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Hello, Seahawks Fans!

I am Troy Hufford from the Mile High Report and let me begin by saying that I am just as excited about Saturday's matchup as you are. I haven't come to tell you about your own team. I'm sure you all know much more than I do about the Seahawks, anyways. Instead, I've come to talk about your week 3 preseason opponent, the Denver Broncos.

If you only pay attention to major sports outlets to receive your Broncos news, you’ve probably heard a lot about the quarterback controversy, but not much else. It comes as no surprise to Denver fans, however, because Tim Tebow has been our lightning rod of attention for the past year and a half. However, the quarterback controversy is insignificant in comparison to other parts of our roster.

To help explain, here are 5 things that you should know about the Broncos before watching the game on Saturday night.

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1. Denver’s Pass Rush

Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil have been wreaking havoc for a month. Von Miller, of course, is the highly touted outside linebacker out of Texas A&M who was drafted 2nd overall to the Denver Broncos. He had one of the greatest first steps in college football and is showing Broncos fans that he's more than capable of scaring the life out of opposing quarterbacks in the NFL, as well.

Elvis Dumervil is a former 4th round 4-3 DE out of Louisville who was converted to a 3-4 OLB under Josh McDaniels and then converted back to his natural 4-3 DE position under John Fox. Last year, Elvis Dumervil missed the entire season due to a torn pectoral muscle, but is showing no ill effects during this preseason.

Both players are extremely quick off the ball and can get to the quarterback in the blink of an eye. Last week against the Bills, both players were able to dip their shoulder and go unimpeded to the quarterback on separate occasions. Von Miller's sack was especially impressive because he essentially met Ryan Fitzpatrick as he hit the fifth step in his drop. Even more remarkable, he did it out of a two point stance. This kid will be something special. Against the Bills, Elvis Dumervil nearly took the handoff during a draw play to CJ Spiller. When I say "nearly took the handoff", I mean that in a literal sense. He dipped his shoulder and passed the left tackle while Fitzpatrick and Spiller were standing next to each other. As Spiller took the handoff, Dumervil knocked him into Fitzpatrick, but since there was some confusion about which Bill actually had the ball, Spiller escaped to the left while Dumervil reached for Fitzpatrick. Dumervil caused so much of a disruption in the backfield that the Broncos were able to bring run support and tackle Spiller for an 8 yard loss.

Elvis Dumervil has been called a "quarterback's nightmare" and getting him back onto the gridiron is something that I've been excited about for months. Unveiling two quarterback nightmares, however, is almost unfair for opposing offenses. Due to Von Miller's blazing fast first step, he can blitz from anywhere, drop back to cover tight ends, or blanket runningbacks in the flat. This versatility makes it hard for opposing offenses to adjust their coverages, especially when Elvis Dumervil is moving all around the defensive line, at the same time. But keying on those two players, alone, is dangerous, in it’s own regard.

Last week, we saw DJ Williams blitz off the right side, untouched, delivering a devastating blow to Ryan Fitzpatrick as he threw the ball at the feet of the intended receiver. On another occasion, Rahim Moore blitzed and was untouched, but again, Fitzpatrick threw it away just as the pressure was bearing down on him. Dennis Allen, the Broncos Defensive Coordinator, will be sending blitzers from the slot corner, linebacker, and safety positions. Pass protection will be of vast importance for the Seattle Seahawks, along with staying in manageable down and distances. With the Broncos growing into a top tier pass defense, seemingly overnight, opposing offenses need to avoid 3rd and long situations, otherwise it could be a very long (and painful) night for the quarterback.

 

2. The Revamped Running Game

The Broncos weren't very good on the ground, last year. I think that's fairly common knowledge to most NFL football fans. They had an injured Knowshon Moreno and were forced into a rotating group of average running backs behind a young offensive line under a coach (Josh McDaniels) who's offensive scheme favored a deep passing attack coupled with wide receiver screens and running back screens. Let's just say it didn't work out...

Josh McDaniels was fired and we revamped the entire rushing attack. The Broncos hired John Fox, the former Carolina Panthers coach who specialized in a two running back ground and pound attack. He has indicated from the beginning of his tenure that the Broncos will run the ball more often and more effectively. So far, we have. Fox has utilized a heavy dose of Knowshon Moreno, who looks much improved after shedding 10 pounds in the offseason. He's stronger, quicker, and more elusive than ever before. If he stays healthy, he will have a surprisingly good season.

Another running game improvement has been Willis McGahee. The former Buffalo Bill and Baltimore Raven found his way to the Mile High City this offseason and will be our featured back in the redzone. The Broncos have had trouble for the last 4 or 5 years trying to get the ball in the endzone, so with Knowshon's elusive style and McGahee's nose for the endzone, the Broncos running game should be much improved over last season.

Not to mention the occasional Tim Tebow redzone formations that may occur.

 

3. Defensive Attitude

For the past week, the Broncos have gotten national coverage for two things, the quarterbacks and Rahim Moore. Last week against the Bills, on 3rd and 19, Rahim Moore delivered a devastating hit to Donald Jones along the Bills' sideline, leaving Jones motionless on the ground and numerous near brawls on the field. Players were separated, Jones was taken to the locker room and order was restored. Aside from the unnecessary roughness penalty and $20,000 fine served up to Rahim Moore, Broncos fans are more than pleased with that play. It's not because we condone violence or dirty play, but because the Broncos defense hasn’t garnered much respect from around the league for quite some time. That was a statement play for the Denver defense. A Denver Broncos safety hasn't instilled the fear of God into opposing wide receivers since Steve Atwater, but here we have this rookie who is already earning himself an Atwater-esque reputation during the preseason. I hate to see players get hurt, but I love to see defensive attitude that the Broncos are showing.

For the first time in a long time, Broncos fans are excited about the defense, largely because of this new Broncos attitude. The whole first team defense has been playing like a team who is hungry. Comparing the 2010 defense and this year’s defense is like comparing day and night. The Broncos defense played much better than the Buffalo Bills offense, last week, but their over exuberance got them in a bit of trouble with penalties. No touchdowns have been scored against our first team defense, as of yet, but they've given up their share of big penalties, namely the Rahim Moore unnecessary roughness penalty on 3rd and long, as well as a questionable roughing the passer call on Elvis Dumervil. There's no question that this team is more talented and fast on defense than we were a year ago, but we need to rely more on the overall talent of the defense than on pure aggression.

 

4. Brandon Lloyd and Kyle Orton

These two have been solid since the beginning of last year. Brandon Lloyd is, by far, Kyle Orton's favorite target. The Broncos don't try to disguise it or run any gimmick formations to get Brandon Lloyd the ball. He just beats people. This guy is hardly ever blanketed by a defender, probably a result of practicing across from Champ Bailey every day for the past few years. Even when you think that Lloyd is covered, Orton will throw a back shoulder fade and Lloyd will come up with it. Despite all the talk about Orton not being able to throw the ball accurately, the back shoulder fade to Lloyd is a pass that he hardly ever misses on. Their chemistry is unbelievable.

Receivers Eric Decker and Eddie Royal are also starting to establish themselves as reliable targets for Orton, but Orton seems to be far more comfortable just throwing to Brandon Lloyd. As a Broncos fan, I'd love to see the Broncos throw the ball around a bit more, especially during preseason, but I expect to see a lot of Orton to Lloyd when the Broncos are in passing situations.

 

5. Quarterbacks

What kind of Broncos post would this be without mentioning the quarterback situation? To put it bluntly, the Broncos are set at quarterback. Kyle Orton is the starter, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn are 2a and 2b (don't make me determine which is a and which is b) and Adam Weber is 4th. That should be the end of it. Unfortunately, that's not how the city of Denver operates. The backup quarterback is always more popular than the starting quarterback. When Elway was the starter, there were people who clamored for Tommy Maddox to replace him. When Jake Plummer was the starter, people wanted Jay Cutler to replace him. Two years ago, there was a group of Broncos fans who wanted Chris Simms to replace Kyle Orton as the starter. It';s a never ending cycle of frustration with the starting quarterback and it is no different this year.

From my own personal perspective, I don’t understand what the big rush is with Tim Tebow. If he's not ready, which he clearly isn't, then there shouldn't be a huge uproar. Just let him sit until he is good enough to play. But you've got these extremely divided groups of people, those who are for Tebow and those who are against Tebow. The college hype adds to this debate, along with the religious debate and actual analytical football debate. There is more at work with this quarterback controversy than simply who is better". There are debates about Tebow's arm strength, accuracy, will to win, "intangibles", and lots of other things that cannot be fully covered in the scope of one article. Heck, I'm not sure that the vastness of the internet will be able to fully explain all the variables at work with this situation.

What you should know about the quarterback controversy is this... you will be tired of hearing about it by the end of the first quarter. Since this game takes place in Denver, it means that the Broncos broadcasters will be covering it. So, don't expect much commentary during the game about the Seahawks defense. Expect to know more than you ever want to know about Kyle Orton, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn. If you aren't keen on learning about the meaningless quarterback debates, Boomer Esiason's lambasting of Tebow, Merril Hoge's hatred of Tebow, Joe Montana and Lebron James backing Tebow, or any of the other major Tebow opinions, I suggest muting your television and listening to the broadcast on your favorite Seahawks radio station. That's just a friendly suggestion from a Broncos fan who is tired of hearing about the debate, himself.

 

If you have any further questions, I’d be more than glad to answer them in the comment section below. And your very own, Jacson, has written a Seattle Seahawks article on Mile High Report. To check that out and add to the discussion, click the link. Once again, has been a pleasure talking with you fine folks at Field Gulls and I wish you all the best during the regular season.

Go Broncos!!!

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Thanks Troy.

It’s interesting to hear about Elvis and Von Miller teaming up. I didn’t think Von Miller had it in him to transition to being a 4-3 DE but it sounds like he has done just fine. I was wondering if you had anything on your first preseason game on how the two did. Most everything in the article referenced the Bills game, and while it has credence as being the most recent game of yours, a larger sample size would go a longer was towards giving it more credence. The Bills could simply be having just as much pass protection problems as say…us. Thanks for the article!

Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!

by Bobby Cink on Aug 26, 2011 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

The first team defense played only one drive against the Cowboys.

That drive ended in a field goal. Von Miller didn’t get an opportunity to really get after the passer on that drive because the Cowboys mostly ran the ball. The big play on that drive was a big run from Felix Jones where S Brian Dawkins and LB Joe Mays ran into each other while trying to make a tackle and Jones found a crease.

The biggest sample size we have for first team defense was the Bills.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, that makes sense. More questions on the DLine:

Are you worried about your DTs? My hope is you guys won’t get interior push, which would allow Jackson some practice at climbing the pocket to avoid the pressure from your amazing ends…
Was the end of that funny at all to you? I tried to make a butt joke. Clearly I’m no Jacson…

Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!

by Bobby Cink on Aug 26, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just don't touch my amazing end......

But no, I’m not too worried about our defensive tackles. We’ve brought back Marcus Thomas, a former Florida first round pick who really slacked while Shanahan was coach. He was on the border of being cut a few years ago, but something clicked when McDaniels coached him and he started to show us glimpses of why we picked him in the first round a few years ago. It was just a matter of finding where he was comfortable and that seems to be at defensive tackle.

We brought in Broderick Bunkley from the Eagles who was outstanding in 2009, but missed last year due to injury Last week, he was a split second from notching a sack. He blasted Fitzpatrick, as well. Kevin Vickerson, or Big Vick as we call him, is another guy who we’re excited about. These guys aren’t going to put up big numbers, but they will eat up blocks, which is what we want. As long as they keep our linebackers clean and eliminate the offense’s ability to double team our ends, we’’ll be outstanding.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most people don't want their ends double teamed...ZING!

I hope Vickerson works out well for you. He spent some time with us and I liked him while he was here.

Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!

by Bobby Cink on Aug 26, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the Seahawks can't get a run game going against the Broncos,

my concern level will be ratcheted up another notch.

I havent’ been impressed with Broncos interior line yet, in play or in talent level.
Marcus Thomas was a 4th rnd pick. You guys got his fellow Florida Gator Jarvis Moss in the first that year. What is Thomas’ status? Know he’s been hurt.
-“Outstanding” is a little strong for Bunkley at any point in his career
there’s a reason the Eagles gave him up for a 5th(?). He’s ok, one of those guys who would be considered a pretty good player if it wasn’t for his draft position.
-Vickerson looks like he’s lost a bunch of weight, I wonder how he’s going to stand up against the run
- Ty Warren’s injury really hurts, though I was skeptical about how good he was going to be.
-Depth looks very questionable

Basically, I think the Broncos have three guys who would be solid rotational tackles on most teams, but nobody I’d consider a stud- either as an anchor or a penetrator.

With Doom and Miller on the edge, and the ability of guys like Jarmon and Ayers to slide inside on passing downs, I think the Broncos D could be really dangerous on obvious passing situations- I just think they’re going to have real trouble getting into those situations.

by creid on Aug 26, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor formatting

did not intend for anything to be crossed out.

by creid on Aug 26, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm How'd big Vick look?

And what will you trade for Quinn haha

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by Whidbey Bronco on Aug 29, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good catch.

Time will tell, I guess. I believe we’ve got improvement, though. We aren’t getting pushed off the ball like we were last year. We’re actually getting penetration and making the runningback go east/west instead of north/south. Vick lost weight because he’s not anchoring at nose tackle in a 3-4 anymore.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bronco fan here

Few comments: Marcus Thomas dropped to the 4th round because of personal issues – mj use, getting kicked off the Florida team for violating a curfew. He’s kept it clean the last four years in Denver. His injury is relatively minor, and will be ready for the season. He’s been moved around too much by four different DC’s, and is, hopefully, ready for a breakout year.
We got Bunkley for an undisclosed 2013 pick. My guess is a conditional. Commenters at both the Eagles and Cowboys blogs seem to think we got a steal, if he’s healthy, and he seems to be. Eagles are pretty deep at DL.
Vickerson took some weight off, but none of it was muscle mass. If he needs to add some bulk, IHOP and McDonalds are readily available.
You’re right, no big stars at DT, but Fox’ defense doesn’t rely on big guys there – more on agility and speed. We’ll see how it plays out.

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by bradley on Aug 26, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe Von Miller is only playing DE on passing downs

He’s mostly playing SAM. His sack against Buffalo came blitzing off the defensive right from as the 5th pass rusher.

by creid on Aug 26, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Correct.

During third and long situations, they move the DE Robert Ayers (former 1st round pick) to defensive tackle, put Von Miller on the end and Doom on the other side and let the QB hunt begin.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

6. John Elway

Screw John Elway. If you don’t hate John Elway you are not a true Seahawks fan. SCREW HIM.

by Johnny Slick on Aug 26, 2011 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

You're entitled to your opinion. Agree to disagree.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

You can thank the old division rivalry for those feelings.

I grew up in Colorado and I am a die-hard Bronco fan. Seattle is now my home, and has been for the last five years – so the Seahawks are my second team to root for. Since the Broncos and Seahawks are in different divisions, this works out quite well most years.

Anyway, having been in 12th man territory for awhile, I can safely assert that the bitterness you see for John Elway stems directly from the comeback victories that Elway engineered – repeatedly – against the Seahawks. In this case, the level of hate can be attributed to admiration. Even if Seahawk fans hate him for what he did, they tend to admit that he was a great quarterback.

Besides, can’t we all agree to hate on the Raiders?

by DBroncoFan on Aug 26, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Impossible.

I’m fairly certain the best outcome for a Bronco fan would be the Raiders declaring bankruptcy and disappearing from the NFL. Barring that, an 0-16 record is palatable. There’s no such thing as too bad to hate when you talk about the Raiders.

by DBroncoFan on Aug 26, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

True.

The 11 years away from the AFC West has softened me.

by Johnny Slick on Aug 26, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

You made a mistake here.

You spelled Ben Roethlisberger “John Elway”.

1. Charlie Whitehurst 2. ??? 3. Profit!!!

by NinjaHawk on Aug 26, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

You made a mistake, you spelled Ben Rapelisberger wrong.

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by TheHeretic on Aug 26, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't John Elway

From Washington state? So he has that at least. Besides, he sells nice furniture . . . and cars.

by Spin Forever on Aug 26, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Local guy

can’t hate

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 26, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Troy:

Nice write-up. I am concerned about the health and well being of the Seahawk QB’s as well, but because our O-Line is at least a half of a season away from being adequate in pass protection. However, I did see the faint heartbeat of a running game last week against the Vikes. As you said about the Cowboys game, the way to neutralize the pass rush is to run the ball right at the pass rushers.

How is Denver going to stop the run this season?

by LouieLouie on Aug 26, 2011 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Speed and power.

Apart from that one play where we were gashed by Felix Jones, our gap discipline has been much better than it was last year. We extend rushes towards the sidelines and seal cutback lanes. Joe Mays is one area that I’m a little worried about with the run defense. He’s our Will LB and he is tenacious. He’ll deliver big hits or whiff. Other than that, we’ve been pretty disciplined all around. But, again, a larger sample size will be welcomed. I’m excited to see how they do against zone blocking teams.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Joe Mays was playing Mike

and DJ Williams was playing Will. Or has that changed?

by creid on Aug 26, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a work in progress. lol. Last I checked, they had DJ in the middle.

Since DJ has been in Denver, he has played about every LB position in both the 4-3 and 3-4.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mays is the Mike

At least on first downs. On passing downs, he’ll come out and DJ will move from Will to Mike. Wesley Woodyard will then be the Will, Von Miller becomes a DE, Ayers moves to DT, and something like that. Dennis Allen, the DC who was a postion coach with the Saints, is planning on moving people all over. One play against the Bills, Dumerville moved to the left DE spot, and Von Miller moved to the right.
I just hope the players can keep it all together mentally.

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by bradley on Aug 26, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Regarding point #3

Even mentioning Rahim Moore in same sentence as Steve Atwater is kind of ludicrous. I don’t necessarily think Moore deserved that fine, or that he’s a dirty player or anything of that sort-but, I’ve heard that comparison several times that week and terms like “enforcer” thrown around which makes me think that a lot of Broncos fans didn’t really watch Moore play in college.

The labels “ballhawk” and “center fielder” are apt, but the guy is hardly a big hitter. He made an agressive play against a defenseless, very average sized receiver and walked away looking woozy. Wait until a bigger receiver like Dwayne Bowe comes in his range, or a big back breaks into the secondary- you’ll see a lot of ankle and drag down tackles.

by creid on Aug 26, 2011 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't claim that he's on that level. I was just referring to the fear factor.

WRs can take note that if they come near Moore, they’re going to get popped. The Broncos have had passive Marquand Manual and Marlon McCree and the list goes on…

Atwater is a Hall of Fame caliber safety. Moore isn’t at that level, but I like that he’s playing aggressive. Broncos fans haven’t had that in a while.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even if you're not saying Moore is on Atwater's level,

Moore just is not a hitter or an enforcer type. It’s just not his MO. He made a hit, he’s not a “hitter”, unless he wasn’t showing that aspect of his game at UCLA. He’s built more like a corner. I have the feeling that if he throws his body around like that on a regular basis, he’ll end up hurt.

by creid on Aug 26, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The key to a Broncos victory

Troy, all the Broncos have to do is have Orton pass it to whomever our Seahawks have Kelly Jennings covering. God forbid it’s Brandon Floyd or we’re in for a long game.

by darthmaul5456 on Aug 26, 2011 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

If I could pass the note to John Fox, I would.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Relation or proximity?

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by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's my fault.

It was a dare.

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by hazbro24 on Aug 26, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not just any dare
double dog dare

it had to be done at that point.

by Jazzercise! on Aug 26, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it 'has to be done' at the DDD level that would make the TDD level obsolete.

But as everyone knows, the triple dog exists.

If you're not sure if there's a quarterback controversy, there is one.

by shams on Aug 26, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's not known if the triple dog dare exists.

It is, in fact, only a theory. No one in the history of humanity has ever been able to turn down a double dog dare, and thus we’ve never found out if a TDD is really out there or not.

by John Edwards on Aug 26, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

you used all the glue! on purpose!!!!

Not a finger! I love that movie.

It’s probably going to be snowing in Denver (by my assumption and it being late August) so no licking light posts.

by SGT Lenny on Aug 26, 2011 7:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

ROFL

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by j-man on Aug 26, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man

You were blindsided on that one. Should not have answered.

by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 26, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

SL was going to post it anyways, whether I answered or not. Posted the same thing on MHR and it got deleted.

I thought it was a legitimate question since there was rumor that these guys weren’t on talking terms because of the quarterback controversy. Adam Weber disclosed that this wasn’t true. The quarterbacks still share information with each other regarding footwork, routes, etc.

So, for those of you who actually wanted a mature discussion to legitimate questions, there ya go…

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

A legitimate question for me would be - If Orton wasn't in the QB picture.

And it was just Quinn and Tebow – Would like to see Brady Quinn get a legitimate shot at the QB position?

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 26, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

And he would. Quinn has been playing well this year, like the light came on. He’s been a standup guy in Denver, and deserves a good shot.

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by bradley on Aug 26, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't mean it in a "you got served" kind of way

but interesting response. I hadn’t heard anything about their relationship.

by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 26, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like if Adam Weber is dispelling the rumors that would only create more suspicion.

He’s the fourth-string UDFA guy. Seems like dispelling the rumors would be Orton’s job.

Trying to remember where I read something like “at least Orton is talking to Tebow again” recently, but it was in a big column.

If you're not sure if there's a quarterback controversy, there is one.

by shams on Aug 26, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's the guy driving the car

that the 3 quarterbacks are drunk in the backseat of

by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 26, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Broncos are an elite team.

Based on their pass rush vs. the Bills in a preseason game. Ok.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 26, 2011 10:36 AM PDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Elite team? No. Elite pass rush? Maybe.

You can’t forget that having Dumervil back is huge. He led the league in sacks the season before last, and now he’s teamed with Von Miller. Obviously it’s too early to throw around the word “elite” but the two of them are definitely a force to be reckoned with – and one the Seahawks need to plan around.

by DBroncoFan on Aug 26, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm interested to see how Dumervil does this season.

His best season (statistically) was as a 3-4 OLB, and was rewarded with a big contract in that role. Previous to that he was a very good pass rushing end in the 4-3, but a pretty big liability versus the run. I’ve heard he’s bulked up, but I wonder how much that’s going to help him. It will be interesting to watch.

by creid on Aug 26, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never said they were an elite team.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Elvis is an elite pass rusher, and a Pec injury is not going to slow down his legs.

Von Miller looks like he could project to being an elite pass rusher, and at least looks pretty good at it. An elite pass rush is something that they might have this year.

by cashless on Aug 26, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

not elite but MORE elite at least.

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by Whidbey Bronco on Aug 29, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for this, Troy

Will be really helpful while watching the game tomorrow!

I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Having two, young, very disruptive pass rushers

is GREAT. I wish we were as lucky as you. Great way to start off a defense. How has Ayers looked so far and is he expected to perform better under what was originally assumed would be his natural position of 4-3 DE?

If so, Ayers, Dumervil, Miller and DJ Williams has the makings of a potentially great front-7.

by SD37 on Aug 26, 2011 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Timmy the Tebow

What is the talk around him if he is not the QB of the future… His contract his huge.. what would they do just cut him? I wouldnt pay an H-Back part time gimmick that kinda cashola to be a pumped up cheerleader that wants to take on the world…

Seems like Elway is in a bit of a predicament with this one…

by Jazzercise! on Aug 26, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

His contract can't be that bad for a QB...

He was drafted in the mid-20’s, it’s not like he’s getting Bradford money. He’s also in his 2nd year, so there shouldn’t be any rush in case he gets blessed with divine abilities the next post-season.

by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 26, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 year 33 Mill

With 8.7 guaranteed

Yeah not bradford money but not situational H-back money either…

I would think that type of money would be reserved for a starter…

I did enjoy watching the espn special that documented him before the draft that was great but I think the Broncos got in over their head with this one.

by Jazzercise! on Aug 26, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Troy

Appreciate the time you put into this and the perspective. It is also admirable that you engage our comments section w/ healthy conversation despite the playfullness of bashing on other teams.

Look forward to more of this, as time goes by.

by GnarlyHawk on Aug 26, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Miller & Dumervil are fast...but their so little .

I think Carpenter & Polumbus can take ‘em. And they is dam lucky the big fella’s not playing. GO SEAHAWKS!!!

by Richard fg7 on Aug 26, 2011 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't confuse smallness with weakness.

Both players have a heck of a bull rush.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reading this post in retrospect...this comment made me LOL

"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV

by sadaraine on Aug 29, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao Polumbus couldn't make our team. and VON DOOM thrashed yours.

"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D

by Whidbey Bronco on Aug 29, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Verily, you are kings of the preseason.

If you're not sure if there's a quarterback controversy, there is one.

by shams on Aug 30, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm most interested in the Seahawks' D-line vs the Broncos' O-line

The Seahawk run D looks to be as dominant as it was at the beginning of last year. But in the highlights I saw of the Broncos vs Dallas and Buffalo, the O-line looked to be knocking their D-lines 5 yards backward. This’ll be a good matchup.

Hopefully, the Broncos will play a little vanilla D with their first string. The Seahawks starting O-line faced constant blitzes vs SD and Minn, which made performance evaluations difficult.

by Groundhog on Aug 26, 2011 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Nah. I think we learned more about how the O-line performs

In the Denver game than the previous two. Now it’s obvious the TE’s will be blocking every down instead of just against the blitz.

by Groundhog on Aug 29, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, after reading this

I am glad I am a Seahawk fan.

I’ll take reality based articles on Tavaris Jackson and Aaron Curry over presumptuous hype of Von Miller and Kyle Orton any day.

Tebow sucks.

by wyobo on Aug 27, 2011 12:08 AM PDT reply actions  

As a Whidbey resident, I cleaned up on the local Hawk money!! Twice in a row now.

So yeah thanks for being a fan.

"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D

by Whidbey Bronco on Aug 29, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since I love John Elway

the Sehawks cannot be my favorite team but now that we are not in a division together, I hope you guys do well. May the best team win today as it is now Saturday and perhaps we’ll see the Hawks across the sideline for us with a Lombardi trophy on the line!

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Aug 27, 2011 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

My best to the true fans here in Hawkland. I've seen a few games from the Hawk's nest. Great stadium great fans.

You guys have a lot of great young talent (you’re welcome for Earl Thomas!)
Best of luck.

Love to see you in the Big One one day

"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D

by Whidbey Bronco on Aug 29, 2011 9:45 PM PDT reply actions  

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