Seahawks Preseason Profile: FB Michael Robinson
A lot of the talk during the offseason involved whether or not the Seahawks would bring back fullback Michael Robinson for an encore. MikeRob was a key waivers pickup from the 49ers last season during roster cut downs and came to the Seahawks and really contributed -- first and foremost, he is a special teams captain and ace, and it's a job he takes seriously -- but he was also the team's only fullback for most of the year. Seahawks fans delighted in the fact that many in San Francisco bemoaned the decision to place Robinson on waivers. So there's that, too.
With his experience as a college QB, he can get mixed up in throwing the ball as well. As Robinson put it in an interview with Kevin Calabro recently, "In this league, the more you can do, the longer you stay around."
Apart from being a vocal and respected leader on this young team, Robinson's versatility makes him a pretty key component in the offense. He can run the ball, lead-block, and even pass when called upon to do so (he completed a 26-yard pass to Leon Washington last season). He worked in the wildcat taking direct snaps on a few occasions in 2010, and it's something the Seahawks will likely look to expand on in 2011.
Robinson was a standout QB at Penn State, and in his senior year, 2005, he was actually named the Big Ten's Offensive Player of the Year by the coaches. He threw for 2,350 yards and 17 touchdowns (to 10 interceptions) and was a consensus 2nd Team All Big-10 selection. He also carried the ball 163 times for 806 yards, proving he's no slouch running the ball. So can he still throw?
"Absolutely, and I can still sling it around. I work on it in the offseason. Pete told me, when I left this offseason to make sure I come back and I know what to do with the ball. I was close (to playing last year). They put together a package, and I would stay after practice and work on it."
It's apparent that the Seahawks value his ability to throw the ball enough to have installed packages for it. They only used it one time last season, that I remember, but assuming they can get a little bit of a run game going that people respect, they may decide to break out the Michael Robinson half-back throw option a little more. At worst, teams have to respect his ability, and that gives the Seahawks an advantage, however slight it may be.
The other wrinkle about Robinson's ability to throw the ball is the idea that the Seahawks could lean on him for 3rd QB duties. Though they kept three dedicated QBs last season, this possibility isn't completely out of the question (though unlikely). If they can open up an extra roster spot and stash Josh Portis on the practice squad, Robinson's versatility would be very beneficial.
I'm not sure the team has told Mike what they envision from him specifically, whether it be special teams, full-time fullback, or spot QB duties, but when asked the question of what role the team has told him he'll play, he replied:
"Fullback. Special teams. That's my role. And to do some special things when they ask me to do it. I take pride in special teams, I think that's a big part of this game, and Tom Cable, he emphasizes running the football. I think we're going to run the football, we've got a beast in the backfield, and we gotta let him run."
In addition to an interest in veteran fullbacks, the Hawks have also been running some other guys out at fullback to take a look and it appears that Robinson isn't necessarily the presumptive starter or the full time guy there. Seattle was quick to re-sign him once free agency hit, so you can guess that they value his special teams work equally or even higher than his ability to lead block. The Seahawks special teams units were widely believed to be near the league's best in 2010, and Seattle's front office brought in players known specifically for their special teams play. Last year, it was Sean Morey (before he retired) and Matt McCoy, later Robinson, and I'm sure they'll go to great lengths this season to develop players in that capacity.
Because it's such a big part of his game, Robinson has gone on record during the offseason in opposition of the NFL's new kickoff rules, which moved kickoffs forward five yards. He doesn't think the result will be what the NFL hopes:
"With the kickers in this league, guys that can hang it high up in the air, and pin guys into a corner, I think for returners, they're going to pin it five seconds in the air, put them on the two yard line, and let's go play. I know the league is trying to stop people from getting hurt, but I think it's going to (create) more injuries. Because you shrink the field down to a corner, it becomes a power game. They've kind of taken the finesse part of the game out of the play.
(Teams) are going to put bigger guys on kickoff that can run, and they're going to run down there and it's going to turn into a power play."
It will be interesting to see if he's right.
Regardless of Robinson's main role, the Seahawks will be running in the zone blocking scheme. This scheme calls for the running back to pick a seam and hit it hard. The fullback often gets a free shot at the linebacker on the second level, something that Robinson revels in.
"From a fullback's prospective, you just got to read it like a runner. They make our job really easy, a lot of the times you're a cleanup guy, because the offensive line pretty much takes care of the line of scrimmage. When they add an extra guy, that's your guy. We have great backs, all three of them. I consider us having three number one backs. They just kind of pick their spots on where they want to go. It's a great scheme."
You have to respect his vigor, and it's been reported that he's up to 240 pounds, a gain of about 20 since last season. This should be a huge help for him as a fullback as he takes on linebackers on the second level.
His ability to pull up and throw the ball if need be adds a versatility to the offense, and gives the Seahawks some options in the direct snap/wildcat game. Overall I think Robinson will figure into the Seahawks offense quite a bit this season, and I'd love to see them get creative.
Probably most importantly, his leadership value is immeasurable, both on special teams and just on offense in general. And leadership is something the Seahawks are lacking particularly going into this season.
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Thanks for this, Danny.
Great history on a player I didn’t know that much about (to my shame!).
His perspective on the new kickoff rule is especially intriguing, but I kind of doubt it will work out as he projects. Coffin corners are less and less common in punting situations, so players don’t work on that skill as much as they used to. Of course on a kickoff they would have the concern about kicking out of bounds and sending the ball up to the 35 (just checked the rule – 30 yards from spot of the kick). If he simply means a hanging kick toward the middle of the field, it seems like teams will either let it bounce into the end zone, or it will be so short that the benefit over a touch back will be negligible.
Anyway, and intriguing profile.
It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.
I don't think I've seen a bona fide coffin corner punt in years.
I’ve seen guys shank punts, of course, but the coffin corner seems to have been completely replaced by the “kick it way up in the air and get the coverage team underneath it” move.
Coffin corner punts went away because of defensive adjustments putting pressure on the punter
which forced a direct approach on his part, since the coffin corner approach costs more time (sorry I don’t have a source to hand on this; the question came up last year or the year before and Danny O’Neil had the answer couriered to one of his chats from a veteran league ST coach)
But this doesn’t apply to kickoffs. I can’t think of any reason why a kicker couldn’t saunter up to the ball at any angle and loft it up there like a hot air balloon.
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The reason is that if it goes out of bounds, he just screwed his team's field position.
He could loft it in the middle (or kind of toward the corner), but I just don’t think the average result will be better than a touchback.
It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.
by mister bunny on Aug 9, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
"Kind of toward the corner is more what I had in mind".
Maybe the extra loft won’t count for much. But you’re right, I said I couldn’t think of a reason and you thought of one. :)
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Quotes fail. Bleh.
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Really? I'd say they're more due to the added speed of coverage teams (especially gunners) and the newfound ability of punters to hang the ball waaaay up in the air.
That’s just my opinion though. Love to see that source.
Nobody let's a kickoff bounce into the endzone.
If it’s gonna land in play you have to field it. Only now the coverage team is 5 yards closer.
I think we could see a lot of coverage teams messing up their lane assignments early on the few kicks that don’t make the endzone.
How does a guy go from QB to FB?
Just a willingness to do whatever it took to make the team, or did teams draft him with that in mind?
He went from QB to special teams ace/RB I believe in San Fran
He was 220 lbs last season, and the Hawks used him at FB sparingly. This year, my guess is that they plan to use him more, as he’s gained 20 lbs.
It’s a good question about what teams drafted him for, but I’m almost certain it was not to be a quarterback.
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He just has a football player bodytype and never fit into the NFL QB role.
There was a longer profile on him recently, I forget where, but it’s mostly on his desire to have a long career in the NFL that is credited for his transitions. He’s very unlike a Tebow, who can only envision himself in one role helping a team. Other examples are Brad Smith (ST, WR), Josh Cribbs (ST, WR) who have stayed in the NFL through versatility.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 9, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
He also went from Wildcat RB to QB in college
He busted onto the Penn State scene against Nebraska in 2002 when Penn State crushed #7 Nebraska 40-7. I remember when he came out on the field I heard the people behind us going, who is no 12, why do they have 2 QB’s on the field, then they saw him run.
I should find his run against I think Minnesota where he smashed the Safety.
And then some, if memory serves.
I remember Pete Carroll learning of this last year and having to quickly walk back a certain tweet triumphantly linking to the play in question.
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I never thought about it before, a but a 3rd QB who can do other things is a great way to free roster space.
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I love his versatility
And for me the extra weight is just icing on the cake for the fb position. Great write up on him. I know Thomas has been beating the drum for a more traditional lead blocker but I think PC likes the versatility more than a one dementional player.
As always great work!
by spokahawk on Aug 9, 2011 8:42 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks!
And I’ve been beating that drum as well for a while, but his weight gain comes as welcome news. I just didn’t feel comfortable with a 220 pound lead blocker taking on middle linebackers. I think he’ll be better in that role now that he’s beefed up a bit. We still may see the Hawks add a traditional fullback thought (they brought in Mike Karney but are trying out some other guys at the position still).
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I honestly hope they don't keep a traditional FB
I’d rather see the FB/TE-type player stay. If one of those players sticks, it would possibly open up a roster spot to keep an extra bubble WR or TE that we won’t want to lose to another team, or technically any position.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Aug 9, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
With all the 2 TE sets
I don’t see enough snaps to justify 2 fullbacks on the roster, especially when we have talent we don’t want to cut at QB, WR, and TE. I’d rather see the extra spot used to protect a prospect and use TEs to spell Robinson when needed.
I know now days we are not suppose to fall in love with players
because they don’t stay with the team that long anymore, but how can you not like MikeRob? The guy will do whatever it takes and has a great attitude. I hope with his new beef he will become a premier blocker and we can keep him a few more years. I also hope he can stay healthy the whole year. Also, he is no slouch in the classroom
He decided on a double major at Penn State and graduated with a Bachelors of Arts degree in advertising/ public relations and a Bachelors in journalism.He is also great in the community. See below.
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Nice write up by the way.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Not to mention he has a online radio show
Where instead of sensationalizing sports, he attempts to talk about what is at the hearts of the players he is interviewing. Pretty ’effin cool.
With a FB that has QB skills...
…and a QB with some athleticism, what will a defense do when Seattle’s offense comes onto the field with a standard package (say Lynch, MikeRob in the backfield, TE and 2 big WRs) and then suddenly Jackson slides out to the slot, and MikeRob takes the snap in shotgun.
Seems to me a tough read for the defense with little time (seconds) to react, and lots of options for the offense once the ball is snapped.
If we can draft a highly touted QB next year and keep this team
in tact, we could have something special. Or bring in Carson Palmer next year. Although I don’t know the rules on how or if a retired player can come back because of his situation with the owner. I don’t know if the Bengals have to release him or what. What the limitations are, etc. I am sure on some thread this has been discussed to exhaustion; but I didn’t see it.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
They ran stuff like this back in the 30s.
Of course, that was mostly runs and pitches instead of longer passes down the field. Most teams didn’t even run the T and so didn’t have a conventional quarterback.
Bengals will retain Palmer's rights until they release him
Or until his contract runs out I guess, not sure how that works. He’s still a Bengal next year.
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by Thomas Beekers on Aug 11, 2011 3:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Or you put 4 RBs on the field...
…and Carlson and Miller, and then run the ball (or throw to one of your pass receiving TEs/RBs.
I cant believe I'm saying this
But, our run game should be decent if not good this year. Can’t wait for thursday!!!
by Yevgeniy Frid on Aug 9, 2011 9:44 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Being in SoCal and not having the NFL ticket
I don’t think I get to see the Seahawks preseason game until Friday or Saturday morning on NFL Network Replay. Sucks!
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
I think I looked there and didn't see it. I will look tonight. Thanks.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Anyone know if it will be online in some form?
I’m going to be at the girlfriends’ parents’ place… and they find my love of football charmingly proletarian.
Could be a sign
That she needs new parents.

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