks (Locker). Best player you can get at any position.
If this Auburn kid is the best we have I’m not worried about it. If we would have drafted Locker and all the Fieldgull hype I wouldn’t change teams.
by SGT Lenny on Aug 2, 2011 2:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Julio the real deal?
Tony Gonzalez
This kid Julio Jones is the real deal. He’s the best incoming receiver I’ve ever played with. Come to think of it, it’s not even close.
haha fair.
but I’ve been hearing a lot of praise about him. Mike Mayock had some pretty nice things to say about him too.
He was my favorite WR to watch in college last year (Marquess Wilson not included, Go Cougs)
The guy, from what I saw, just made plays. When the Tide absolutely needed to go down the field, I just knew what was coming. “Catch by Julio Jones”, “There’s Julio Jones again.” “Back to Julio Jones”
Him and Roddy and Tony Gonzalez are why I think Ryan could step up into Drew Brees territory.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
same thing in Oregon with Keff Maehl
Except that has a ton to do with the system and LaMichael James and Barner out of the backfield. Run a spread offense, get the D leaning forward and toss one over the top or on a deep slant route and watch Maehl. Jones was by far the best I saw on Saturdays, and the kid from BSU.
by SGT Lenny on Aug 2, 2011 2:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
His name is David Paulsen
Have a lot of friends that went to school with the Oregon TE. Apparently he is the HUMBLEST person you’d ever met. Never heard someone described as humble so many times.
Marquess Wilson and Kristoff Williams have the chance to make a hell of a lot of big plays next year. With Karstetter as a solid possession receiver holding down the middle and hopefully Gino Simone can finally put it together, the Cougs could have a very interesting 4 WR set.
I don’t think people realize how potentially prolific the Tuel passing attack might be this season. Going to be very fun to watch, even if the D still allows 87.6pts a game.
Yeah, just the fact of how awful the Cougs have been and still are in so many areas, overshadows the fact that QB and WR groups could be excellent.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd imagine Tuel would be even better if a snap ever hit him in the chest
Every game I watched last year, the shotgun snap was rarely higher than his knees. Kid was constantly having to take his eyes down to find the snap before he could scan the field.
Come on don't compare Jeff Reed to Brian Wilson!
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
Brian Russell?
"SCANNING DEFENSES... EXPLOITING!"
by PastaMaker on Aug 2, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Read the 3rd bullet of this thread (about Jeff Reed)
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh christ, damn you sir.
I had spent a year without thinking about this man. You’ve ruined 2011 for me.
Jeff Reed is worse
I like angry mean beards more than electric haired e poppers
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Reed is bad.
But no one annoys me more than attention whoring, spandex tuxedo wearing, douches.
Quadzilla!!!
Too bad his brain is as small as an Ostrich.
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At least he's elite at his position
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
What I don't understand is...
why every moron on Twitter needs to RT Schefty. The guy has 800,000 followers. Your 30 don’t matter.
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Jeff Reed hasn't been any good for a while now
Also I think he was one of the pioneers for taking a picture of his dick.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
I'm talking about current players
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
in the NBA its Greg Oden
He is probably older than Favre, although his birth certificate probably disagrees with me.
by SGT Lenny on Aug 2, 2011 2:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Rodman took so many polaroids of his shlong
that they are essentially worthless. Not even any comedic value!
I was wondering if this was true, and I can only go by what the stats say, since for whatever reason I haven't followed Jeff Reeds career with a fine-toothed comb..
but from what I see he got released after 9 games last year because he missed 6 field goals over 40 yards? He also made 2 over 50 and was 9 of 10 in San Francisco including 3 of 3 from over 40. Seems like a good option to me. He was ~90% in the previous 3 seasons.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Aweful
His most in a season was 10.
Olindo Mare probably averages 20 a season
by B.B.Finnegan on Aug 2, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If we sign him we need to administer a drug test every couple days
Reed was released on November 16, 2010, two days after missing a 26-yard field goal.
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do we care what anyone looks like or does? Former Steeler, almost 40, and really got bad fast... no thanks rather have Coutu
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know why I thought he was almost 40... haha, he's 32
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He's 22 years past the age of 10
He’s nearly 40.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
Yeah, this is not the veteran I was hoping for so in that case I'd rather go with Coutu or Byrum.
I’m with you though, I’m not going to judge Reed by how he acts or the fact that he was a Steeler in SB XL but rather what he could or could not bring to the team. I don’t think he makes it anyways so people should just relax.
If a guy was elite, I'd have a hard time making fun of him for acting different
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you play CB?
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
He tore his ACL again.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
not sure if this is news but just read this on twitter, thought it was cool...
PeteCarroll Pete Carroll
@nate_robinson well then, see you at practice at 1:30. bring your cleats.
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
Atleast give him his 5'7/5'8. I'm sure they said the same thing about him ever dunking let alone making an NBA roster.
Besides, I was kidding anyways. Relax.
thats what i repeated to myself when he won the slam dunk comp twice!
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
I guess the good news is
that if a pass bounced of BMW’s helmet he’d be the smart money to get the rebound.
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i hear that too an extent if there was EVER...
an exception to the rule it would be Nate Robinson.
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
by IMIN4LIFE on Aug 2, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was able to stuff a shot by Yao Ming
He might be short but he can jump like there is no tomorrow.
by wadswerth on Aug 2, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And he can hit, trust me
He’s laid me out in a couple of Robinson/Stinson family football games over the years.
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I personally would love to see him in the hawks camp for a tryout
He is one of my favorite basketball players.
Put him up against BMW
Then take pictures
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Vikings cut Bryant Mckinne
according to Adam Schefter
Basically no news
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Too Bad It wasn't 2009 McKinnie Released.
That version was pretty good. This years? Meh.
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Oh crap
I’d rather he join the Chargers or something.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
damn i live in dallas
i dont wanna see tats in skins uniform 6-8 times this season smh
I actually wasted ten seconds of my life trying to parse that.
Seriously, Aman, this is Field Gulls, not “the internet”.
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by shams on Aug 2, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't have a problem with most chatspeak, and use some of it myself, especially in texting.
But the “smh” is one that will always escape me. I hate it as much as I hate the word “prolly”.
by Matt Erickson on Aug 2, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
SMH at these codgers
:-P
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I just want him to be happy.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
.....And let it happen after August 11th.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
Mike Florio just deleted my comment about the Zach Miller speculation.
All I said was, “This isn’t a substantial report but rather a speculative opinon by an Oakland based radio host. He even admitted as much on his show today. Why don’t we wait for something more concrete about the team Miller lands with before passing judgment?”
I guess he took it personally when all I was trying to do was explain why either side shouldn’t be getting too excited (or disappointed) until we know all the details.
by StealthHawk on Aug 2, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I like John and Cameron tho...
Miller is dope but is he really necessary?
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If you watch the Raiders
they didn’t ever put a TE on the field that was a blocking liability. It was Miller (who’s very good, and very technical, but not a physically dominant blocker) and then a bunch of pure blocking types. They also used multiple TE sets often. Cable’s not messing around when it comes to improving the running game.
Wow that's ridiculous.
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Incarcerated Bob ladies and gentlemen.
From the gang green forum:
GOD am I sorry I missed this…1st off he says he was incarcerated for 9 months in upstate NY for beating up a Patriots fan at the Superbowl against the Giants..Why would he do time in NY for an assault in AZ? WOULDN’T HAPPEN..
Check this out he is an actor just trying to get radio or tv work
google – Bob Raynaldy Cheung Incarcerated bob
I know I have spent too much time on this asshole but Im so tired of him on WFAN and TWITTER, thinking he broke a story etc.
On his twitter page he has a pic of big black guy in prison, he is a 25 y/o Asian guy
story: http://www.livescoressoccer9.com/01/incarcerated-bob-celebrating-new-year-in-jail-2.html
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Seriously
my jaw hit the floor when i saw this…but that was before i started laughing…hes an asian whos posing as a bad a** black guy?…too funny..
Maybe that was his cell mate.
he does look a bit paralyzed in fear here.
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yah
and i wouldnt doubt if the guy he “beat up” was actually a kid…this guy doesnt look like he can handle himself..but hey ive been fooled before..haha
i thought it was susgu abd Asian looking women
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by susgu abd i neab sushi and.
Got a little excited I suppose
by SGT Lenny on Aug 2, 2011 2:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I've heard him talk before
Does NOT sound like a mid-size Asian dude.
I hope the Cardinals don't get Braylon Edwards
They’ve had a better off-season than we are giving them credit for.
Kolb is a huge upgrade
Heap is a decent upgrade
Bradley is a decent upgrade
Edwards would be an upgrade over Breaston
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions
Not to mention their draft
Patrick Peterson
Ryan Williams
Sam Acho (others.)
They should be a lot better, even without Hightower
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Nobody knows what they have in Kolb. He's practically as much of an unknown at this point that Whitehurst was when we traded for him last year.
Yeah he’s started some games but his stats are nothing special and he beat bad teams while losing to good ones. It’s not going out on much of a limb to say he’ll outperform Anderson, Skelton, and Hall but I wouldn’t say he’s a huge upgrade when we simply don’t know.
I don't want to get into the Kolb/Whitehurst thing again. Funny, this is the first time I'm realizing Thomas isn't here today.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It hasn't rained yet this week
to help people get the gloom out. This many days of sunshine in a row is weird…
For my entire life, our emerald city was set in the finest gold ring, upon a royal purple standard of excellence. The best will stumble, but the elite will always rise again.
I like it when people say "relax" when I'm already completely relaxed.
It does the exact opposite of relaxing someone.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not unlike us.
Kolb is a hugely expensive Tavaris Jackson, complete with an upgraded supporting cast. In that sense our teams are similar.
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Saw a Yahoo article that rated the Eagles as having the best free agency, the Cardinals 2nd best and the Seahawks 3rd
Eagles just nabbed Ronnie Brown probably to replace Jerome Harrison
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to give the Cardinals the benefit of the doubt
We signed Whitehurst to a 2 year $8M total deal…
They signed Kolb to a $60M+ deal… He was a former 2nd round pick who studied under Andy Reid…
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
...who has performed as well as Derek Anderson has so far in his career (albeit with less PT).
Otherwise, signing an iffy player to a large contract doesn’t make him a good player, it makes him an iffy player with a large contract.
Daryn Colledge might be an upgrade but yes I agree with this
Really surprised that they haven’t put anything towards the line yet but they may look at …
Jared Gaither – OT
Ryan Harris – OT
Sean Locklear – OT
Mike Brisiel – OG
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
If they got Locklear I'd laugh and laugh.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 2, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Many believe he was the best available RT in FA
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes it is a benefit that Seattle is ignored by most media
I think it will be just fine if we see him twice each year. People must be assuming that because he was a starter that he has some value, they clearly were not watching.
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He was the worst starter on the Hawks last year.
I don’t care what “many” say, they probably didn’t watch any Hawks games.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 2, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree on the first three
Not so much on the last… Breaston is a pretty solid WR, 2 years removed from a 1000 yard season when he stepped in for Anquan Boldin and the Cards offense didn’t blink.
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by crushedoptimist on Aug 2, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Must be killing Braylon
that he got passed up for a Buckeye in NY.
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cards won't do squat this yr
kolb is unproven and has WEEKS to prepare for the season. No way they’ll do work this yr
O/T: Niners lose Aubrayo Franklin to Saints
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by shams on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Nice... 9ers are donezo
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Teardown
They’re letting all the expensive defensive guys walk. I wonder if they end up switching to a more traditional 4-3.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 2, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Link.
Adam Schefter
Filed to ESPN: New Orleans pulled off free-agent upset, reaching agreement with former 49ers DT Aubrayo Franklin on a one-year deal.
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But only a one-year deal. Hmm. Clearly I overvalued him.
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Clearly you've forgotten that they re-signed Alex Smith.
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by shams on Aug 2, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope that wine at Candlestick is extra "aromatic"
because the cheese won’t be the only crotch smell in the stadium… GAWD I hate the dirty whiners. If only I could find a way to hate them more than the Radiers.
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by YoSoyMacho on Aug 2, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why would they try to win?
Luck clearly wants to stay in Cali.
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How many games do you think the teams in our division will win this year based on their current rosters?
I don’t think our division is as bad as the National media thinks. Both the Seahawks and Cardinals made huge upgrades this off-season.
Seahawks – 7
Cardinals – 7
49ers – 5
Rams – 8
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions
One team will probably sneak away with 9 wins based on our division
I’d guess the Rams at this point.
One team is going to be pretty darn awful, with the tough schedule we all have. Could be any of them, really.
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by crushedoptimist on Aug 2, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
We could show tons of improvement
and end up with 4 wins
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by crushedoptimist on Aug 2, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
true, that
man, it’s a freaking gauntlet. everytime there’s a ‘break’ with a projectedly easy team we get raped the week after.
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
What have the Niners done via the draft or free agency to make you say that?
“Brutal” schedule or not, we were a 7 win team last year and our team appears to have gotten better while the 49ers have done virtually nothing to improve.
9ers play the same schedule as us
I wouldn’t “switch” with them. I’d probably equate with them, I think we have similar talent levels
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 2, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess
STL – 9
SEA – 8
ARZ – 6
SF – 4
by HawkSocks on Aug 2, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fixed it for you
SEA – 16
STL – 9
ARZ – 6
SF – 4
by Kingdomer on Aug 2, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
oh yes
much better
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
With another adjustment:
SEA – 19 (beating Stealers 68-0 in Super Bowl, accompanied by 15,000 hours of media coverage about how much better shittsburg is than those South Alaska latte swilling nobodies)
STL – 4
ARZ – 3
SF – 0 (and the Raiders win 1, against SF, who I hate just slightly more because they’re in our division).
by bleedshawkblue on Aug 2, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
People can speculate, I could speculate, but ugh, it's so tough when we STILL have so much player movement.
For instance, my guess might be different if we had Zach Miller. Players are still getting cut. Even as of today, lots of positions up for grabs. I definitely have higher hopes for the Hawks than I did a week ago. If the offensive line is healthy, I think we could be in really good shape and maybe get to 9 wins if Pete keeps impressing us with diamonds in the rough.
The Niners are obviously in bad shape right now but in this division could they win 6 games? They still have some good players, and new head coaches are always a wild card.
The Rams have the divisions best defense perhaps? And best RB and maybe best QB. They could be slated in that 8-9 win range.
The Cards have made some big upgrades, but this is still upgrades on a team that was completely terrible last season. 7-8 wins.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 Although missing pieces at this point aren't going to be filled with upgrades in most cases.
So you have to count those as gaps (like MLB for us).
but if I were forced to bet today, I say 7, max 8.
@SF – tossup
@Pit – L
Ari – W
Atl – L
@NYG – L
@CLE – W
CIN – W
@DAL – L
BAL – L
@STL – L
WAS – W
PHI – L
STL – W
@CHI – W
SF – W
@ARI – W
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I have given up on marking W's and L's on the calender. In that little 16 game schedule of the NFL, so much changes week to week, and there are so many upsets.
I mean, we played the AFC West last year thinking “Thank god!” preseason, and that didn’t work out at all like we planned it.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If we won out like that...
the hype for next season would be wild.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 2, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
we'd play ourselves right into a bad 1st round spot again.
But I still prefer winning games to winning draft position. Seems very possible, but it is a fool’s errand to predict.
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As bad as our schedule allegedly is,
the back half is not bad at all except for Philadelphia. the last 4 are clearly winnable. but as folks are right to say, we could lose many of those we think we ought to win. we’re too young and unstable to really know. (Guessing is fun though.)
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Road game in December at Soldier Field is not easy
And we’ve been terrible for so long in Arizona that I’ll never pencil that one in as a sure win
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by crushedoptimist on Aug 2, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Very true.
We did beat them last year, and they are still terrible for the most part.
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Guessing is fun.
I’m going to guess that Philly comes to Seattle with Vick on the IL and Bad Bones reads every pass VY tries to make.
Beast Mode, fo' real.
yeah well look at the schedule
we get all of the NFC elites this year. ugh
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus the redskins.
Elites, plus redskins. One of these things is not like the o-ther…
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Of course, we do miss the Packers
Funny, the Rams lose to us and get to play them.
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by crushedoptimist on Aug 2, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh. You'd think the SB champs would automatically go in the "first place schedule" bin.
I won’t complain, though.
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oops
most, then
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Not only is there a lot of movement still but each team has a huge range of potential with the guys they already have.
If Kolb turns out to be worth what they spent on him and the offensive line holds together they could be a decent 8 or 9 win team. If all of the Rams’ talent come together on the offensive line and in their front seven with Bradford taking the next step they could be a 10+ win team. If the Seahawks offensive line stays healthy, the rookies on the right side max out and Tarvaris builds off his 08 season the Hawks could push 10 wins. Or none of it could happen and we’ll see another 7-9 division winner.
Basically the only team that doesn’t look to have much of a shot is San Francisco.
BUT ALEX SMITH
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by crushedoptimist on Aug 2, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It would actually make sense that this is the year he finally breaks out.
Since it’s the first year no one is predicting it.
There, you just predicted it.
Now we don’t have to worry.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
"my guess might be different if we had Zach Miller"
Seahawks, 16-0.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
7, 8, 9 wins for the hawks!?
are you serious? I mean I love our offseason moves but I think we have to be a little more realistic. Were dealing with some pretty shitty QBs with a rookie line and big FAs that have barely played together. I think we are moving in the right direction but no way 7 wins. Probably closer to 5.
it's most about the teams we're playing with the players we have rather than solely about the players
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Play the Niners twice, play the Cardinals twice, play the Rams twice.
6 games against divisional opponents, in this division, and I think every team has a good chance of being close to 5.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
7 is not out of reach
If we go 4-2 in our division (feasible), we play tough teams in the AFC North and NFC East, but we could sneak by the Skins, Bengals, Browns. Who knows, really.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 2, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, we play some tough teams but at home.
ATL, BAL, and PHI are great teams, but it’s hard to win in the CLink.
what a horrible name
CLink.
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
s’all over the radio and whatnot. guess that’s what we have to call it now
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
"Qwest" seemed weird at first too.
How about “Zach Miller’s Palais du Asskicking”?
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Everything's goofy at first
It used to be Seahawks Stadium, it’s really not that big of a deal. I don’t think Steelers fans mind going to a ketchup bottle if there’s a good product on the green field.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 2, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Like vaginas for instance.
What? You were thinking it too.
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yeah but it's like clink
not see-link, clink. like a comic book sound effect.
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking prison.
But comic book sound effect, or wine glasses works, too.
Bite the wax tadpole.
Are they moving the clink to woodinville?
Don't force the quarterback situation. No Kevin Kolb!
Wow. This feels surprisingly accurate in my mind.
Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!
Clayton just tweeted that we got Miller
no deets yet
YES!!! FUCK YES!
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Well, I'm getting a new jersey
Great player for my college and pro teams? That’s an insta-buy! This almost makes up for not getting to buy my James Harden Sonics jersey.
Wow. I hope this emotional rollercoaster is over.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Schefter
ESPN’s John Clayton and Mike Sando are reporting former Raiders TE Zach Miller has reached an agreement with the Seahawks.
outta nowhere
cool
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
BONER!
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It's Miller time!
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions
Guess I've got
a new game day beverage of choice.
by Hawkaholic12 on Aug 2, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can get a sponsorhip agreement with Miller if you want to live the high life.
I have one. Am a proud member.
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TURN THOSE MOTHERFUCKIN FROWNS UPSIDE DOWN, BOYS
We got us a Zach Miller!! Woo hoo!
Offseason 2011: The purge of Ruskell's Boy Scouts continues.
by Wayward Llama on Aug 2, 2011 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How do Seahawks fans rank these free agent signings?
Zach Miller
Robert Gallery
Sidney Rice
Other?
Which is the best move for the team?
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Heck, throw Brandon Mebane on there too.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Importance
1. Mebane
Gallery
Rice
Branch
TJax
Miller
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 2, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Mebane will make the biggest impact.
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Seahawks are still $20 million under cap?
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A niner fan:
DHawawini Danny Hawawini
Thank god the #49ers are losing their D, because now we get to face Todd Heap and Zach Miller coming down the middle in our division.
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by hazbro24 on Aug 2, 2011 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
chuckle
so true
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Raider fans on twitter
are declaring the season over.
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wonder what al davis is doing
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Trying to purchase a silver and black DeLorean
That way he can go back in time and try and get more owners to veto the CBA
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't wait to visit Silver and Black Pride.
Fuckin’ illiterate goons must be eating their own.
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by shams on Aug 2, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm already there...
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If they're bad now
I wonder how they’ll be if the Asante Samuel for Patrick Willis rumors pick up.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
So, I'm assuming we dont' hold onto Carlson + Miller...
What’s reasonable to expect for Carlson? He may have some Value to TEN, which has yet to re-sign Bo Scaife last I checked, or to Holmgren over in CLE. A 5th? A 4th is probably too high?
How quickly the page turned on Carlson.
I remember when he was our bright spot and that was only a year ago!
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
We still like Carlson!
Honestly.
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Here's what I tell the New York Giants (a bit of rosterbation):
“We’ll give you Carlson, Obamanu and a 5th rounder for Osi. Take it or leave it.”
The Giants won’t take it now, but if Osi continues to hold out…..
Don't be tradin' Obo! He's still rising.
But yes, how quickly we turn on Carlson. Great blocker, great route runner, but it hardly matters how well you run the route if you drop the ball.
As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
by Bisquick McBob on Aug 3, 2011 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
There was an article on this site
citing how Carlson’s drops were on par with his percentage of drops in previous seasons, actually. And his blocking could hardly be called “great”, see: Filling in for MRob at FB.
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Great... here come the Raider fans to the CLINK to start more fights
I’m sure all the dirtbag “raider nation” is ablaze now. Fists will be flying during our preseason matchup. I hope they bring the metal detectors out for that game. Man I hate the Raiders. I LOVE this.
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Really Really Really interested in the terms of this deal...
Imagine if some how Carson Palmer found a way to Seattle…
I just posted that I thought we’d win 7 games this year.
Add Zach Miller and Carson Palmer and I’d say 9, Miller alone adds .5 games in my opinion
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions
Will people stop bringing up Carson Palmer
It’s not gonna happen
People un-retire all the time.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
What if he's waiting until they sign guys...
So that him un-retiring puts the Bengals over the cap?
by PerryCollective on Aug 2, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I bet DEATH will be doing the forcing
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I keep going back and forth on this.
Nothing would happen without a push from the other owners, but the NFL is like one giant poker table with 32 seats. If you were one of the other 31 owners, would you really want Davis to cash out?
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More importantly, the Raiders are not to my knowledge hurting for fans.
A bad team which keeps its end of the revenue deal is pretty much EXACTLY what the owners in the league would like. You don’t see anyone in baseball calling for the Cubs to change ownership.
What are you talking about
all they have to do is put a fan in the same room as him and he’s blowing away
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Aug 2, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
All I keep thinking,
is that with the addition of Rice, Gallery and our young talented line, now Miller…
…we are absolutely the ideal team for a QB to get drafted to next year. I hate to look ahead already, but the thought of our new offense with Luck/Barkley/Jones at the helm sounds like a potential dynasty. That much youth and talent is going to be scary, that’s for sure.
by NinjaHawk on Aug 2, 2011 2:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not going to rosterbate or speculate but I did think about this while driving home last week.
There was a run on “franchise QBs” in this years draft that the Seahawks did not participate in. That means that barring something very unexpected, you will not see the following teams looking for a QB next year:
Carolina, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Minnesota. Additionally, the Niners draft Kaepernick, which probably wouldn’t stop them from drafting a QB #1 if they were in that position, unless Kaepernick just blows up this year. But they did JUST spend a high pick on a QB. Same with the Bengals on Andy Dalton.
We already knew these teams don’t need a QB:
New England, NY Jets, Pitt, Baltimore, Indy, Houston, Kansas City, San Diego, Philly, NYG, Chicago, Dallas, Green Bay, Detroit, Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, St Louis and Arizona.
There are other teams that may have their QB but undetermined: Denver, Cleveland.
But as far as teams that NEED a franchise QB?
Miami, Buffalo, Raiders, Redskins, Seahawks.
Now, some of these teams will change groups, that is for certain. But thanks to this past draft, and some trades and player movement, I think its basically 5 teams who desperately need a QB and as many as 3 potential great ones in next years draft, not to mention more player movement, etc.
Even if the Seahawks weren’t bad enough to get a top 10 pick, there’s a good chance there will be some really crappy teams picking in the top 10 that have a franchise QB. In fact, its absolutely going to happen, so there’s going to be plenty of room for movement in next years draft, even to #1.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
My only argument with this line of reasoning...
…is that truly potentially great QBs are very rare (just 2 – Bradford and Stafford – in the past three drafts) and next year’s class looks to have up to 3 (Luck, Barkley, Jones) and perhaps even more.
If these 3 guys all declare in 2012, and all have seasons that enhance/validate this high rating, do you think teams that drafted Ponder/Kapernick/Dalton/Locker (depending on how he shows in his rookie year)/Newton (depending on how he shows in his rookie year), Tebow, Cassel, Romo (actually undrafted), Kolb will pass on selecting one of these guys given the opportunity?
Also, given the rookie payscale, drafting another QB high in the draft won’t cripple the team in any way, and if their current guy (Cassel, Kolb, say) still seem servicable, they can always trade them.
Point is, if Luck/Barkley/Jones are all that, don’t plan on any of them making it out of the top ten, and don’t plan on any old team willing to trade away the opportunity to draft one of them.
Hasselbeck: sixth round. Joe Montana: third round. Jamarcus Russell: #1 overall.
No need to splurge on the number one pick. Pete’s MO is to give people chances and see what works; there isn’t any surefire way to get a QB anyway. Building a team that’s ready for a QB is a very good place to start, though.
We’ll just keep shopping at yard sales, thank you. Seems to be working at all the other positions.
As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
by Bisquick McBob on Aug 3, 2011 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought Miller was a FB when I heard he was coming to Vmac today.
Somebody tell me do the Seahawks have a FB lined-up for a visit today ? Please ,Thank you
For what it's worth,
The comments didn’t indicate to me (upon skimming) what position Karney plays.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
But then there's this:
—Former Rams FB Mike Karney is reportedly set to visit Seattle
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Right.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
Wow. Read the post that literally starts this thread.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Funniest picture I've seen in days!!!
@dannyoneil EXCLUSIVE PHOTO of Pete Carroll informing Seahawks staffers of the Zach Miller signing. :)
That's awesome.
I think I know enough of hate/ To say that for destruction Rice/ Is also great/ And would suffice.
Just a reminder for the newbies:
You can go and watch Niners Nation and Silver&Black Pride implode, even have discussions with them if possible.
No trolling.
Offseason 2011: The purge of Ruskell's Boy Scouts continues.
by Wayward Llama on Aug 2, 2011 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm at PFT and the Clayton report on ESPN, and the Raider trolls are really riled up.
Here’s one from PFT:
Really??? Miller 60 catches last year, Does Tavarus even have 60 completions? He’s horrible, like the Raiders priorities for signing thier free agents.
A few more misspellings and CAPS LOCK? Then this would be perfect.
JACK MOVE YOU DIRTY BLACKHOLES!!!
Yes I have a beer in my hand... and I'm ready to watch the Hawks smash the 49ers in week 1.
This is an absolute coup
The more I thought about it, I couldn’t understand why Miller would dream of going anywhere else but Seattle after meeting with Schneider and the coaching staff.
Sure there’s no franchise QB in place right now, but this team has cornerstones in the right places on offense and is ridiculously young. When Miller is 28, the core of the offense will be experienced as all hell and most importantly will have spent their formative years together. The talent is undeniable as well.
Besides QB (obviously), the offense is rounding out nicely. I’d like to see a true fullback brought in, likely at the expense of Chris Henry, and I hadn’t realized Karney was still only 30, as he seems like one of those guys whose been in the league forever.
But 2 weeks ago I never thought we’d be at this point.
As for anymore signings, I’d like Schneider to pick up a fullback and sign a linebacker. I was really hoping for a while there that they’d pick up Ernie Sims by surprise (signed with Colts today) even if the fit wasn’t perfect. Adrian Peterson has called him frightening on the field and he is ridiculously fast for such a good hitter.
The only problem is there aren’t a lot of quality middle linebackers left who would be content to come in and possibly only play sparingly. If I had my pick, I’d like to see the Hawks pick up Kirk Morrison, allowing Hawthorne to play outside and free up Hill to move around a bit.
by mjkleko on Aug 2, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
On the cheaper end of the spectrum
I’d be ecstatic to see the Hawks bring in David Vobora. I saw he play a few times in college and was glad to see him vindicated of the PED charges that were alleged at the end of last season. He’s spent 3 years in the NFC West now and has always been known to work his tail off,
schefter
bq. Here’s the Zach Miller contract with the Seahawks: 5 years, $34 million, including $17 million guaranteed.
Is that a lot?
Claytion reporting/speculating...
that this opens up a Carlson/Pick for Osi deal….
Stay tuned.
We must thank John Morgan ;)
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by EequalsMc2 on Aug 2, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh great, you just named John Claytons future talk show on the NFL Network.
“Welcome to Claytion!”
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stamp of approval given!
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
Ha.
@UnAdamSchefter: Zach Miller has successfully done something today that approximately 390,463 people fail to do each day: Get out of Oakland.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
by hazbro24 on Aug 2, 2011 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Please don't get Osi
we need to save cap room for the future. No rush to spend it all now. ’12 FA is good too.
by Aman2692 on Aug 2, 2011 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Do we have to extend him as soon as we sign him?
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
I'd assume...
that would be the plan.
I do wonder how we would use him though. We only use one real DE in run/pass downs.
Osi becomes the starter and Clemons becomes Red’s pass rushing alter-ego?
We'd have to... It's the main reason he's wanting out of NY
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking that Pete and Co. believe they can win this year though.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's a nice thought to go into training camp and pre-season and the season like "We can do it this year!"
Because hey, i guess you never know, but how many Bills realy believe that this year?
I think that they are clearly “going for it” while the division is still vulnerable. We dont have a franchise QB because we decided to save our picks and spend the cash on Miller/Gallery/Rice instead of Kolb. Which is a good plan.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 2, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Good plan? Yes indeed, you're right.
Had we spent all those resources on Kolb, we’d have a QB but the weapons we acquired like Rice and Miller might not be Seahawks and they’d be locked up long-term with other teams.
Because we did it this way, we add a QB next year to the weapons we have in place and we could be in serious business here. I love it! Pete Carroll and John Schneider may be bringing us to greatness.
What are peoples thoughts on Miller's contract?
Did we overspend? Did we get a good deal for the type of play he brings to the table? Is it a pretty average contract for a player of his caliber?
Thanks guys.
Some comparisons for top NFL tight end salaries
Jason Witten is almost done with a 7 year, $29.5 million contract he signed in ’06
Dallas Clark was signed to a 6 year, $36 million contract in 08’
Tony Gonzalez signed a 5 year, $35 million contract 10’ with the Falcons
Antonio Gates recently signed a 6 year, $39.8 million contract just last season
Vernon Davis is playing on a 6 year, $42.7 million contract signed in 2010
Marcedes Lewis just ended his holdout and it appears he is going to work out a contract with the Jags soon. Wonder how this affects things.
So when you put Zach’s contract of $34 over 5 years, it really isn’t too bad; but that’s only if he maintains his status as an elite tight end.
While these are great to look at
The amount of money guaranteed is just as important
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. Here are some guaranteed figures
Witten – $12
Clark – $8-15 (not sure on this one)
Gonzalez – $17.5
Gates – $20.4
Davis – $25
With Miller at a median-esque number of $17
Like Roy says below however,
The big sticking point is his age. At just 25, we are getting him for his undeniable athletic prime.
by mjkleko on Aug 2, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We paid a lot
but the contract was comparable to other top TEs.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the contract is reasonable
We paid a little less than San Diego paid for Gates and we are paying for a guy during his 25-29 years rather than 30-34 years…
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 2:50 PM PDT reply actions
Ok, I'll say it:
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
YESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!
Sidney Rice: Superstar.
:(
IncarceratedBob was right
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT reply actions
To be fair though he's been pretty spot on except for the Nnamdi thing
And I think even Nnamdi was surprised by it.
by David Hodgson on Aug 2, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Given the depth signings this year
And the way Schneider and Carroll manufactured production from an undertalented D Line last season, I don’t see them throwing a ton of resources at a DE, especially one who is almost 30 and has had serious knee surgery in the past.
Someone over at S&BP is still in shock
So we lose a TE
I dont care. Sure, he was great as a check down, but we have some WR’s that have grown. Were a running team, we need a solid blocking TE, and they are alot cheaper. I think were starting to look more like the Ravens. All defence with enough offense just to do it.
For my entire life, our emerald city was set in the finest gold ring, upon a royal purple standard of excellence. The best will stumble, but the elite will always rise again.
As opposed to the '10 Hawks
who were no defense, and just enough offense to win the NFC West :)
by mjkleko on Aug 2, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We had some nice defensive showings
vs. St Louis and Arizona….Hahaha I kid, I kid.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
That's the very definition of GNN
Bashing an outgoing player just because he didn’t re-sign with your team. The sourest of sour grapes.
All "defence" and no spell check
Sums up Raider Nation pretty well I think.
How's that working out for you... being clever? - Tyler Durden
I say keep Carlson.
And run a lot of 2 TE sets with Miller, with an even bigger BMFMW and Rice on the edges.
19-0 bee-yotches!!!
19-0!!!
Oh no, not Coutu!
Danny O’Neil
K Brandon Coutu not present at #Seahawks practice.
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That poor guy is going to go into therapy.
How can we Charlie Brown the same guy every year? The definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result.
How's that working out for you... being clever? - Tyler Durden
Hehe -- that's stone-cold
love it. And Babs with the shoestring tackle to save a first down or TD. Ah, memories.
Ask and ye shall recieve!
OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!
by bmxnw on Aug 2, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You should see
the Raider fans are going nuts on ESPN’s blog… gotta love the Raider fans…
Yes I have a beer in my hand... and I'm ready to watch the Hawks smash the 49ers in week 1.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/41988/adding-zach-miller-rare-luxury-for-seattle#comments
Yes I have a beer in my hand... and I'm ready to watch the Hawks smash the 49ers in week 1.
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Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 2, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Did I miss something ?
That’s like so what , Right ?
I mean ,
That tells me we maybe got a full-back . Maybe.
Is Mike Rob more of a special teams guy than a fullback for our team?
Or do you think JSPC just want more than 1 fullback on this roster?
john clayton is reporting on 710 ESPN
that with this deal with zach miller we have about 17 18 million under cap.
We should extend Heater for a year or two.
He’s very good and should be a fair price before the great season of stats he’s going to put up this year at MLB.
Sidney Rice: Superstar.
Really don't want him
"How does a guy who had one good year [no disrespect to Charles Johnson] sign a deal and make more than both me and [Justin] Tuck combined?" Umenyiora wrote in an e-mail to the Associated Press on Monday. "It’s not right."
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 2, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.. no need to give up any picks... Dline will be ok... still worried about the CB's though.
Yes I have a beer in my hand... and I'm ready to watch the Hawks smash the 49ers in week 1.
has brent grimes
signed anywhere?…if he hasnt..he’d be a nice pick up, lil short but led the league in pass deflections last year.
We'd have to give up a 1st round draft pick to get him
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
RFA
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We signed another DB:
The #Seahawks have signed former Buffalo Bills S Brett Johnson.
https://twitter.com/Curtis_Crabtree/status/98545511354736640
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 2, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions
Not impressed with the safety?
I know nothing about him, so I got no opinions. Looking for inputs from you guys.
6'1", 195 pounds FS.
Ran a 4.47 40 at his Pro Day. Not really a starter in college (over half the games he played in he didn’t start). Three interceptions so doesn’t seem like a huge ball hawk.
Workout warrior that bounced around the league
Worth al ook. Story is up
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 2, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the Miller move
I would however not like an Osi move…
The guy is going to get overpaid if he comes here, Miller and Rice got what they deserved.
If Osi was a FA I wouldn’t be down to sign him, but the fact is we’d also have to send at least a 3rd to the NYG.
Hopefully we refrain from Osi…
Anyone against the Miller move wanna tell me why they are? Don’t tell me you think we overpaid for him.
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 5:31 PM PDT reply actions
Karney or other Fullback into Chris Henry's old spot?
I wouldn’t mind a 3rd RB behind Lynch and Forsett. I suggest Jerome Harrison.
Sidney Rice: Superstar.
Save the cash for next yr
unless someone gets cut from their team, which can very likely happen
Norwood to the rams.
Here. Even with his injury last year, this looks like a good pick-up for the Rams. He’s almost a Leon Washington…
Bite the wax tadpole.
He's decent. Not a bad pickup.
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoever else we sign I hope...
We get them on the cheap or we sign them to 1 year contracts.
There will be some great Free Agents next year as well and it would be wise to keep a bit of cap space to sign one or two guys. Carson Palmer should be available by then if TJax doesnt work out and he would be a good pickup to try and contend plus to mentor up any future franchise kid we draft.
Other than Tru I dont see many existing contracts we could restructure and save a good chunk of cap space so save some now please!
by The Great Googly on Aug 2, 2011 6:55 PM PDT reply actions
not sure about the new CBA...
but if carson doesn’t play at all this year, he doesn’t get a year of accrual, and I believe the bengals would retain his rights. similar to barry sanders wanting to leave the lions, retiring for a year, and then not being able to move on because the lions still held his rights…
this is all some vague theory steeped in poor knowledge.
Smashmouth is the new sexy!
But back when Barry Sanders did it it took more than 4 years to reach FA
I’m almost 100% sure that Palmer will be an UFA if he comes out of retirement.
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Carson Palmer?
We still haven’t moved on from that?
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 2, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone was talking Palmer now
As in this FA period. Im talking 2012.
If hes available in 2012 and TJax busts you wouldnt bring him in to help mentor a potential franchise kid and give us a shot to contend while he develops behind him?
by The Great Googly on Aug 2, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
forget about palmer
unless theres some stud DE or CB we’re able to draft, WE’RE DRAFTING A QB
…too good of a qb draft class in ’12
You can draft a QB and have him back up a Palmer-type during his first and maybe even his 2nd year
Aaron Rodgers
Kevin Kolb
Philip Rivers
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Like someone else said on one of these posts...
If you get the talent in here and have them gelling by the time you can get your future QB, they could just jump right in and learn on the go, like a Matt Ryan or a Flacco(he just jumped right in didn’t he?)
they did but they also improved in their 2nd and 3rd years
If a Carson Palmer type is going to be better than a rookie QB during their 1st year and maybe 2nd year then that’s still a better option to me. Some blue chip QB prospects need to not be thrown in to the fire. I guess it all depends on who the QB prospect is. I wouldn’t sit a guy like Luck behind a vet, but we aren’t going to get Lucky next year.
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Aug 2, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Depending on how things go this year and next offseason, he may not even be thrown into a fire.
But yeah, I get what you’re saying. Most likely we won’t be landing a top rated QB prospect, so having some vet to show him the ways would be beneficial.
Brady had a caddy too to start with.
Then again, Brady was drafted in the 6th round.
That's what people have been saying since 2008...
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
Forget palmer, i'm hopin for a younger trojan...
…Matt Barkley, or any of the other guys available nxt yr. But Barkley is my fav
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