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Seahawks Season Preview: The Offense

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With the regular season about to get underway, every single NFL writer is doing his "So-and-So Team Preview" article, --beat reporters and bloggers alike. I thought I'd do something different. Just kidding. I couldn't think of anything different to do. So here's my version of a Seahawks Season Preview. It's all about your subjective point of view in the writing game, isn't it? 

The Seahawks have settled on a 53-man roster for the time being and right now the offense comprises 26 players. They are:

QB: Tarvaris Jackson, Charlie Whitehurst, Josh Portis
RB: Marshawn Lynch, Leon Washington, Justin Forsett
QB: Michael Robinson
WR: Sidney Rice, Mike Williams, Ben Obomanu, Golden Tate, Kris Durham, Doug Baldwin
TE: Zach Miller, Anthony McCoy, Dominique Byrd
LT: Russell Okung, Tyler Polumbus
LG: Robert Gallery, Paul McQuistan
C:   Max Unger, Lemuel Jeanpierre
RG: John Moffitt
RT: James Carpenter, Breno GiacominiJarriel King

Roster Surprises: 

First off, it's a surprise that four undrafted free agents made this team's initial roster. There were a lot of NFL clubs out there that kept zero undrafted free agents. Doug Baldwin, Jarriel King, and Josh Portis are the three represented on the offense.

Baldwin may be a guy that gets a lot of playing time this season. He's a sure-handed slot receiver that can return punts and kicks. He'll sit behind Ben Obomanu and Golden Tate until one or both of them start to play badly or face an injury but he runs crisp routes and seems to catch pretty much everything thrown his way. It's amazing how those two things can be so utterly elusive to some NFL receivers. Regardless, he's been solid, not spectacular, in the preseason, and could find himself getting snaps. Pete Carroll mentioned something yesterday on KJR along the lines that he'd be seeing action on some third down sets to start out. 

Portis is a long-term developmental project. He was a vagabond in high school and college so the Seahawks will try to give him some stability. Making the 53-man roster is a good start. He's fleet afoot and throws a pretty good-looking ball. He showed some promise in 4 preseason games and apparently it was enough to give him a highly valuable spot on the team.

Jarriel King is an undrafted free agent out of South Carolina that signed with the New York Giants once free agency started. He is a physical specimen that has had some off-field issues, but overall has a lot of potential. When you search the Field Gulls picture database for photos of King you get five photos and two of those five give you a glimpse of the 'nasty' that he might bring to the Seahawks organization (though perhaps picking fights with veteran leaders of your team (Justin Tuck, giving King a talking to) might be ill advised and a reason he was let go... I dunno).

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Moving on. Dominique Byrd is somewhat a surprise. I doubt many would have guessed at the end of last year that Byrd would make the team, and after the Hawks went out and got Zach Miller in free agency, his chances looked even bleaker. But, alas, John Carlson and Cameron Morrah's injuries opened up an opportunity for The Byrdman to buy himself another chance in the NFL. He has looked excellent in the preseason, and showed in camp that he seems to have a nose for the endzone. Byrd caught 7 passes for 85 yards and a TD in three games of preseason action and could figure into the Seahawks tight end-heavy passing game. 

Past that, Paul McQuistan and Lemuel Jeanpierre are surprising a bit because they're both relatively obscure and have bounced around the NFL, but the line needs depth and these guys are apparently the best of the lower echelon. 

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Key Additions (and my expectations for them):

The Seahawks key additions are, um, let's see... Of the probable starters for game one on Sunday, only two were around a year ago: Mike Williams and Max Unger. Two out of eleven were starting one year ago when the Seahawks opened against the 49ers and one of them went on IR a few days later. So more like one out of eleven. So who are the key additions... pretty much everybody? 

Really, Tarvaris Jackson is the main guy to watch because he plays the most important position. If he falters badly, the team will struggle (duh). If he plays middling, well, that's pretty much what they're expecting him to do, so that's what I'm hoping for. If he can limit turnovers and get the ball to other new additions Sidney Rice and Zach Miller, the Seahawks offense will hopefully improve from last year.

Glowing review huh? Well, the bottom line is that I have very tempered expectations for this offense. Obviously, on paper, the Seahawks got better (and I think will continue to get better and one day be very good... just not yet). Combining Russell Okung, Robert Gallery, Max Unger, John Moffitt, and James Carpenter on a line together makes a man feel good inside. Until that man sees them play together after a lockout shortened offseason and then a little while later he realizes that large men hitting each other with a great amount of physical force can often result in injuries. 

This inexperience playing together coupled with inescapable injuries means the Seahawks won't likely win the rushing title this year and will probably give up a lot of sacks. That means their passing game will not be as good as we're all hoping, even with the Twin Towers (Mike Williams and Sidney Rice) running routes with Zach Miller and Anthony McCoy. 

Here's the problem -- and this was pointed out by Greg Cosell in a fantasy football podcast that Beekers forwarded to me recently (and I'm paraphrasing): Tarvaris Jackson has a mandate, from Pete Carroll, to avoid turnovers. This means that he's a little more gun-shy about throwing the quick pass and chucking it up downfield (this also might be more in his nature anyway). Because the Seahawks will likely face a lot of pressure from the defense due to poor line protection, Tarvaris Jackson won't have a lot of time to throw the ball and because he's gun shy about letting it rip downfield he's going to get sacked a lot or hit his hot read in the flats constantly.

In addition to this, the Hawks top two receivers, Rice and Williams, aren't elite at getting separation and so require a quarterback to thread the needle a little more. This will further hinder Jackson's ability to make quick throws into tight coverage. All this means  that yards per attempt will be low. Sidney Rice and Mike Williams probably won't have huge years. I'm a huge Debbie Downer.

The good news is that despite all this, I'm still very optimistic about where this team is going! Sidney Rice, Mike Williams, Golden Tate, Kris Durham, Doug Baldwin..., hell even Ben Obomanu isn't that old yet. Zach Miller, Anthony McCoy, Leon Washington, -- all these guys are young playmakers and all have tons of potential. There's some talent on the offensive line and by and large they're pretty young.

It's cliche to say that it all starts on the lines so I won't. I think in reality the Seahawks offensive issues are going to stem from a combination of bad offensive line play coupled with bad quarterback play (duh). It won't be all on Jackson and it won't be all because the line can't protect long enough.

I'm pretty certain that the offensive line play will improve throughout the year and exponentially over the next few years with the nucleus we've started assembling. The quarterback position, well, I'm not as optimistic about, but my opinion on this doesn't mean it's out of the realm of possibility for Tarvaris Jackson to thrive here. If he can find his groove in the offense and get comfortable making quick throws and quick decisions, he certainly has the weapons to succeed. My guess is that eventually, he'll settle in and start making some plays but I don't see this offense scoring a ton of points, at least not early in the season.

The Running Backs:

I like our backfield. Marshawn Lynch is a power-back in a mid-sized back's body. I'm interested to see how he fares this season with a new line. Lynch has his detractors but I'm not one of them -- he breaks tackles and is always moving forward. If he can cut down on fumbles this year he'll be a very solid option as a 'feature' back. 

Leon Washington -- I'll talk about him more in a little bit. Justin Forsett: I like this guy. He's extremely short. The linebackers can't see him when he gets the ball and all of a sudden he's four or five yards downfield. He's good at catching passes out of the backfield and he's sturdy. He's a good change-of-pace, third down back, and he's cheap. 

Michael Robinson: I like MikeRob. He provides something the Seahawks don't have a lot of and that's leadership. He's a college quarterback that converted to fullback. That's weird. But he's versatile, and the Seahawks love that trait. The jury is out on whether he's a very good lead blocker so I'll be watching this closely in 2011, but overall I think Robinson plays a key role on the team.

The Receivers: 

Like the running back group, I'm pretty optimistic about the Seahawks receivers. Injuries and injury concerns aside (because injuries happen to every team), the Seahawks depth at the position looks pretty good. When Mike Williams, Sidney Rice, and Ben Obomanu were hurt for pretty much the whole preseason, we got to see guys like Golden Tate, Kris Durham, and Doug Baldwin hold their own. Even if Williams, Rice and Obomanu stay hurt for an extended period of time, the group is young and talented, with a lot of future upside. I wouldn't have said the same about Brandon Stokley, Deion Branch, Ruvell Martin, TJ Houshmenzadeh, or even Deon Butler- players that seemed to be at the apex of their abilities (as for Deon Butler, his physical limitations made me think his upside wasn't very high).  

The Tight Ends:

I like all three of our tight ends a lot. They will all be used a lot. They will be used together as well. That's all I have to say about that.

The Offensive Line: 

I'm not really worried about our offensive line, though I probably should be based on their preseason performance. I think with a little more gameplanning and better execution, things won't look as dire.

It will be interesting to see if they decide to move James Carpenter to the left guard position. Backup right tackle Breno Giacomini would get his shot at a starting gig. If this move happened, it's unclear where Robert Gallery would play. John Moffitt has been pretty alright so far in the preseason. Max Unger has been mostly under the radar. Russell Okung needs to stop being hurt all the time. Tyler Polumbus is a good swing tackle but can also play guard.

If you're confused by my writing it's because the Seahawks offensive line is pretty up in the air right now and versatility is king. I feel like continuity is going to be elusive this season, but that's ultimately the goal. If they can sacrifice that continuity a little this year to get a read on where each player is best suited, then so be it.

The Quarterbacks:

I'm going to keep it short here: I'm willing to give Tarvaris Jackson the benefit of the doubt and hope he can find a groove in this offense. I am confident that if he can't, Charlie Whitehurt could step in and play that middling game-manager quarterback role for the Seahawks. We'll see, I guess. Neither is a game-changer but I have to think that they're both more of rentals than the long term solution.

Possible Breakout Players:

I love Anthony McCoy. Yeah yeah, he drops some passes once in a while. But he's also 6'5, 260, is solid in the passing game and can block well on the line (in the preseason, anyway). We haven't had a tight end like that in a while (naw, Chris Baker doesn't count). This kind of legitimate dual threat type of player has the potential to work really, really well with Zach Miller in two tight end sets. Imagine you're the defense. Imagine trying to figure out whether it will be Zach Miller or Anthony McCoy releasing off the line to catch passes or stay in to run-block. Then imagine yourself getting burned for a touchdown whilst you're still trying to figure out whether it's going to be a pass or a run. 

We've talked about Golden Tate a lot. He's very talented. Hasn't proven that on the field yet. That's where I'll leave it here. I'm rooting for him.

Leon Washington. I think Leon Washington is going to have a good year. And I'm not talking about a shitty Russell Crowe movie where he hangs out on a vineyard or something. I'm talking about Leon becoming the Seahawks most dynamic and explosive running back. I really hate to put numbers on anything, especially considering how poorly the first-team offense played in the preseason, but I think Washington has the potential to be the Seahawks most effective back. He's a three tool guy -- he can run between the tackles, he can bounce it outside, and he is good in the passing attack. Make it four, he's decent at returning kicks too. Mostly I'm excited to see him in the run game though. 

That's all I got on the offense. I'll follow up with the defense tomorrow y'all. Thoughts? Was I too harsh?

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Great write-up as always, Danny

My one thing, and this is something I’ve noticed with a lot of the other writers here as well – was I the only one who thought Butler was having a pretty decent year before he got hurt? I remember him making a respectable contribution from the WR position when he actually did get snaps. Is that the haze of memory confounding me?

by Kingdomer on Sep 9, 2011 8:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I think the idea of Deon Butler was better than the reality.

That’s not to say he can’t improve, but his speed didn’t translate well to the field (he wasn’t a great deep threat) and he isn’t physical enough to get off the jam at this point. He’s not good in the run after the catch generally. He then developed the dropsies last season before he got hurt. All this sort of soured me on him. Just my opinion of course — he’s obviously got talent but I don’t think we’ve seen him put it to use (suppose the same can be said of Golden Tate but I’d take Tate’s potential over Butlers).

Naturally, if he were catching passes from a good-to-elite quarterback, he’d probably make my analysis look stupid.

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by Danny Kelly on Sep 9, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bates didn't use him right..

Bates had Butler running bubble screens becasue he’s fast, great right? No, not when Butler is a very small 5’10’ 180lbs. He excelled when he was able to get down field, Matt had time, and they were able to hook up. Once our line comes around, which I’m hoping to be sooner than later, I see Butler being a legit deep threat and not a bubble screen man.

by UWhawk on Sep 9, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep -- I wrote a series of articles about this.

Here, here, and Thomas wrote one here. Think you’re correct, in a nutshell.

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by Danny Kelly on Sep 9, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Touche.

Although I do agree to had too many drops leading up to the injury. It will be very interesting to see what happens after week 6 when he comes of the PUP list, will PC/JC place him on the IR? Cut him? Personally, I hope they can make room in an already crowded and talented position.

by UWhawk on Sep 9, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Recent PFW "Way We Hear It" suggests team is actually high on Butler.

They get great scoops, btw.

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by shams on Sep 9, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good work Danny

I agree with you about Leon Washington, he could have a really big year. It is hard to speculate on what sort of numbers he’ll put up, I just think he’s going to be a factor. Watching Sproles go nuts last night made me contemplate what Leon is capable of given more opportunities. Also, seeing how the Saints rotated three backs situationally made wonder how the three back rotation for the Hawks shakes out. Seems like Lynch, Forsett and Washington could be used in similar roles as Ingram, Thomas and Sproles respectively. Lynch/Ingram as the power runners in the more obvious running situations, Forsett/Thomas as balanced backs that don’t give away a run or pass, and Washington/Sproles used in passing situations and spread formations. There are obviously differences in those players, but in the sense of generic roles- it got me fired up about what this group might be able to do.

Your point about Rice and Williams not being guys that get good separation is valid, but I wonder how that’s going to balance against their large catch radii (or is it radiuses?) and ability to shield smaller defenders from the ball. It will be interesting to watch.

As bummed as I was about Carlson going down for the year, I’m really excited to see what McCoy can do in two TE sets. I think he might have some pretty big plays early on in the season; with teams focusing on Miller, McCoy might get loose.

by creid on Sep 9, 2011 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Washington

Watching Sproles in that Saints game last night got me fired up about Washington. I think we’ll see Leon run the ball more than Sproles but as this article says, we are going to throw lots of short check down passes and Washington could be dangerous in that role like Sproles was for the Saints last night.

by Billy Showbiz on Sep 9, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great Article

I have to agree with not seeing a ton of points this season. The O-Line is too young, and the lockout modified/shortened pre season did Seattle no favors in terms of giving the line time to learn and gel.

I do like what I’ve seen so far from the FO, and with some good draft picks and a free agent diamond in the rough (or two) next year, the Hawks could be on course for to at least challenge, if not claim the top of the NFC West for a few years.

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by Ryche And Roll on Sep 9, 2011 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Good story lines

Here are mine:

1. What can this D do? My intuition says it’ll be able to leverage teams into passing downs with regularity but will be close to helpless against the pass. Yet, it’s the unit I have the most blind optimism for. This scheme seems predicated on being able to manufacture a pass rush rather then being reliant on one or two high caliber players. It’s the most unorthodox thing Carroll has done in Seattle. It may end up being a great way to get around the short supply of great pass rushers. Or, it could be a fatal “college coach” conceit. Thing is, we won’t know just by looking at sack totals.

The back end is really exciting because it is so likely to be volatile from play-to-play. Secondaries can come together quickly (and cheaply). They tend to be good early, and so experience isn’t necessarily the best predictor of how good a secondary is. Inexperienced secondaries will yield some plays, but they’ll make their fair share too. This secondary strikes me as similar to New Orleans’ group in its feast-or-famine reliance on turnovers, but bigger and cheaper. We definitely have the athletes to make some plays despite the team’s pedestrian pass rush, especially against some of the blah QBs we’ll see this year. At the same time, you almost know that the good QBs are gonna tear this secondary a new one. I could see this defense pitching a shutout and giving up 50 within a four game stretch.

2. How long will it take for the o-line to gel? This is an interesting question because the answer is quite possibly, “it never will.” Good QBs can overcome mediocre line play, but not bad line play. Right now, it’s bad. It’s so bad the coaches are contemplating position switches, which come with switching costs. Sigh. I expect things to improve (for the record), and I think the staff did the right thing by pouring resources into this long-neglected unit. But, I am also honest about the possibility that this group just never gels.

3. How long before people let go the QB non-story? Jackson and Whitehurst are both turnover prone, virtually guaranteeing that both will play. I cannot think of a QB controversy less worthy of emotional investment than this one. How long before media and fans wear themselves out from beating this horse’s carcass? I’m guessing week 6 or 8, after Whitehurst has one reasonable and one terrible start.

4. Can Aaron Curry play or not? This staff, it seems, has given him more than a fair shake. It has tried to scheme around his strengths. He hasn’t been worthless on the level of Gholston, but he’s made more negative plays than positive ones. He is better known for his jaw-jacking, penalty-drawing, and bible-thumping than for thumping opposing QBs and RBs. Consequently, his contract has been adjusted to more adequately reflect his… ahem… on-field impact. So the message is crystal clear. It’s now or never in Seattle for Curry. But there is hope. The LBs are key to allowing this defense to live up to its rather impressive upside, especially if Curry can become an above average player. We need him to play well as much as he needs to play well for himself. So brother, we are rooting for you. You complete us.

5. Which QBs come out? We know Luck will be in the draft. Who else? I don’t think this team will be bad enough (in the NFC West) to get the top overall pick but will likely top out between 4 and 6 wins. This could be a fairly impressive QB class.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Sep 9, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree the secondary is going to be exciting to watch

Depressing at times too, but exciting

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Regarding your fist point about DEs,

I think Carroll and Schneider want to avoid having to rely on high draft picks at key positions in order to win. UDFAs and low-round draft picks man key positions in both Green Bay’s and Pittsburgh’s rosters. The thing they have that we don’t is continuity. I was encouraged hearing Carroll say something about how we don’t need to make as many changes as we did last year and that now we just need to ‘grow up’.

by EthelGemerman on Sep 9, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

QBs coming out

Perhaps the new CBA will encourage more to come out, the gold-mine of being a top 5 has relaxed a great deal, the difference between pick 3 and pick 17 not nearly as drastic … so why not go in?

by hawkster on Sep 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gonna be a rough first 2 weeks...

Starting out against SF is much better than it could be than going to a majority of other cities to play against stronger competition.

Week 2 is going to be a VERY rough game, but a W this weekend would go a long way in building confidence regardless how we play in Pitt. It’s much easier to keep guys focused 1-1 with a loss in Pittsburgh (hopefully a good battle).

I wonder if we will see any of the Sene-cat type plays with Portis this season. He seems very comfortable on the move and could take advantage of defenses.

by SGT Lenny on Sep 9, 2011 9:01 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Portis is a third string QB

If they put him in they must bench the first-string QB. Doubt that will happen.

by m_b on Sep 9, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will need Vasilli to back me up, but I think they go rid of that rule

The 3rd string QB is now a full up activated member of the roster.

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct, assuming they choose to activate him

With the “benefit” of the 3rd QB rule eliminated, they could decide to use that 46th active slot on an extra DB or something, and assume that if both Jackson and Whitehurst go down, that Michael Robinson will have to finish the game somehow.

by busplunger on Sep 9, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats exactly what I thought happened

So we probably won’t see portis activated at all this year

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Portis is on the active roster.

If they dropped him, the fear is he’d get snapped up by somebody else before we could sign him to the practice squad. It’s a fairly well-founded fear; even though we probably value him more than other teams, quarterbacks are considered to be really, really valuable, even rookies who may or may not ever pan out.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Sep 9, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

You may be correct, I thought it might have changed…

by m_b on Sep 9, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct

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by Thomas Beekers on Sep 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they abolished that rule with the new CBA

Before, bringing in a third QB came with all sorts of conditions and prerequisites. Now, I’m pretty sure he can see action and not have to bench TJ or Whitehurst in the process.

by Clendy on Sep 9, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't read for content and I get confused after the third sentence

In general I need more pictures and boobs help

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You aren't giving us weekly quizzes, so our retention plummets.

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by shams on Sep 9, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am just hoping that the line can stay healthy through the bye week

Thats where I think we could see them starting to gel as a unit. Injuries would set that all back.

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Yow, what a stellar bunch of athaletic, young freaks.

Give me a raw but freakish physical specimen that can recover to make something out of a busted play over the Brian Russells of the world any day. Guts and guile will only carry you so far, and unless everyone around you has superfreakish talent, they won’t be able to cover for your Ruskellian physically overmatched, aging skills. Raw talent has a way of becoming polished talent.

Matt and Lofa were the heart and soul of this team, and fantastic guys. They were also physically overmatched to the point of being downright terrible the last several years. Doesn’t matter if you know exactly what needs to be done, if you are not physically able to answer the bell when it needs to be done, and there is such a dearth of surrounding talent that you have to do too much and blow your assignment in the process.

Jackson has a big arm and a quick release, and there are finally some legitimate deep threats to keep defenses honest when they inevitably stack the box for runs and screens. Even BMFMW can get 15 yards downfield, which will be sufficient with 2 TE and a good pass blocking RB in to help block.

by bleedshawkblue on Sep 9, 2011 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks again Big Dan. And to you also Mr. Allen.

I was over at the Rams site yesterday & read about the A they scored in FA . Not to put down what they have done but it reminded me of Ruskell & the patch job he gave us each year. The way P.C. / J.C. Are building this team with young talent that they hunt down with hard work is waaaay cooler.

by Richard fg7 on Sep 9, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

He wants to pee on you.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Sep 9, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just a Hope

That we start off fast, playing at least .500 ball or around that before the break.

This team will surprise, just hoping it happens quicker than the bye.

Why? Because PC and JS said so!

by JRock419 on Sep 9, 2011 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I love it

Someone else on the optimistic positivity train with me.

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give me a hand up on to that wagon, brother

One day to go, and I’m looking forward to Clemons tearing Smith a new one. And why the hell not? Let’s save the hand-wringing and picking over the track wreck until AFTER the wheels come off.

I like the ambition, I like the potential and goddamn it I’ve spent a few grand on coming over to see the team play for the first time so let’s go Hawks, I’m in!!

by JohnnyLondon on Sep 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah get some

If you aren’t pumped you are missing out. Anything can happen. We can worry about bad stuff if that happens, but for now we have as much chance as anyone of going all the way.

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only 1 team ahead of us right now...

And they won the SB last year…

You know how we deal with previous SB winners! Lil baby stiffarm and an earthquake!

Go MF’in Hawks!

by SGT Lenny on Sep 9, 2011 3:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I want the team to succeed as much as the next guy.

But for some of this stuff, thinking that the O-line will be just fine, for instance, is just going to lead to a bit of disappointment and then grousing and kvetching, whereas if we accept that it will struggle in the first half of the season, then if it doesn’t we’ll be all happy and stuff.

Besides, the nature of the Seattleite is to be pessimistic. It’s all about the rain.

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by Johnny Slick on Sep 9, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell no, as a Seattle sports fan you have to live in a rose colored world of optimism

Otherwise you will start cutting

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by stufr on Sep 9, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

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