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College Players to Watch - Seahawk Perspective Vol 1

DK Edit: Great fanpost here profiling some college cornerbacks to keep an eye on. Give it a read...

Ok readers, I'm going to try something new. I'm going to write on some college players based on Seattle's needs. Every year around draft time, I scramble to find highlights based on positions of need etc. This year I want to watch the players live and try and get a head start. I'm going to start with corner. We have traded Kelly Jennings, which is a good start. I actually like what I see so far with the corners who have replaced him, especially Brandon Browner, but I still think corner can be improved and I started my research before Jennings was sent packing.

First up is the corner I like the most in the country. Cliff Harris out of Oregon. This kid is electrifying. In 2010 he faced a couple of tough quarterbacks in Andrew Luck and Matt Barkley (both projected 1st round picks in 2012). He picked of Andrew Luck twice in a game last season and Matt Barkey once in their game. Watching the film, he has good positioning, he turns his hips really well, and he led the nation with 23 passes defended and 17 breakups. That my friends is what we call a cover corner. At 5'11" 180lbs he's not the big physical corner that Pete Carroll likes, however if there is an exception to make for a player, this is the guy (in my opinion). Oh, did I forget to mention he returned 4 punts for TDs in 2010. Now he is an underclassman and may not declare after this, his junior year, but depending on the type of season he has I think he will.

Next up, the only senior corner I'll be looking at, Coryell Judie our of Texas A&M. He is a solid 5'11" and 188lbs and a player that Sports Illustrated has tagged as a Nagurski Trophy candidate. One thing I noticed about him is his catch-up speed. If a WR jukes him and gains a stride or two, Judie catches up in a hurry. He had 4 picks in 2010 and he showed off his leaping ability to get to 2 of them... he's got the vertical jump. He's a very good kickoff returner as well (not that Seattle needs one, but it is good to have depth). He is a strong tackler and the one handed INT in the cotton bowl against LSU was pretty sweet to see. He reads the QB well. In that same Cotton Bowl game, there were a couple of short completed passes and before the receiver could turn, he was met and tackled by Judie. He has good instincts as a corner.

Jayron Hosley out of Virginia Tech. He is a junior but with nothing left to prove at the college level. I'll be honest I didn't know anything about this kid before the College SI issue came out. SI holds him in high regard and even stated he could be the top corner in the nation. I looked at some highlights and he's definately solid. I was looking for holes in his game because my top corner is Cliff Harris, but he really doesn't have any. He rotates hips well to run with WRs his positioning I must admit is a bit better than Harris. I still like Harris's big play ability, but Hosley is certainly a top corner in the nation. He's smooth, has good instincts, can tackle and does well on kick offs. On a lot of the plays I saw where the QB had to scramble out of the pocket, Hosley was patient and held his position and was there to either break-up the pass or come down with the pick.

The last CB I'm going to mention today is Greg Reid from Florida State. SI also stated that Reid has the skills to become one of the ACC's top corners. The first thing you'll notice though about Reid is his hight, or lack there of. He's listed at 5'8" tall which may hurt his draft stock when he enters the draft, but the first thing you notice about Reid is he doesn't play like he's 5'8", he plays much bigger than that which is why he's here. You can see him stretch out on his verticle and get just enough of the ball to deflect it away on a number of his highlights, I don't know what his nickname is but it should be 'Just Enough'. A few hightlights shows him laying out bigger WR with vicous hits after a catch. He's certainly a big play return man in nothing else. Can he make it as a true cover corner in the NFL? I don't know, but he's fun to watch and easy to cheer for. Against the 6'5" WRs he may have trouble, but as a nickel CB I think he could handle with ease. His size will make him a 3rd round pick or later, but watch him play... the team that drafts him will get their money's worth.

Well that's all I've got. If any of you know of a corner in college that you think is great reply with him here. I enjoy searching for highlights and watching football with a purpose. I don't know which position I'll look for next, but those suggestions are welcome as well... offensive linemen are tough to find highlights on. I know it's a focus right now, but our line is young and I think will be ok. I hope you enjoyed reading this as much as I enjoyed writing it.

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100 MPH while high and in a rented car

Now personally I got nothing against smoking weed, but that combination shows poor judgement.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 1, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other words Future Raider/Bengal

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 1, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

A few other NFLers with legal issues

Mike Vick, Ray Lewis, Marshawn Lynch, Hones Ward, Raheem Brock, well lets start with players without any sort of criminal record…

Don’t think the weed/driving fast would keep PC from looking at the kid. But height issues…

by SGT Lenny on Sep 1, 2011 4:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not a rented car

it was off the books and given to him by a publicist or someone in that capacity. It was “her rental car” and she let him “borrow it”

by DSAhawker on Sep 1, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't get suspended for just traffic tickets

He actually has had numerous issues including drugs and taking incentives …they’re under investigation right now and appears like it’s a pretty deep hole for Oregon

by DSAhawker on Sep 1, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of spotty history, to clarify

Any drug related charges are based around weed. Not sure where the “taking incentives” comes from. He had some issues entering college over a high school fight, for which there aren’t many details. There’s a question of character there but it’s also from a high school fight which is hardly the end-all of character questions.

More importantly, he still has discipline issues in coverage. He has amazing ball skills and incredible burst as a cover corner. He also can bite while trying to jump routes and reading QB’s eyes. He had a couple abysmal games last year when the offense was committed to baiting him. So, while he was an all-america level CB for most of last season, he was responsible for giving up big plays a number of times. This can be fixable but it’s also the sort of issues that have plagued DeAngelo Hall throughout his career. High INT numbers, high return yds/INT numbers but also a high number of big plays given up.

So, while character issues exist I think his bigger issues are in coverage discipline. I see his draft stock rising sky high between his high INT numbers, great speed and great return abilities but WTIII was and always has been the better cover corner. WTIII had solid cover skills, excellent return abilities and was far more disciplined in coverage. Cliff Harris is more physically gifted but WTIII was always the better CB.

by niko on Sep 2, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

weed-reckless driving-shady car situation

Learn JiuJitsu.
Always looking for that new danger.

by RolloTomasi on Sep 3, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need to follow some defensive line prospects for next year. We have the free agent writers to keep up this section (first kudos to tarryhawk for bringing this up).

I’m going to follow Jesse Williams, an Alabama junior who is a JUCO transfer from Arizona State. He won’t apply until the 2013 Draft, but i’m extremely interested in how he fares in the SEC. Think of him as a poor man’s Haloti Ngata or Terrence Cody (starting DE, backup nose for the Crimson Tide). I’m a sucker for potential Aussie prospects, so expect me to scout other guys BESIDES PUNTERS.

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Thou hath angered Hawku fan
COME AT ME THOU FOOL"

by RagingAlot on Sep 1, 2011 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Quinton Coples at UNC

Brandon Jenkins FSU
Donte Paige Miller UNC
Jared Crick UNL (Nebraska)
Courtney Upshaw Alabama
Vinny Curry Marshall
Devin Taylor USCe
Kheeston Randall Texas
Jake Bequette Arkansas
Melvin Ingram USCe

Not all pure DEs but that should be a decent list of 1st/2nd round level dudes.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 1, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dre Kirkpatrick

Is going to slip to use in the second round I caught him with hookers last weekend

by Jazzercise! on Sep 1, 2011 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

use = us

Also Vontaz Burflict is going to slip to us in the 3rd round because he bites people’s ears for fun…

by Jazzercise! on Sep 1, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

Well I guess everyone needs love, even if you have to pay for it. lol

by tarryhawk on Sep 2, 2011 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

A corner to keep an eye on is Trufant, from UW.

There’s a CB from Nebraska (I think) whose name escapes me at the moment, but is one I think warrants keeping an eye on.

by Carl Shinyama on Sep 1, 2011 5:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Alphonzo Dennard

another reader brought him to my attention, I’ll certainly watch out for him.

by tarryhawk on Sep 2, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Denard's kind of short.

If I remember correctly, he’s just a shade over 5’10. Not sure if PC and JS would consider him if he was available.

by Coach Owens on Sep 2, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Xavier Rhodes

Seriously, no mention of Xavier Rhodes? Is there a more prototypical Carroll CB than him?

by Scott Enyeart on Sep 1, 2011 10:41 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Rhodes

I’ll watch for him. Wanted to keep the article smallish, hoped to get some names posted in here that people would start talking about. Thanks for reading and posting.

by tarryhawk on Sep 2, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

tough thing is...

that he is probably a first round talent….and a QB is gonna be taken in the first round, but Rhodes is no doubt a guy to watch

by Scott Enyeart on Sep 2, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any QBs not named Luck or Barkley we should pay attention to?

"There's an old saying - revenge is a dish best served immediately."

by Hmph on Sep 3, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Not sure whether you want or allow help from an outsider (uh, 49ers fan); if so, here it is ...

The CB candidates (in the 2012 draft) you mentioned are ranked as the 41st (Harris), 48th (Judie), 77th (Hosley) best collegiate players in the country at the moment. Greg Reid isn’t included on the list at all because it is assumed that as a CB at 5’ 8" tall he won’t be drafted at all.

Based upon current CB rankings, the six best candidates for the ’12 draft are:

8. Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama 6-2 192 Junior
11. Alfonzo Dennard Nebraska 5-10 205 Senior
17. Morris Claiborne LSU 6-0 185 J
26. Janoris Jenkins North Alabama 5-10 182 S
34. Stephon Gilmore South Carolina 6-1 194 J
37. Chase Minnefield Virginia 6-0 185 S

The number in front of the name is overall ranking of all players nationally, all positions, all schools. (e.g., 1. Andrew Luck QB Stanford).

by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 5, 2011 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

thanks

I will take football information from anyone, and actually my best friend is a 49er fan… makes Sunday’s interesting. a couple on that list, I’m not familiar with and will add to my watch list for sure.

I don’t agree with that top 6, but that’s part of the reason I like these blogs… to open up debate and get other views.

Thanks for posting.

by tarryhawk on Sep 7, 2011 7:31 AM PDT reply actions  

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