Seahawks News and Rumors: Monday Night Open Thread
by Danny Kelly on Sep 5, 2011 7:15 PM PDT
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As Thomas pointed out earlier, a few things worth mentioning tonight, including some number changes for some Seahawks. Per Curtis Crabtree, CB Brandon Browner (changed) from #37 to #39. S Jeron Johnson from #35 to #32 and WR Kris Durham from #84 to #16.
Tackle James carpenter worked at LG in practice a little today, ostensibly with the Robert Gallery injury in the back of the Seahawks mind. Per John Boyle, Carpenter noted "I'm pretty comfortable, because I played on the left side my whole life until I got here, so it's pretty comfortable for me." Said Pete Carroll: "You have to develop all the flexibility that you can. We'll be in the game with seven or eight offensive linemen, so guys have to play multiple spots. So we did move some guys around today. (Carpenter) did play guard a little bit today."
Eric Williams gives us some interesting nuggets from Pete Carroll's press conference in tonight's story, including:
--WR Isaiah Stanback was dropped from the injured reserve list and is no longer with the team.
--At 6-5, 317 pounds, offensive tackle Jarriel King out of South Carolina is a guy Carroll says has tremendous potential. King has an ankle injury and did not practice today. "We're excited about the future for him," Carroll said. "He played right tackle. And he had been a left side tackle at South Carolina in the SEC and did very well there. We think this is a really good move for the future, and we think this is a guy we can develop."
The Seahawks finished out their 8-man practice squad, for a day at least, and it now comprises:
WR Owen Spencer
WR Ricardo Lockette
G/C Brent Osborne
DB Ron Parker
RB Vai Taua
CB Josh Pinkard
DE/DT Maurice Fountain
DE/TE Jameson Konz
A few surprises on the list, including Ron Parker (over Mark LeGree), Brent Osborne, who had been released last week, and Maurice Fountain, who is essentially a 28 year old rookie with not a whole lot of upside. The way the Seahawks have comprised this practice squad leaves you scratching your head a little, but I'm sure they have a method to their madness.
I'm stoked to see Vai Taua on that list -- I was and still am higher on him than I was on Thomas Clayton, and he must have shown the Seahawks enough to have them keep him around. Spencer and Lockette are great practice squad receivers in my mind - both toolsy and big, with a lot of potential upside. It's also good to see Pinkard stick with the team.
OK, now discuss.
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Al Woods to the outside, eh?
Makes some sense, he’s primarily a run-stopper and played nose with the Bucs. I guess he could play both the 1 and the 5 for us,
Wash connection! I hope one of these Dline fliers takes.
Formerly Known As Vasilii
What happened to our draft picks?
I’m really surprise/dissapointed to not see Levingston and McGreen on the PS. Just heard, so I haven’t done any searches to see if they were claimed by other teams. Did we just not like them that much after seeeing them for a full camp?
I love the Taua move though. That guy was a workhorse at Nevada. Very solid, bigger back. Could come into play later this year.
A 7th round pick not making the team is hardly unheard of
Though Pep performed well in the preseason so it is a bit odd. They must like Fountain much better. No idea why Konz would stick around over Pep. He’s just a freak athlete with no position, those are a dime a dozen.
LeGree (McGreen?) is a whole other kettle of fish. Who knows?
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Pete and John pick one mid-to-late round player per year to fuck with
They draft them a little high, let them think they’ll make the team and then give them the boot at the last minute. Yup, that’s probably it. That’s how they get their giggles, the sick fucks.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 5, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm tired of seeing that name.
Go away already, KONZ. And I agree…I would have much rather have Pep on the PS.
The only thought I have about the QBOTF is how big Carroll's smile would be if he snatched Andrew Luck away from Jim Harbaugh.
Follow the llama tail
by Wayward Llama on Sep 5, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
King has an ankle injury and did not practice today.
oooooooooooof course he does.
The only thought I have about the QBOTF is how big Carroll's smile would be if he snatched Andrew Luck away from Jim Harbaugh.
Follow the llama tail
Bring us your infants, your sick, your poor
Especially bring us your injured, we like those
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
So Carpenter practices at guard
And a new tackle is added. A very good move, all things considered. When I see Carpenter, I see a guard (massive power, but with less agility than an OT).
Not saying that Carpenter won’t be our RT, but if he works out better at LG, it’s all good.
I'm most interested in the movement of the line.
Carpenter at guard? So…Polumbus at RT to start the season?
Oh. Forgot. That's fine. Don't whack me.
by grinch11 on Sep 5, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
weird.
Are there no Italian Americans in the NW?
Fuggedaboutit would be like saying “AyeYahYahYahAyeYahYahYah” in regards to a Native American. A littel trite. No offense. I live in Brooklyn, there’s so much more to make fun of these days. Manscaping, faux hawks, leasedBMWs with racing exhaust, bad auto tune music, Overprint shirts etc…
Shit, sorry…Now I’m getting all dark. Carry on.
by vertigoman on Sep 5, 2011 10:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not really, no
The PNW is pretty culturally neutral and we don’t have the same sorts of ethnic pockets that came from 19th and early 20th century immigration.
The first time I visited NY, I was surprised that many Italian Americans seemed to be the sort caricatures of Italian Americans that you’d see on TV. Also, my last name ends in a vowel but the first time I saw a cannoli was when I was visiting grad schools on the East coast.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 5, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The first time I saw a cannoli was this May.
It was (not) a very spicy meataball.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
by Johnny Slick on Sep 5, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You know
They actually have Cannoli’s down at Pikes Place, my Italian body about lost it when he saw them, too bad they were like $6 per
Make It Matter
by Seahawk Junky on Sep 6, 2011 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Polumbus isn't their road-grader type of RT
Dunno who would be. Maybe Giacomini.
I’m surprised to see Gallery practice at guard, to be honest. He’s just getting use to playing his new position. Did he disappoint so bad they’re already giving up on him at the position they drafted him to play? I didn’t figure that’d happen, but maybe they’re just having a look and he’s going back to RT when Gallery comes back (and he’s still likely to play, I hear)
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You are surprised Gallery practiced at guard?
You mean Carpenter?
Gallery did get hurt, so it could just be temporary, but Carpenter did get destroyed out on the edge, and now they are bringing in Jarriel King to play RT?
They're bringing another team's UDFA leavings to pick up the slack of a 1st rounder? Seems unlikely.
I type Gallery a lot when I mean Carpenter. Don’t ask me why.
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
How about...
Okung, Carpenter, Moffitt / Unger , Gallery, King/Giocomini?
Didn’t Moffitt play a little center?
Yes but Unger back at RG?
If Carpenter ends up being a great LG I’d be happy with that.
by Redzone59 on Sep 5, 2011 7:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It doesn't make sense to have your rookie RT practice at LG one week before the regular season,
unless you are going to move him there.
If they weren’t going to move him, why not just have a backup practice at LG for a couple weeks while Gallery is hurt?
It doesn't make any sense to have your rookie play a position he didn't play in college
And only have him practice it one week before the season kicks off. It’s not happening.
I would think the rationale is too see if Carpenter can flash the versatility they want out of their linemen.
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
So you think Carpenter plays RT in the season opener?
Then who is going to play LG if he is the practicing there?
Gallery
Or Polumbus. Not the story said Carpenter worked at LG “a little”, meaning most or a significant amount of snaps are going to someone else, likely McQuistan who has played a lot of first-team snaps at RG this preseason.
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Gah.
This offensive line. Can we please just get ONE SEASON with a reasonably healthy o-line. I swear it’s karma for having such a good one for so long and never winning the super bowl.
The only thought I have about the QBOTF is how big Carroll's smile would be if he snatched Andrew Luck away from Jim Harbaugh.
Follow the llama tail
by Wayward Llama on Sep 5, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right.
I skimmed over the “little” part.
He makes me nervous at RT, so I guess I got a little ahead of myself with some wishful thinking.
I thought Carpenter's experience is on the left side
Tackle at Bama and guard at the senior bowl.
Senior Bowl switch was just for the senior bowl though
He flashed versatility there and that’s one of the reason we liked him, but he never played guard with any regularity.
Formerly Known As Vasilii
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 6, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
so when you think of Carpenter
You get him confused with a guy who was drafted as a tackle but busted until moved inside to try guard?
Huh. I can’t imagine why.
by TrynZushi on Sep 5, 2011 9:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably just looking at Carpenter at LG
Considering their recent O-line history, not a bad idea, really.
But Gallery’s been iffy at the position, especially in pass-blocking. It may be that they’re still searching for the right combination of players on the line.
You copied my reply
1 minute before I posted it.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Sep 5, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That makes me feel better.
for some reason
Honestly, it is kinda odd. The bulk of the snaps went to Clayton
I wasn’t super high on Clayton in any case, but it was almost like they were trying to hide Taua from other teams. Given his 40 time I find that strange, but he sure didn’t get many touches over the course of the preseason.
Hawks are so set at RB, they could be a little flippant about it..
They just needed someone to simulate a running game against 2nd team defenses and Clayton did just that. I think you are right about hiding Taua from other teams, although he needs time to develop as well.
It's also a pure numbers situation, I think.
The only way they could keep Clayton was if he made the team. It looked to me like PC gave him a long look to see if there was any way he could justify keeping him on the 46 man roster and in the end there just wasn’t. Taua OTOH can be stashed away on the PS. Maybe PC was hiding him, although I think teams send scouts out to watch training camp practices as well so that’s of limited use. Closer to the truth, he was not drafted in spite of a great college career and in the end the Seahawks decided that career gave them reason enough to PS him for a year or two.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
OT: I'd like to announce that I'm going to go watch Curb Your Enthusiasm...
and recommend it if you’ve never watched. Hilarious.
Song of the day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdCsiwqVxWE
Enjoy.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
So... why was Stanback taken off the IR?
I mean, outside of the fact that he’s simply not good enough to make the team and his career as a football player is probably over? I don’t really get why he was put there in the first place but is there some kind of roster limit issue I’m not thinking of?
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Can't just cut an injured player
You have to reach an injury settlement, maybe that was taking a while so they had to IR him first.
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, that makes more sense.
Although realistically, his career is still done.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
So did they reach a settlement with Colin Cole then?
I was wondering how they released him when he was injured.
Presumably, yes
Unless the injury is non-football related you can not release an injured player without agreeing to an injury settlement. Or rather you can, but if you do the player can file a grievance he is pretty likely to win.
Basically an injury settlement has the team and player/agent agree upon a number of games the player “is likely” to miss before he can go back to work, and the team picks up the check for those games. It’s not counted towards the cap as far as I know. Read more on the pretty fascinating but fairly unknown process here. It’s a very inexact science
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
like flying to the moon
did it once, can’t do it again
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Sep 5, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
he's been injured, really, for three straight years
training camp has it out for him
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Sep 5, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Just plain weird.
I think the owner of Under Armour is a Maryland Alum and supplies the unies…trying to compete with Phil Knight and Oregon…not even close.
SERIOUS?!
I think they’re the best unis in college football, honestly.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
Not to be inflammatory or anything.
But probably to be knee-jerk.
"It was a dream come true to be the quarterback in Seattle; Bigger and better than anything I could have dreamed of." -Matthew Hasselbeck
Well I guess if you are playing defense on the right side
Okung and Carpenter would look like a big load on the left side
In an open thread,FFB sort of way
Who are the worst defenses in the NFL,imma thinking Dal,Hou,Cin and Oak,any thoughts?
I've got the Cleveland defense.
Just cause they are playing the Bengals.
Futurely known as BundyBundyBear (Aussie homer)
I am considering the Browns as my survivor league pick
Weirdly enough it looks like one of the most gimme games of the weekend, unless Manningface is declare out.
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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 5, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That is exactly what I thought.
I picked the Browns in a survivor league. Not like the Browns will be a good pick all the time. Maybe a good strategy will be to just pick whoever the Bengals are playing. Maybe Mike Brown is in a high stakes survivor league and is why he screwed is own team. Genius.
meh
almost a reply, and it was pretty on-topic so not as hard a fail as if TB had posted something waaaay up there. You’re good, soldier! Get back to the fight!
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Sep 5, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
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