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Week 2 Edition.

Here at Field Gulls we’ve had discussions on just about every aspect of football, including having discussions about when we can or should have discussions about Fantasy.  Well, this IS the place.  You can, if you must, add fantasy talk in additional game threads, but be warned, someone may be watching, and they may be mocking.  Here, you have free rein to talk your team’s reign or your rain of injuries.

Something to note, and this should be a true football fan’s golden ticket when it comes to heaven and hell and the voiding of the warranty on your soul.

The first rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against the Seahawks.

The second rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against the Seahawks.

On this site, for sake of your own health, NEVER cheer against the Seahawks due to your fantasy roster.  My personal rule is to avoid as much as possible acquiring division rivals, or to avoid playing them against the Seahawks if reasonably possible.  Statements like, "Well, at least I have Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team" (if) he was scorching the Hawks will unleash the hounds of hell upon you.  Please don’t be that one bastard playing the "Don’t Come" line at the craps table.  Not only will you bring bad mojo to everybody, but you’ll likely get verbally harassed, if not banned.  You’re a Seahawk fan, you aren’t "that guy" you are one of OUR guys—act like it!

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Week 2—the Good, the Bad, The Ugly.

I can’t imagine there’s a single Arian Foster owner out there right now that’s happy about winning the first or second pick in the draft.  Even the guy who smartly handcuffed himself with Ben Tate is wondering "what the hell do I do now?"  Do you start Foster now that he’s officially listed as questionable and sounds like he’ll play?  Or do you hope he doesn’t play and Ben Tate gets all the carries?!?  Not to mention, you can’t be happy that this single back attack now looks like it wants to go the way of the duel back system. 

The Texans, for the record, are 24-3 under Kubiak when they get 30+ carries, and are looking to get Foster 20 carries and Tate 10. 

This situation is good, bad AND ugly, all at once.  If possible, avoid them both this week.  Or, with Derrick Ward out, if you have no other solid RB options, play them both and hope you get enough performance to make up for starting one team's entire backfield.  

The Good—

Reggie Wayne.  I don’t think any Week 1 wide receiver performance surprised me as much as Wayne’s, for a multitude of reasons.  Obviously owners are sad Peyton isn’t delivering to him, at least for quite some time.  However, I for one think he will still have a very good fantasy year.  This week’s numbers – 7 rec, 109 yards, 1 TD.   

Naysayers will contend that the TD came late.  I would respond with this—11 targets.  Also, cheap late touchdowns come often when you are playing from behind, and does anyone NOT think the Colts will be playing from behind frequently this year? 

Also good— IDP Kam Chancellor.  If you are a Seahawk fan and don’t have Kam on your IDP roster but he is available and you play a DB, get him immediately.  He had 10 tackles last week, and you can bet he’ll continue to see looks if our offense can’t stay on the field.

The Bad—

Well, it was bad for ME at least, and that’s all that matters.

Wes Welker, I hate you with my soul.  Never in my wildest conspiratorial "everyone hates me and the PNW" did I think that I wouldn’t win while up 30 points going into MNF.  Wes Welker reminded me that no fantasy game is ever over if I’m the team that’s ahead. 

The Ugly—

Injuries abound.  Of course we missed Arian Foster in week 1, and Peyton.  But there were a rash of injuries above and beyond that.  I’ve heard suggestion that it was the short training camps, but I have a hard time believing it.  These are elite athletes, most of which spend the offseason in relatively good shape.  I can’t imagine suddenly they’re all in poor shape and getting hurt simply because of off season conditioning.

Regardless, it is a legitimate issue.  Here’s a short list of injuries going into week 2 –

Steven Jackson likely out, Caddy Williams in, at least for a week, and will be playable.

Sam Bradford also on the watch list, though he looks like he’ll play. 

Knowshon Moreno likely out.  And his season is starting to look like his career-- lost in the Mile High air.

Dez Bryant questionable.  Sit him if you have other options.

Calvin Johnson is also questionable, but I’d play him if he can still walk.

Danny Amendola is out.  If he was a playable option for you, you likely had greater problems, but find someone else immediately.

lil' Stevie Johnson is probable and still worth starting.

Also of note, legitimate IDP starters Jon Beason and Eric Berry, along with solid starting Kicker Nate Kaeding were all put on the IR.  It’s been a rough year thus far for injuries, and we’re just getting started.

Waiver Wire Value Suggestions of the Week—WR

Jacoby Jones.

Kevin Walter is questionable with a shoulder injury, and Jacoby has been named starter.  While this isn’t likely to be a season ending injury to Walter like first reported, it could linger and if it worsens there is an opportunity here beyond a single week if Jacoby takes off or Walter experiences a set back.  

Last year Walter and Jacoby Jones combined for 102 receptions, 158 targets, 8 TD’s and 1183 yards, but split those opportunities quite equally between the two of them opposite Andre Johnson.  If you need a WR for a week, particularly if your league gives return points to the player, Jones is a great pickup.  But if either Jones or Walter goes out long term via injury, be certain to pick the other up and reap the benefits.

Deion Branch.

Deion had 9 targets and 97 yards last week and is still on the waiver wire in most leagues.  He averaged a respectable 64.2 ypg last year after moving back to the Patriots, and appears to be, believe it or not, healthy.  If you have WR issues, you can do much worse.

See you next week.  

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The waiver wire, or

where the Colts roam.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Sep 17, 2011 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

So whiskey,

Thoughts on starting Santonio Holmes vs. Randal Cobb on the bench. Holmes is banged up a bit and Cobb is a one game and preseason phenom. But he’s going up against Carolina while the Jets are playing the Jaguars.

I’m at flip a coin point here.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Sep 17, 2011 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Cobb blew his assignment on both big plays,

taking out the ball on the return when he shouldn’t have and blowing his route on the reception TD. I’d expect the coaches to reign him in a bit in week 2. He’s also a rookie and rookie WRs, in general, tend to struggle.

Holmes, on the other hand, may not play at all. I’d check out the injury report before the game and go with Holmes unless he’s held out.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 17, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd wait till the last possible moment before sitting Holmes.

Not sure if he is early game, but i’d only go cobb if holmes sits. But, i am not a Cobb fan. He’s devery henderson, outdoor edition.

2 catches, 1 td. Hard to sustain that average on a weekly basis. And in games that “slow down” scoring-wise, guys like him are the ones who tend not to get looks.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 17, 2011 5:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Greg Salas is supposed to be Amendola's replacement in the slot

Given Bradford’s penchant for shorter stuff, he might be a good PPR pickup (with the caveat that he’s a rookie WR and dropped his only target last week).

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 17, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Third WR question...

Lee Evans (@ Ten), Pierre Garcon (v Cle), Mike Williams….ours vs Pit.

Leaning towards Garcon, I think Lee Evans loves being a terrible FF player.

by Stay Off the Flowers on Sep 17, 2011 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Probably Garcon...

Is this a FG league?
If so – then the TD is probably what you want, and he’s probably most likely. you have to think Kerry Collins will be better than last week (not by leaps and bounds, but perhaps he can be a functioning QB).

Evans could do well too – but he doesn’t have a catch yet, so it’s hard to know.

And Williams… well… we know about that matchup.

by BennyGStein on Sep 17, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the order, at this point in the season.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 17, 2011 5:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mobile reply fail...

Also, give evans time… It’s early and I think he will be more effective in baltimore second half of the season.

As for bmw, well, pass for now. We need line improvement before ANY hawks are playable….

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 17, 2011 5:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bess; Miami looks like one of those lousy teams that has to throw it 35+ times a game.

It’s very rare for a player not named Devin Hester to return kicks for TDs two straight weeks, and there are just too many good receivers in Green Bay to count on a rookie.

by J.L. White on Sep 17, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

PPR or general league. Either way, I’m not a Cobb buyer.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Schaub or Kevin Kolb

and Willis McGahee or Frank Gore (I was forced to draft him and can’t get rid of him for value)?

Also stuck on Jacoby Jones or Darren Sproles. I’m leaning towards Jones since I don’t think Sproles can repeat his performance the very next week against Chicago.

Now with more pessimism!

by Fear on Sep 17, 2011 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Jacoby Jones or Darren Sproles would be for W/R

and receiving yards are included with return yards.

Now with more pessimism!

by Fear on Sep 17, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sproles is the sleeper pick this year I think.

Saints will use him way more than the Chargers. I’ll probably be starting him every game.

Schaub vs. Miami or Kolb vs. Washington? Coin toss, but I’d go Schaub. Arizona’s going east, and they’ll be playing catch up every game with their horrid D.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Sep 17, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was leaning towards Schaub, hoping Miami's secondary is just that bad.

It helps that I have Arian Foster and Ben Tate. As long as Houston puts up good offensive numbers, I’ll be picking up points.

Now with more pessimism!

by Fear on Sep 17, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many eggs you got in that basket?

Miami has good corners. I’m just seeing bad things for the Cards in Washington.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Sep 17, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just Schaub, Foster, Tate, and Jacoby Jones.

I can go elsewhere. Not with QB (though I could grab Orton off the waiver wire I guess), but I have McGahee and Gore for RB (currently starting Foster and Gore, but we’ll see how his injury is looking before kickoff) and neither of my top two receivers are in Houston.

Now with more pessimism!

by Fear on Sep 17, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this a FG 16-team league?

Because if so, I REFUSE to believe that both Orton and Henne are on the waiver wire…..or that your league is going to be incredibly easy to beat.

Even if you have Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers on your team, you better scoop up those two QBs right now (unless you’re not in a FG league).

by J.L. White on Sep 17, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah it's a 10 team league and it's not a FG league.

However, it does give out points per 20 yards instead of per 25. Other then that, standard scoring.

Now with more pessimism!

by Fear on Sep 17, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's good info to know.

Even in a 10-team league, Orton should be on someone’s bench, in my opinion. But it’s not that huge of a deal.

by J.L. White on Sep 17, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I originally had him but dropped him to make room for Kolb.

I also now have Henne. Add that to Schaub and, well, I’m clearly stacking up QBs and hoping one shines.

Now with more pessimism!

by Fear on Sep 17, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schaub should be okay

He’s been stellar for a few years now.

by J.L. White on Sep 17, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh,

My league’s waiver wire/FA on QB’s reads: Dave Garrard, John Beck, Tim Tebow, Carson Palmer, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Sep 17, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schaub and Gore.

I don’t trust Denver’s offense right now, even with Moreno out.

I don’t know that I’d EVER start Kolb ahead of Schaub this year. At least not until I can see Arizona as a consistent and improved offense.

I like Sproles and Jones. I’d say go with your gut. Jones might be more likely to get in the end zone off the big play, but Sproles probably is more likely to score modestly but not lay a goose egg on you.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had TB Blount starting rb last week

And he didn’t do a thing. This week I’m putting him on the bench and starting benson who had a great week. Do you think this is the best move? I just don’t see Blount getting a ton of carries this week, an cinci doesn’t have a legit qb so benson should get plenty. Am I right or should I keel blount in?

by Savage Seahawk fan on Sep 17, 2011 7:44 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions  

I don't like Benson....but I do like him against the Broncos.

Unless the game against the Browns last week was a total fluke (and it might have been), Benson should get enough carries to be worth starting this week; Blount should improve this week, but I’d prefer to let him prove it on my bench.

by J.L. White on Sep 17, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've got the same problem with Blount.

My co-GM and I are debating Blount, Sproles, and Caddy. we decided to go with Caddy, but we don’t feel good about any of them.

I HATE Benson, though. So I’m biased there. He strikes me as a crappy back whose best days are behind him, running for a bad team.

But, both coaches want to establish the run. TB is facing a solid D at home though, so if they fall behind they’ll abandon the run just like they did last week. I think Blount’s close to being an auto start, but he’s also close to being unstartable right now. They abandon the run too fast, really haven’t beaten a good team (GB late last year excluded) and haven’t committed to him on the goal line.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

---If you have a FFL question, please cleary state if you're NOT in a Field Gulls league---

Just say Standard or PPR league (and include any non-standard rules that might be relevant to the question you’re asking) somewhere in your comment.

I for one will assume you’re in a FG league unless you say differently.

by J.L. White on Sep 17, 2011 7:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Indeed.

I wouldn’t want to give advice with a preface every time ("If this is a FG league, then do_____. If not then____). It leaves way too much unknown and the league’s scoring is very important.

by BennyGStein on Sep 17, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wont assume it.

Given I’m not in a FG league. I would actually go with standard league as the assumption.

The oddity of the FG leagues make me think you should specify if you are in one of those leagues. But then, it’s essentially a PPR league with QB bonuses, correct? So really, everyone should specify what league you’re in.

1) Standard
2) PPR
3) FG

If you leave it blank, we’ll all just guess with whichever seems most logical to us.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Upside play

Who do you think has the better potential to put up big numbers this weekend as a slot play: Robert Meachem (NO vs CHI) or James Starks (GB vs CAR)?

This is a general question, not a FG league one. And actually the league I am in is a 10 team PPR league where i’m trying to find a replacement for my usual slot of Chad Ochocinco. 1 point per reception. All other scores are rather standard.

I’m thinking of rolling with Meachem, since I don’t really know how many touches Starks will get.

by BennyGStein on Sep 17, 2011 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the Bears/Saints game will be pass-heavy

And Meachem looks good this week, with Colston out. I’d say he’s more likely to get a lot of catches and touchdowns than Starks.

by J.L. White on Sep 17, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah - someone's gotta catch the ball for Brees.

If Starks takes over, that’s great. But i don’t know if i’m comfortable deploying him just yet.

I wish Ochocinco was up to speed. I’ll probably get screwed by benching him…

by BennyGStein on Sep 17, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meachem this week.

I’d give one more week for the Starks/Grant battle to sort out before I trust that he’s going to get the goal line or even the primary carries.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im thinkin about throwing in Jordy Nelson of GB as a swing player.

I think he could put up some more numbers like he did last week especially against carolina this week.

by RawkEmHawkEmBirdbots on Sep 17, 2011 9:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Not a bad start at this point.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely Dallas

Patriots DEF is gonna get lit up by SD. If Henne can get 400+ yards, imagine what Rivers will do. Scary.

Meanwhile, Dallas is playing the 49ers. Yea…

by SeahawksPhan on Sep 17, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a standard Yahoo League

Should I start Chris Johnson vs Ravens or Felix Jones vs 49ers?

And in the FG league…CJ Spiller vs Oak , Brandon Gibson vs NYG, or Eddie Royal vs Cin?

by Gotcha2 on Sep 17, 2011 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe Royal?

I have CJ in a league or two – and he did absolutely nothing. Fred Jackson seems to be the guy there for now. Gibson could do well, but he’s a bit of an unknown. Royal could be in line for some good things… then again – Denver stunk it up against Oakland. Tough call. I’d go Royal or Gibson.

by BennyGStein on Sep 17, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd probably go with Felix.

I don’t trust the Tennessee offense this week. He might bust one, but they’re pretty stout. Felix looks to have serious upside this year, and SF is still adjusting to lots of changes on D. Ask yourself this— did last week tell you anything about the Niner D, or did it merely tell you what you already knew about the Hawks O?

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 2:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Ryan or Josh Freeman?

For the FG league. I like the story line with Matty Ice so I’m leaning towards him right now. Might wait and see how the Buc’s offense picks up.

by manilamaniac on Sep 18, 2011 12:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh man.

I don’t like either matchup this week.

In times like that, go with the superior/more highly regarded player, which is Ryan.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coin Flip depending on scoring system.

Floyd is a distant 3rd target for Rivers, but look what the Pats gave up to Miami last week. There’s enough points there for all.

Harvin only had 4 targets, but he also got 4 runs. Floyd had 8 targets (3 rec for 45yds).

I think Harvin’s upside is greater with his big play potential, but McNabb and his O looked terrible. However, he’ll get some runs as well.

I’d probably lean Percy, particularly if you get return yardage.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I slept through the draft,

which got me Pittsburgh’s quarterback on my Standard roster. I’m benching him this week in favor of Rex Grossman. Hopefully, Roffles’s fury will make him play sloppy today.

My running backs have been eating at me, though. I have Hillis against Indy and LeSean McCoy against Atlanta in but Fred Jackson and Mike Tolbert are sitting out waiting to play Oakland and New England, respectively. Should I make a substitution or stand pat?

by EthelGemerman on Sep 18, 2011 6:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Honestly, I'd play the Rapist.

That being said, all your RB options are solid. I’m a McCoy fan, so he’d be my auto start. The rest I’d feel comfortable playing your gut impulse, whatever it is.

"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz

by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 18, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

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