Seahawks Roster Cuts, Free Agency News, Rumors, and Gameday Open Thread
by Danny Kelly on Sep 2, 2011 10:05 AM PDT
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Every game we get people clamoring for an open thread an hour or two before it goes up so I figured I'd be proactive here and throw one up in the morning for all y'all at work that are getting pumped up for the game tonight.
Some points of emphasis on tonight's game:
-- How long will the starters play?
-- How will the offensive line hold up? Will James Carpenter start or will it be Breno Giacomini?
-- Defensively, will we see much creativity?
-- Atari Bigby, Josh Pinkard, Jeron Johnson, and Mark Legree are in a tough battle for one or two roster spots, who will come out ahead?
Also, today a lot of roster cuts will be going on around the League as teams try to get to 53 by tomorrow, so this will be a good forum to discuss the happenings there. A few of note so far include the Buccaneers release of both LB Tyrone McKenzie and DE Kyle Moore. McKenzie is a former 2nd round pick that was fighting for the Bucs starting MLB position recently so it comes as a big surprise to Bucs fans. As Sander of Bucs Nation put it:
Tyrone McKenzie has since had a decent preseason in which he looked very capable, and at the very least like a capable backup. This release comes out of nowhere, and I cannot in any way justify it. McKenzie was clearly the second-best middle linebacker on the team. This move makes this team weaker, and I really don't understand it. I like Mason Foster, having a quality backup behind a rookie who is still learning the position is key.
DE Kyle Moore was a Buccaneers 4th round pick in 2009 that had largely disappointed until this preseason. Sander also points out that:
He seemed rejuvenated this preseason, and has played much better. He was destroying right tackles and regularly getting to the quarterback. Despite his improvement he faced an uphill battle to make the roster.
With two high draft picks in Da'Quan Bowers and Adrian Clayborn ahead of him, he was pushed far down the roster.
I would imagine that both McKenzie and Moore will at least get looks from the Seahawks, and Moore is especially interesting because Seahawks defensive line coach Todd Wash was with the Bucs when Moore was drafted. We've seen the Hawks bring in a few Bucs castoffs already so it's something to watch.
We'll try to update this post with anything else noteworthy throughout the day. DIscuss below...
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Colts are reportedly releasing Anthony Gonzalez and Donald Brown
They have had one of the worst streaks of 1st-round draft picks I have ever seen. Ruskell got nothing on them
Formerly Known As Vasilii
It certainly helps when you get hired as GM just when Manning is about to enter the draft.
by SmartAssCoug on Sep 2, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
If only Ruskell had been so lucky
He could have drafted an OLB instead.
by Hancock.Brett on Sep 2, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
With Gonzalez, it's all about injury, right?
When he played, he looked real good. it’s just that he keeps getting hurt.
Beast Mode, fo' real.
I was immediately surprised reading about McKenzie.
Also surprised to read about it here, heh. I figured the Hawks might take a look. There was seemingly a very real chance he was going to start ahead of Mason Foster at MLB for the Bucs. My how things change.
2011: Building the Trenches.
Kind of wishing that it had been Foster that they had released.
I would have loved for the Seahawks to be able to sign him.
I've said it a million times already
But damn, the decision on which / how many safeties to keep has got to be the toughest choice that JS/PC has to make.
It’ll be nice to see all the guys on the cusp get significant playing time today.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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Twitter: @JacsonBevens
Another interesting cut, in my opinion, is C Zane Taylor (cut by Bears),
Ranked 189th overall by CBS. Might be worth a look after the cuts tomorrow.
Bears Oline leavings?
Gotta be pretty desperate to dig into those
(I kid)
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 2, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course. The Bears are set at center now
They got this big athletic guy that the Seahawks didn’t want named Chris Spencer for depth now.
Garza is the Starter
Spencer is the backup for the moment. They moved Garza over there and never switched it back once he came in.
So yeah, Spencer is serving the depth special at the moment.
Why? Because PC and JS said so!
I bet Gonzalez will get picked up by someone.
They have a good group and in part it’s because they found some gems in Collie & Garçon. He’s been hurt and did well for a short while but isn’t what Collie is, and otherwise isn’t a good compliment to the corps.
Donal Brown was a bad pick and it always felt like it right from the get go. Jerry Hughes will also be cut, and again, it’s quite necessary.
Head of catering.
Nick Reed update!
Watched some of the second half of Bears/Browns last night. Nick Reed played almost the whole game on defense and repeatedly spin-moved his way to the QB. The broadcasters kept raving about him, although they were realistic about how he was a bubble guy, lacked size, was exploiting 3rd-string linemen, etc. But he was constantly in the Browns’ backfield all day. Made the key hit on a 4th-down goal line stop, too. Then he got a holding penalty on a would-be punt return touchdown.
He also played O-line! Not really. I haven’t seen a pro team do this before, but both he and Edwin Williams were sporting #70. I don’t know how many teams do that, but I’d never noticed before since I can’t remember the Seahawks doubling up numbers. The Bears also had a linebacker pick off a pass… while wearing #60. It just didn’t look right. I’m guessing the Bears have too many retired numbers to support a roster of 80/90 players in preseason. Sort of like how the Seahawks used #96 (for an example of a “sacred” number) in preseason and then reassigned that guy (Michael Bennett?) a new number when he made the regular season roster.
Oh yeah, and Reed survived the Bears’ first wave of cuts, but they have 13 more to go, so his fate is still up in the air…
We have three doubled numbers this season
67: David Howard, DT & Jimmy Wilderson, DE
69: Clinton McDonald, TE & Caz Piurowski DT
58: Dexter Davis DE & David Vobora LB
by EthelGemerman on Sep 2, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess this was a while ago
I remember seeing Caz having the same number as somebody else in training camp.
by EthelGemerman on Sep 2, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Wilkerson switched his number to 97 a couple of weeks ago (before we signed Howard)
Howard is #65 not #67. Vobora is #40. Piurowski was released before we traded for McDonald.
Actually, that was Nick Reed on O and D.
He’s really #140, but it’s/he’s so great he divided himself into two people.
You think Hawks will look at Clausen if he's avaliable?
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So Reebok's got a deal on Seahawks-branded shoes today:
http://www.reebok.com/US/product?modelId=359_MV002&articleId=J20650
On sale for $40. Coupon code “onsale25” drops it to $30 with free shipping. Not amazing shoes but might be decent and cheap game-day wear.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 11:31 AM PDT reply actions
Yeah, I like the look with the uniforms
but I’m not sure I could pull off the neon green.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I have some.
Nike made a model in 2008 I believe it was. Search for it and you should find it, not sure how available they are though.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Sep 2, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
damn
none in my size…i got the dressier ones though that reebok had a couple years ago.
by Bruiser89171 on Sep 2, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I would wear those
with a headset, khakis, and navy polo
by Stay Off the Flowers on Sep 2, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
They kinda look like Dad shoes
I might have to wear mine with a tucked-in t-shirt and high-waisted stone-washed jeans.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Could be worse
They have Bills and Rams and Patriots versions.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate the Raiders.
Hate is a strong word that I don’t use on people. But I do so hate the Raiders, and their “mystique” (drafting stupidly and praying), and their “nation” (welfare check-fueled merchandising behemoth), and their famous “black hole” (the geographic asshole of Northern California.) I truly wish that the league would stop imposing the penalty of playing them each pre-season.
(Whew).. .had to get that off my chest.
I’m looking forward to watching Vai Taua and to see if he can squeak onto the roster somehow (unlikely as it may be)…
How's that working out for you... being clever? - Tyler Durden
As a somebody born and raised in Oakland before moving to Seattle
Oakland is not the asshole of Northern California, it is the vag. Some parts are well trimmed and manicured with a few blemishes and all the dicks want to play there.
by Built2Spill on Sep 2, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is pretty much the thrust of things.
If you're not sure if there's a quarterback controversy, there is one.
by shams on Sep 2, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gallery and Z.Miller named captains for the game:
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 11:53 AM PDT reply actions
I have been playing Madden 12 Franchise Mode lately
And Jeron Johnson developed into the high 70’s well above Bigby and LeGree. Is it a sign of things to come?
Also Franchise Mode this year is amazing. Madden 12 is finally a good game. (lots of small detail problems though)
by The Great Googly on Sep 2, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions
Superstar mode is awful yet again
But Franchise mode this year is amazing.
by Hancock.Brett on Sep 2, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
That's too bad.
I understand that with a game that needs to be re-released every 12 months, they only have so much time to make major changes to one aspect of the game and small details elsewhere. However, it just doesn’t feel worth $60 until you get the full package. ESPN NFL 2K5 still has things that Madden doesn’t have. It’s no wonder EA Sports pushed to obtain exclusive NFL rights.
Franchise mode is incredible.
Undefeated in 8 games so far!
Still wishing I could have Baldwin on the squad though. Anyone know when roster updates take effect?
Ka-Kaaa!
by JerryNice on Sep 2, 2011 1:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If you have XBL, you can DL roster updates that people put up. I don't have the game so I don't know if there are any yet though.
It’s usually best to go that route as they wind up more accurate than EA’s. For example, they had Joe Pawelek on the squad forever last year.
There's already been 2 roster updates
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
I'm just updating the roster straight from XBL...
And Balmer’s still on the team, Jennings, no Baldwin, etc.
Did I miss an update along the way?
Ka-Kaaa!
No, the last roster update came before Baldwin was cut
and Jennings was traded.
They probably won’t update it again until next week.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Has anyone at Tiburon (is that who develops Madden?) ever even played Superstar mode?
It’s not even really a mode, it’s like half of a thought.
Tiburon only gives a shit about adding new bullet points to the box each year
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Yeah, i was escited about Supertar mode on '09 until i played it.
it’s pretty sucky. what’s with the lousy “perspective” views that you can’t change. and control was bad too. i just create a dude in Franchise and do it that way…
Beast Mode, fo' real.
Yeah, they seemed to go for a lot of big picture things (such as expanding Franchise mode).
But with that comes some lack of attention to smaller details which is a bit frustrating.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Sep 2, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the empty stands are partiularly atrocious
I really enjoyed winning the NFC championship game at Qwest Field (they didnt rename it) and the stands were barely a 1/4 full.
Even the Superbowl is half empty. How do you mess something like that up?
by The Great Googly on Sep 2, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Franchise Mode
Last time I played a Madden franchise was on Xbox and it had this weekly Tony Bruno radio show that I found really annoying. I don’t know if they still have that, but my point is that I’m out of touch; the last Madden game I own still has Jerry Rice on the Seahawks’ roster.
Without going into a full review to get me caught up on all the years I missed: what’s better about franchise this year (compared to last year)?
Have any of you guys seen any career ending injuries in this one?
I haven’t, though I don’t know if that’s because computer teams put them on IR or not. Kind of annoying (and I don’t see why they would) if they took that out.
no but earl thomas broke his collar bone in week 3 of my game and we've lost 2 in a row since
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Williams was out for 7 weeks..
I don’t want to IR him b/c PLAYOFFS BABY.
Tate is doing ok, but he’s no BMW in Madden.
Ka-Kaaa!
Madden is a 60 dollar roster update
Nothing innovative. No competition to push it’s limits. Crap. Every year.
Cyclops there. Cyclops there. Cyclops there. Turrets. Moon buggies. Oh my holy crap. Surveillance doe's. I hate those
This year is much better than last year because they had to make it better in case the lockout went on
I got the game for $60 and it included a $20 giftcard to amazon.com, I sold my old Madden game for $20 so $20 for an update isn’t a big deal to me
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, same.
20 bucks that went directly toward my Skyrim preorder.
Finally rid of perpetual losers Craig Terrill and Kelly Jennings!
Follow the llama tail
by Wayward Llama on Sep 2, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Since this is a Free Agent thread...
I am a free agent looking for a fantasy football money league $30+ to join … reply if you have an opening
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions
Im running 2 different ones acually.
They are both PPR/IDP
The standard draft one is $25 and its basically all set and the draft is on Sunday@4pm
The other is a $50 league also PPR/IDP but it is an auction draft and Im not 100% sure I will be able to fill it up by the Monday draft time. its currently 5/12 although I could cut it off at 10.
by The Great Googly on Sep 2, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmm... Are there 2 DL, 2 DB and 2 D's for the IDPs? I am currently in another league with 0.5 points per reception, never done a full point
I am commissioner of a league that is drafting Monday at 6, I’ll definitely think about the $25 one though…
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The $50 one is 2 DL, 2 DB, 2 LB
The $25 one however is just DL, DB, LB
Both are 0.5 point PPR. a full point is just too much. Its also on yahoo
by The Great Googly on Sep 2, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
If I don't find one closer to $50 with a draft either tonight, Saturday or Sunday I'll probably join your $25 league if that's ok
My email is deejaysquishy@yahoo.com
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Myron Rolle is being released today
I can’t believe that guy was one of the last picks of the 6th round in the2010 draft. I thought he was the shit back in 2008.
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:17 PM PDT reply actions
No...
In the 2008 season game versus the University of Miami Hurricanes, Seminoles defensive coordinator Mickey Andrews remarked that Rolle played the best and most complete game he has ever seen a safety play at Florida State University in his 25 years of coaching. Rolle had 4 tackles (2 touchdown saving tackles), 1 tackle for loss, 4 pass breakups, 1 sack, 2 quarterback hurries and 3 critical 3rd down stops.
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. Thought it was confusion.
Antrel is also a safety and used to play for the Cardinals (so we saw a lot of him).
Yeah I saw that Rolle's smirky smile when being interviewed about the Hurricanes and Shapiro
What’s up with Florida Rolles? Samari… Antrel… Myron…
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I always thought it was funny he had a headband on
When I was in highschool I collected headbands… had over 50 of them
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He became a rhodes scholar
now he wants a uniform with leather elbow patches and wants the game to be more cerebral like soccer or model united nations. (which, oddly enough, is the exact recipe for fantasy football)
"skill players" get to pass, catch and run with the football as a consolation for not being man enough to play on the line
I remember readin about him before that draft.
And I remember seeing how smart he was but also really good at football. Would have been cool if he had stuck.
I think sitting out the 2009-10 season to study at Oxford really hurt his draft stock
Rhodes Scholar
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
So does anyone think Forsett is really in any kind of danger of being cut?
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
I heard Salk saying he might be gone but I just don't see it.
I wouldn’t be shocked if he wasn’t re-signed next season but I can’t imagine cutting a guy that’s cheap, talented, and a great team guy.
Can't see it
He’s cheap, flexible and able to backup Lynch in ways Leon can’t. Also a pretty good locker room guy (organized player-led OTAs).
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Possibly trade bait....
But I don’t think so. I would think that they like the depth they have at running back.
Wont happen this year
But I doubt he is back next year.
by The Great Googly on Sep 2, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Also in regards to roster cuts,
are Durham and Baldwin any good on kickoffs? Because if not, will we have enough gunners (isn’t that what they’re called?) to flesh out a good special teams unit? My guess at those 10+ guys is: Wright, Vobora/McCoy, Malcolm Smith, Dexter Davis, Obo, Maxwell?, Bigby/Pinkard, Kam, Legree/Johnson, Anthony McCoy?, Byrd?…..
Okay, this is a good enough list – I feel pretty confident, then, that Durham or Baldwin will make the 6 even if they can’t contribute on kickoffs.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
I think Baldwin looked decent as a returner
but Durham doesn’t seem to be built like one.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like Jim Tressel got hired by the Colts
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:41 PM PDT reply actions
Loved Farrar's comment about the move
Tressel a review consultant? Isn’t this the guy who’s an expert on not seeing what’s going on right in front of him?
Being a huge tOSU fan, I'm a little disappointed to see this.
I guess he’s not all that broken up about screwing up the program… showing up with his broken down Carr (as in Lloyd, former UM coach) at Browns camp, Bengals camp.. Woody, Coop retired. JT should do the same.
How's that working out for you... being clever? - Tyler Durden
O'Dowd is the first true freshman in USC history to start a game at center for the Trojans
He was also considered the 3rd best center in the draft, but went undrafted, I wonder what kind of signing bonus the Cardinals gave him… Their line is comparable to ours isn’t it?
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by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Sep 2, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Comparable how?
Their line isn’t very good (and not in a “has yet to gel” way like ours. Theirs is just bad).
I liked him in college
but he had health issues.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
The Falcons waived The Sausage King of Chicago Adam Froman
I doubt we’ll take a look though.
Proactive-like-Nonstop
FIELDGULLS
Deandre McDaniel was waived by the Saints too.
Interesting, though probably means everyone passing him over was a good thing.
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He's not the only A. Froman who was a one-hit wonder....
I was going to play QB in Atlanta, but then I got high
I was going to sit on the bench and learn the job, but instead I got high.
Now I’m an undrafted free agent, and I know why…..
Because I got high, because I got high, because I got hiiiiiiiigh.
by J.L. White on Sep 2, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stanley Havilli cut by Eagles
Anyone get a look at how he played in the preseason? I remember Carroll talking about how much they liked him in the post-draft press conference
Apparently Pete Carroll doesn’t like how Charlie Whitehurst holds a clipboard
Eagles fans are saying he barely even showed up, didn't get on the field much at all
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
any rumors on palmer to seattle for a 2nd and 3rd round pick?
we’re considering it bunk on the jungle atm, supposedly espn is teasing it
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
suspect this is some crap floria at PFT started
and espn is teasing it because they ran the story again this morning on their radio network.
sounds like bs to me.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
There's nothing odd about the timing
Palmer gets the most leverage by reporting, unprepared, before the regular season and demanding his $11.5M salary. The Bengals could either pay him that amount or release/trade him.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course. Why wouldn't he?
Only an idiot would cut him outright though. Someone is willing to take him over Carolina.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Crap. That means Mike Brown's going to cut him, doesn't it.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
by Johnny Slick on Sep 2, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if anyone would claim his current contract, even the Seahawks
Thus if he was cut I think he would clear waivers. Palmer could also say to particular teams: If you claim me I’ll just retire
Apparently Pete Carroll doesn’t like how Charlie Whitehurst holds a clipboard
No he wouldn't
Players with more than four accrued seasons don’t go through waivers.
Formerly Known As Vasilii
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 2, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh. Reeeeally.
Well, that just don’t make no sense. But hey, you’re the crazy Dutchman who reads the CBA…
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
That's how it's always been
Formerly Known As Vasilii
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 3, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
How would we know?
But there’s been a lot of nonsense floated about. Don’t really want him at that price
Formerly Known As Vasilii
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 2, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
you all have access to local radio etc
i’m in the midwest, anything seattle i get comes from the net =)
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Yop, Beekers is listening in on his shortwave
Radio Moscow.
I am too young for this whole "radio" thing
It belongs to an older generation.
Formerly Known As Vasilii
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 2, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like TV, only no video and even more frequent annoying ads and personalities
by IslandHawk on Sep 2, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This sums it up perfectly.
Most of it is an abomination.
If you're not sure if there's a quarterback controversy, there is one.
If we were going to spend that much on Palmer.
I think I’d rather use those picks to move up in the 1st round instead.
Do you really wanna see Palmer behind this line?
I don’t remember Palmer being known for his running.
Yes I have a beer in my hand... and I'm ready to watch the Hawks smash the 49ers in week 1.
dude has no wheels,
never had, never has, never will
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
No. Not at all.
The best thing about our current lineup of QB is that we’re not counting on them surviving the year. I’d want to get the OL play settled before we put an old, expensive QB behind it.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That's exactly how I feel.
I can’t really get excited or depressed about him because he’s just there to get pummeled until our line gets together and/or we get our QB of the future. I’m liking the signing more by the day.
by the other side on Sep 2, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But I wouldn't say its impossible for the OL to get settled in another month or so
and for Tavaris to play himself out of the job while Palmer adjusts to the offensive scheme.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a ton of variables there.
But no, not impossible. Also, I may be completely off base, but given his recent behavior and age I just don’t see him as the long term solution. 31 isn’t old but it’s late prime for a lot of QBs.
by the other side on Sep 2, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Benne just posted a nice piece about how QBs don't really decline with age:
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2011/8/30/2393598/how-quarterbacks-age
If he’s able to stay healthy and has the desire to play, he’ll likely have a few years left (at least 4-5).
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Great link, thanks.
I think part of it is that my opinion of him as a person is dropping. I probably shouldn’t let that change my estimation of him as a player.
by the other side on Sep 2, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Palmer's a cure-all for the team
or even just the QB position, but it probably would represent a good upgrade and may stabilize the position for the next few years. I’d rather have that than try to depend on getting the top QB in 2012.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 2, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You're probably right.
It just feels like another stop-gap. It helps when I remember that you can’t just go to the “Future Franchise Quarterback Tree” and pick one. They should really come up with that shit. It would prove useful.
by the other side on Sep 2, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Having a good pocket presence is MUCH more important than being fast in avoiding getting sacked.
Michael Vick is the fastest QB in the game and got hit ALL THE TIME last season; the “original” Peyton Manning was (and still is) as fast as a statue — and rarely had stability along his offensive line — but rarely got sacked because he knew the perfect time to get rid of the ball.
I haven’t watched nearly enough Bengals games to know if Palmer has a good enough pocket presence to make up for his slow wheels, but he has survived the last two seasons with a fairly-anonymous o-line.
Exhibit A in pocket presence: Dan Marino
Also had the quickest release EVAR but that guy never got sacked.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Border conspiracy theory
Tressel is being hired at an unassuming position but he’s their next head coach if Caldwell doesn’t pan out.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
Front office will probably keep him around then, to hide their mistakes.
I don’t think much of how they’ve run things.
If you're not sure if there's a quarterback controversy, there is one.
Pork Chop got IRed.
Serves him right for signing with the stupid Cardinals!
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
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- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
