Kam Chancellor and Brandon Browner added to pro bowl roster
Replacing Dashon Goldson and Carlos Rogers, both Chance and Browner were first alternates. That makes for four Seahawks pro bowlers.
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Fuck YES! I will celebrate with the following gif!
by the other side on Jan 23, 2012 9:32 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
My personal favorite penalty we committed this year
Even though it was totally legal
by Heaven for the Air, Hell for the Company on Jan 23, 2012 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Is Pete going to ask Kam to change how he plays, or push back more with the league office?
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Pete's not even in the competition committee
He better tell Kam to dial it down. It’s not a useful aspect of his play.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Not useful?
I’m surprised you use that phrase. Hitting that big definitely has its uses, though the detriments may of course outweigh.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Not useful on balance, might be a better turn of phrase
Because the detriments certainly outweigh the pros in the modern NFL, as a rule. From a career, rule, quality of play perspective, however you want to angle it in. I expect Kam to be coached to dial it back.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Niner and Giant defenses these playoffs haven't changed your mind?
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Not really
Note I’m not arguing for Kam to stop playing physical football. There’s just a balance you have to find here that I think he and the defense in toto have overshot, in the sense of physical strength and smashmouth-style. Singletary made the same stylistic mistake with the 49ers, just like Ruskell made a similar mistake but in the other direction. A balance is important.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
What do you think of the above play in particular?
Where does it fall in the balance? IIRC Chancellor did not get fined, though I’m not sure what we can draw from that.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Unnecessarily hard hit
I know fans love it, but go for efficiency, not for the slam-type. It shortens careers, makes it too easy to flag you, doesn’t change that much on the field unless you believe NFL players are apt to be intimidated.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
i think your wrong let the guy play his game
he wants to be physical let him. you cant tell a player like cam to go at 90 percent. come on now this is football. he’s playing the game legally and that’s all that matters.
he’s not head hunting, or going after knees or anything bad. im not sure if its you or other people keep telling cam to dial it down. let him play his game.
those two players got up and played football.
You're not offering any actual arguments in this comment.
Not that I can see, at least. What do hits like those actually add from an efficiency perspective?
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think Heap just got up
He was injured/concussed on that play I’m pretty sure…
Heap had the wind knocked out of him, nevermind.
http://mynorthwest.com/275/553213/Kam-Chancellors-hit-and-Roger-Goodells-miss
by Stay Off the Flowers on Jan 24, 2012 3:23 AM PST up reply actions
You don't think aligator arms are real?
Remember Crabtree short arning the football as Milloy closed in? Some players are afraid to take a big hit.
by Mind of no mind on Jan 24, 2012 3:44 AM PST up reply actions
I believe they're real
I don’t think they’re a big enough factor to play for.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 AM PST up reply actions
Do you think crowd noise is ever a factor in how teams play?
Because hits like that get a home crowd juiced.
by John Edwards on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
We've got an enforcer.
He ain’t dialing it down. A 15 yard penalty and a 15K fine every 3 or 4 weeks ain’t gonna stop it.
And diva primma dona receivers are apt to be intimidated. You got a safety that lays out the TE? Receivers shit bricks. Message sent: don’t go over the middle.
That hit on Heaps, it changed the tone of the game. It was worth it.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Sure, I'm not saying it has no purpose at all
Just that on balance, there’s a reason this type went the way of the dodo. It’s not going to have a positive impact on the long run. Not to mention no one cared about throwing over the shallow middle, it was Earl Thomas’ area that is avoided. Because Earl Thomas’ type is what has value in the modern NFL, not so much Kam’s.
Hard hits have a place in the NFL, but you have to be smart about it. Kam is young, and he plays young and reckless. It is going to change.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
Dial it down........
Yes, but let them know that we aren’t soft. I can get behind that line of thinking. Balance.
by Heliocopris Dominus on Jan 23, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Make a statement
It is so much a mental game. Look at guys like Baldwin. Attitude, toughness, and then the fruit is respect. Statements like that don’t stike fear in anyone at that level unless you have the ability to play good football. Then, you have the full package.
by Heliocopris Dominus on Jan 23, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
I like him as a person and don't want him to scramble his brains by age 35.
It’s still possible to be a tough hitter in the NFL without being a human Madden Hit Stick.
Browner in the pro bowl is kind of a joke, to be honest
He was the most exploitable part of our secondary. Lots of exploitation led to lots of plays. Not a pro bowler by any measure.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 9:41 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
At least it isn't a legacy pick.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Jan 23, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He got way better as the season progressed.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
Probably
but the competition also got a lot weaker.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 23, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
it goes to show you, whenever you give an old time seahawks fan a chance
they look for things to complain about.
he played better at the end and improved quickly.
he adjusted to the football alot better. learned to hand check and fight at the line of scrimmage better. held, delayed, frustrated opposing players to the point right before being penalized. he became less and less a liability. i see big improvements next year.
we sill need an elite cb or better pass rush.
Better is not good
He was decent, not a pro bowl player.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 1:59 AM PST up reply actions
For instance
Cornerbacks are hard to judge head-to-head since you need to spend some time to scout them out. I mean, I know Grimes is a better player than Browner but I hardly saw enough Falcons to know if he had a decent year. Weird thing is, I could probably name half a dozen AFC CBs off the cuff better than Browner, but I think the NFC is a weaker division corner-wise, which helps.
But yeah, the fact that he’s not even the best on his team highlights how odd a pick it is.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 5:28 AM PST up reply actions
Not a Pro Bowler, but fun to watch.
I’m not as critical as you are about Browner. I dunno if it was Twitter or here, where you argued well that he made plays mostly on account of volume. I think it’s a reasonable position, but I think the type of play he was asked to do is rather demanding and he held up.
Should have been flagged about a third more than he was — but then some of the calls were ultimately borne out of reputation and just a general mauling of receivers on every play, so things that maybe shouldn’ta been called were, to make up for that, so possibly it kinda evened out — and he was beaten more in the 2nd half of the season than most recognize, but I don’t think his play is that far off of Woodson’s, in that regard, with a similar proportion of breakups & INTs. Woodson’s thrown at less, because he’s better, but also somewhat due to team makeup and circumstance. Given that our pass rush was anemic most of the time and most pressure amounted to cover pressure, I think Browner did an above average job. The compelling narrative of his story makes it sem like he was better than he was, but it was very satisfactory to me, even if I know it wasn’t quite Pro Bowl and I know Sherman was better.
Head of catering.
by jacobstevens on Jan 25, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
You're on a roll today, bro
Keep it up
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, thanks. I feel like I've had so very little to say lately.
Head of catering.
by jacobstevens on Jan 25, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
If whoever is coaching the NFC defense has even half a brain
he’ll have Thomas, Browner and Chancellor play at the same time.
by Bald Eagle 1313 on Jan 23, 2012 9:42 PM PST reply actions
Well, you only have 5 secondary picks for the NFC
Browner will be a reserve but Thomas and Chance start.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
You know whose coaching the NFC?
Lovie Smith.
"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff
its the stinking pro bowl
no one wants to play hard, and get injured. its not really a game
Is any game Lovie Smith coaches
really a game? Sorry, my Bears hater mentality is kicking in.
Is he?
Isn’t the pro bowl always coached by the losing championship team staff?
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 6:22 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think so
Belicheck coached last year, and Pats were out in the first round
Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Does anyone have
The Browner .gif from (I think) the SF game? On special teams when he takes out 3 players even though it was a fair catch? That one is gold
by BiNgOsHaDo on Jan 23, 2012 9:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I was trying to give Charlie Todaro some credit.
But, yes that works too.
by the other side on Jan 23, 2012 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
And I applaud you for that.
Although there are a lot of photos in that article, so to provide the specific gif that was requested was also prudent, as well.
I assume this has been tweeted to Chancellor.
So. Awesome.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
This is the first time I'd ever seen this.
Oh. My. Grass.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
Never seen anyone do that.
Not that I watch special teams very closely.
hahahahah
oh my fucking god. Where was I when that happened? I love this team.
Remember, it wasn’t too long ago that we were watching this shit every Sunday:
CELEBRATE, REJOICE, CAROUSE AROUND, JUBILATE CITIZENS OF FIELD GULLS! OUR HATED ENEMY HAS FALLEN TO ELI MANNING!
--Corax
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:53 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm at the point by now that I just laugh about 2008 and 2009.
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
But the 2008 squad was so good on paper :(
I feel like that season was just one heartbreaker after another.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
Is that a genuine and common sentiment?
Pure curiosity, not a rhetorical or belittling question. I was very worrisome going into camp and basically wrote the season off after week 2. I actually posted on an old Web 1.0 forum a flat assertion that we’d miss the playoffs, after we started 0-2, because I could tell the receiver situation was so bad and the team wasn’t built to make up for that.
But man I still believe that 2007 squad was close to being very special.
Head of catering.
by jacobstevens on Jan 25, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I wasn't a FG participant at the time.
I meant the defensive side mostly. I still like Grant as a safety, Russell did well in 2007, the LB corps was established and dynamic, Kerney was coming off a great season, it all looked great.
Actually, Branch and Burleson as starting WRs excited me at the time, too.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
That is THE SHIT
three fucking guys in two seconds. HELL YES.
Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Just re-watched Brandon Browner versus Mike Wallace.
I… I do not think I’d like to see this re-match.
follow @casetines
That was Week 2...might as well have happened in the Cambrian Period .
Brandon Browner in Week 2 =
Brandon Browner later on =
by J.L. White on Jan 23, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He might have gotten better in press coverage, but I don't think he all of a sudden gained the speed to keep up with Wallace.
He might play him better today, but I still wouldn’t expect it to be good.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Jan 24, 2012 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
Chancellor deserves it, ET deserves it, not sure on MRob and definitely not on Browner
Lynch not making the Pro Bowl is bullshit but who cares? It’s the Pro Bowl.
On the plus side this is the last time we’ll see a Seahawk for months.
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
Is there a worse fit for the pro bowl then Kam?
Not that he isn’t deserving, just considering the effort and rules they play with in that game. I wonder if he’ll blow someone up for the hell of it.
And that is exactly why I will be tuning in.
Give em hell, Kam.
by the other side on Jan 23, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
There's a very good chance he's going to piss off a lot of people
It’s going to be fun
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by cdlewey on Jan 23, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He's the closest thing to Sean Taylor since Taylor's passing
Sean Taylor blew up a punter in the probowl that was running a fake. Heres hoping Kam channels the late Taylor and destroys someone.
To be fair to Browner
He was pretty much nowhere to be found amongst the fan voting. So it was ‘football people’ (coaches,players,management) that got him all the way to 1st alternate. Not you or I.
Browner basically gave us what I would call a “Al Harris in his prime” type of season. Physical press coverage, and a mix of big plays, penalties, shutdown play,suplexes and boneheaded plays. He’s by no means great, but after having Jennings/Wilson it feels better that our CBs are now the ‘hammer instead of the nail’
by puerto on Jan 23, 2012 10:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Where is he now?
Did he Start this year?
by bonecruncher on Jan 24, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions
Thank you.
Let’s not forget this while several people in here cannibalize one of our own.
CELEBRATE, REJOICE, CAROUSE AROUND, JUBILATE CITIZENS OF FIELD GULLS! OUR HATED ENEMY HAS FALLEN TO ELI MANNING!
--Corax
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:55 AM PST up reply actions
Did I miss something?
Since when should it be discouraged to be critical of our players? Especially when they’re being overrated, like Browner here.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 5:12 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
People seem to be even more critical of Browner since the ProBowl Honors
Has stated above the coaches and players are the ones who voted them into the probowl, not the fans(I don’t know if there is a site to find the numbers). They played against him and had to coach against him, so getting their votes has got to be an honor in itself.
by bonecruncher on Jan 24, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Well, I'm not calling him on the phone to tell him he didn't deserve it
He should feel honored. But we shouldn’t just embrace him as a good player because he ended up in the pro bowl. It’s not meaningless, not even for analysis, but it’s not exactly very meaningful either.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree with you
Browner had a good season, not a great one, certainly not a Pro Bowl-worthy one. I’m okay with 1st alternate. He was a second-team all-star, not a first-team all-star.
Totally agree.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
I love you, but you pick the weirdest battles sometimes.
Of course Browner doesn’t deserve the Pro Bowl. Fortunately, the Pro Bowl means fuckall, so let’s just be happy that a former CFL nobody just got a free vacation to Hawaii, and that dude happens to play for our favorite team.
by Benne on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
LOCAL former CFL nobody.*
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
I commend you and thank you for being willing to stand up & criticize a very lovable player.
I distinguished how I feel compared to how you feel above, but it’s not to say you’re wrong, just articulating how I feel. I really appreciate the standard you’re helping to uphold, though.
Head of catering.
by jacobstevens on Jan 25, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"One of our own"
Give me a break. Aaron Curry was one of our own too. It’s okay not to feel like every player at every position on the Seahawks is the G.O.A.T.
by jhmg16 on Jan 24, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Can't we just act like "Ha! That's awesome" in the way that we won the division at 7-9?
Happy medium would be that it’s cool that he made the Pro Bowl because he is a Seahawk and it will make him happy. And it’s honest to say that he’s probably not on the level of what you’d expect from a Pro Bowl cornerback.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Jan 24, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
That was my reaction when I saw the headline.
“Cool, some national media attention for Seahawks players, that never happens!”
I just don’t think a Pro Bowl spot is any kind of indication of talent, just an acknowledgment that a certain guy has a lot of fans and reached an arbitrary threshold of counting statistics.
Seriously. That's pretty much my point.
While I agree with Kenneth that he’s not going to be “elite,” as in the company of Champ or Nnamdi, I think it says something about his skills that players and coaches thought enough of him to cast their votes for him. Fan votes mean little in the Pro Bowl, when they are weighted so slightly against the votes of people in the league. And as far as fan votes go, I doubt Browner was very high on the list.
Sorry, but it means less than nothing when some person on the internet calls a player “overrated,” especially when said player was voted into the Pro-Bowl by his peers.
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Cool, thanks for the vote of confidence in our work.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 AM PST up reply actions
He has a valid point about the peer voting.
Don’t need to take it so personal.
The mellow-dramatic, passive aggressiveness doesn’t lend anything to the debate either.
by Dizzy Saturn on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I wasn't responding to that
I was responding to “means less than nothing” and “some person on the internet” parts. That always grinds my gears.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Melodramatic* :)
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
I'm not familiar with GOAT..
But I do have a definite fondness for Browner, Sherman, and Badlwin. These guys are underdogs that I’ve been pulling for since the season began.
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Why so much Browner hate?
the guy played in canada for years and they have very different rules. Once he got used to the US style he was 1 of the leading CB’s in the nfc in broken up passes and completed passes. The guy really is good and his only fault is his he isnt a great cover guy on the speedsters.
He deserves to go, Seattle has one of the best and upcoming secondary in the league. I would like sherman to get his dues as well, theres always next year.
by Dominic Matlock on Jan 23, 2012 10:24 PM PST reply actions
That is not his only fault
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
His drive-extending penalties are brutal
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
by SSreporters on Jan 23, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
yes ill give you that
Dont think next year we will have that same issue
by Dominic Matlock on Jan 23, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
One of the reasons he posted high pass breakups and interceptions
was that he was targeted constantly, being the inferior corner on the team and all
by Heaven for the Air, Hell for the Company on Jan 23, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
say what you want the guy isnt the "inferior" corner on the team
He had a lot of penalties yes, but he was also the most targeted guy on passes and focus on refs all year.
by Dominic Matlock on Jan 23, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
If he's the most targeted guy on passes, he's most likely your worst secondary player
That’s how it works, especially in man concepts.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
the mike wallace thing totally
apart from that teams knew they had a good chance getting a flag throwing to him lets be honest here. Inferior of the starting db’s i can live with but for the team i cant agree with.
by Dominic Matlock on Jan 23, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
I don't understand what you are saying.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
I meant the inferior db on the field
Opposing quarterback are not going to target the guy sitting next to the water cooler, my mistake.
I feel my point still stands. Browner was targeted the most because he was the least likely to do anything about it, and he didn’t do anything about it a lot of the time for a pro bowler.
by Heaven for the Air, Hell for the Company on Jan 23, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Oh right, now I'm back on track in the conversation
Yeah, our secondary depth wasn’t too hot by the end of the year so it’s not like we had options over Browner. Still, I’d like to see him replaced eventually. Maybe with Thurmond.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
as far as Thurmond goes
i would love to see him play more, maybe he could take over for browner, but i think he would be a better slot cb than lewis.
by Dominic Matlock on Jan 23, 2012 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
I too am riding the Thurman train!
I too am untranslatable.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Jan 23, 2012 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he is better than Lewis, too
Based on what we’ve seen so far. And he’ll probably supplant Lewis as the slot guy next year. Whether or not he’s starter material is a bit harder to peg. We’ll see.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
I'm really excited to see what the secondary can do with Walter.
Remember when our only CBs were Trufaunt and Walter? I fucking love this FO.
by the other side on Jan 23, 2012 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Browner started over Thurman last year.
He started over every cornerback on our roster besides Tru. Waiting to see if he is penaltized everytime he bumps a reciever. He did commit penalities, but some of them were questionable calls. If he had a name like Revis, Bailey, etc…how many penalties would have been called? The game against Wallace was poor playing and poor coaching. He is a physical corner and needs to be up pressing the line with help over the top on speedy recievers. Sorry for the random post..got a lot on my mind and a 2 year old grabbing the computer.
by bonecruncher on Jan 24, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, right before she opened his belly with a katana.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
i disagree
you have your point at the start of the season maybe, but his play at the position got better thru the year and we all were raging at the tv when he got bs calls (not sayin he didnt warrant some)
by Dominic Matlock on Jan 23, 2012 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
Generally,
but not always the case with the left/right corner set up we’ve got.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
If i were to say anyone was the "inferior corner"
id have to give that title to roy lewis. He’s not a starter but he got burned alot
by Dominic Matlock on Jan 23, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Not really
I mean, he was no superstar, but he was outstanding as a slot corner last year and decent this.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Let's also remember that Browner was hardly the reception sieve in the 2nd half of the season, as he was in the 1st.
And let us ALSO remember that we had a terribly brutal 1st half to the season, where Browner was often matched up against Mike Wallace, Larry Fitzgerald, Roddy White, AJ Green and Hakeem Nicks (and/or Victor Cruz). That’s a tough lineup for any corner, let alone a CFL refugee still learning this league.
Yes
Our 2ndary will be pushed to the limit next year and we will see how they handle it with the NFC north and AFC east and then the Panthers. Im looking forward to it.
by Dominic Matlock on Jan 23, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
Predicting a sophomore slump for Cam Newton
Early in the season he was incredibly successful doing things that a lot of teams thought were not in his skillset. Once the opponents cottoned on and picked up the trends, the fancy passing numbers began to fall away (although he was getting yards on the ground at that point). Next season, everyone will be ready for him.
I'm a Browner fan
But yes he is the inferior CB of the two. But that’s no knock on Browner. Being inferior to Sherman can still get you in the probowl.
Its just that Sherman has elite upside, and quite frankly was elite since becoming a starter – top 3-5 in the league by most metrics.
Drinking the kool-aid a little hard there
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
He's not the only one!
Some believe Sherman is the best player in our secondary.
ET isn't in our secondary, he is the secondary
and the rest of the players are just part of his playground
Smashmouth is the new sexy!
by pqlqi on Jan 25, 2012 3:18 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sherman's our best corner
there’s no doubt about that.
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 25, 2012 6:00 AM PST up reply actions
I'm calling SSS/inferier competition/luck for now.
Gonna wait and see how the sophomore season starts for him.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
Nice try though!
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
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As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
Cautious optimism, yeah
But optimism certainly is warranted. I liked his surprising turning speed, hip flex and agility when scouting him after the pick, and he looked good this season.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
It could possibly be that I'm so excited about him that I'm overcompensating with hyperrationalism and excessive caution.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
I mean seriously? A 4th (5th?) round rookie outstripping a CFL all-star, a storied veteran, and a promising sophomore?
Too good to be true.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
Who on the roster could possibly be better?
Trufant? His skills may be more refined, but he’s slow these days.
Thurmond? I don’t even know what to say about him. I’m optimistic, but it’d be nice to see him on the field for once.
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 25, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
O/T: New unis?
Softy Mahler tweets rumor. Perhaps silver in the color scheme? A logo tweak? I’d love some silver.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Eh
As long as we add more lime green.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:37 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
The logo is awesome, hope it's not that.
I probably wouldn’t hate silver, unless it supplants the neon green.
by the other side on Jan 23, 2012 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
RAGE!
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 23, 2012 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Oh I will lead the fucking riot, believe me.
I think we should get one started just in case. Let me get my baseball bat and gasoline.
by the other side on Jan 23, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Just a guess
they keep the darkest blue and the neon green (in both the logo and the uniform) but get rid entirely of the other lighter shade of blue green.
The logo then becomes dark blue/silver (on the bottom strip) with the neon green glare eye remianing. The now dark blue/silver/neon green logo allows them to incororate those colors in the uniform.
I predict a matte and monochrome deep blue home uniform with silver/neon green trim/highlights.
Re-introducing the silver allows them go with a matte silver or carbon fiber helmet and transition into wearing throwbacks on occasion.
by puerto on Jan 23, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I would support this
Mix of the old & the new
by Papa Chelmon on Jan 23, 2012 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
I loved the liquid metal helmets Oregon wore in their bowl game
those were sick … can picture an inlaid hawks logo with that neon green eye popping out
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A little silver in there would be cool
But, I’m not so sure about the logo tweak. I like the whole native american theme.
by Heliocopris Dominus on Jan 23, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed The Totem Hawk Rules
I would love for them to keep pretty much the current scheme, and silver the hats and pants, and a little more emphasis on the green, make it part of the socks and trim. But if they do a stripe down the side ala the Bengals and Vikings, I’m going to puke.
Full on color in a uniform leads to massive butt sweat.
Live work and breathe like an optimist.
Everyone is getting new unis
Nike took over the jersey contract with the NFL… so everyone is getting new stuff. Though Nike did say not all teams are willing to make big changes… so a lot will have the same set up, just different chassis.
I’d think it’s a safe bet to say the Hawks are willing to make some fun changes
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Thanks for the link
I should get on creating some… I do graphic art stuff … maybe I’ll catch Nike’s attention and they’ll make my Jersey!!!
Don’t completely shoot me down, Baltimore did steal that one dude’s logo way back when
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Those are awesome.
My favorite:
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by hazbro24 on Jan 24, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Please god no, don't put those stupid
little wings on the shoulder please. I am so sick of seeing that crap on OR jerseys. I don’t want to hate looking at my favorite team.
I do love those helmets
I’m a fan of those, the liquid metal…and then a lot of the matte black/grey ones out there that other teams use.
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SSReporters will just take them off again, what does it even matter?
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
I thought Goldson came in as a free safety
49ers checking out eh? Surprised Gore’s still going.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 2:00 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think they care too much about FS vs SS in the Pro Bowl
Last year Roman Harper got the nod ahead of Earl Thomas.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Shame on some of you
To talk about our guys who, “Made It To The Pro-Bowl” not being deserving. This is football not a political debate. It’s about OUR TEAM!
Oh come on
Seriously? What are we, 49ers fan? We can still rationally discuss our own players.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 5:08 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
Agreed. That's the main reason I read FGs.
It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.
by mister bunny on Jan 24, 2012 6:05 AM PST up reply actions
Our conversion to Niners Nation is complete.
Well done, everyone.
by BrianL on Jan 24, 2012 7:59 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Takeaway from this thread
Critical analysis is no longer appreciated on this blog.
by BrianL on Jan 24, 2012 8:00 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Hyperbole much?
Critical analysis is always appreciated. Comments regarding the pro bowl are bound to be lacking in rational arguments. Instead of making such doom and gloom comments perhaps you could post the Fieldgulls rules, and keep them at the top for awhile. It seems like it has been a long time.
by brugg on Jan 24, 2012 8:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
We've been trending this direction for a long time.
This isn’t new.
by BrianL on Jan 24, 2012 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I understand this, but Niners Nation we are not.
There is, however, still lots of insightful critical analysis here, and maybe a friendly post informing some new to the community of the rules and goals here at Fieldgulls would go a lot further than defeatist commentary.
by brugg on Jan 24, 2012 8:40 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The rules don't really have a lot to do with it
Rules are there to curb excesses, not to channel the nature of the discourse. Field Gulls’ discourse is changing as its staff has changed. Pretty inevitable, still not a lot of fun to sit through.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
I stated rules and goals.
I doubt the new staff has a different idea of critical analysis and reasoned argumentation. Are you arguing we have no need for a rules and guidelines post? I think Fieldgulls could really use a helpful does of guidelines.
by brugg on Jan 24, 2012 8:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Fine.
I remember when the rules and guidelines post was fairly frequent. All I’m saying is some of these threads could be improved with a little reminder of some of the goals here. To my mind’s eye this would be far more helpful.
I really didn’t intend to come across combative.
by brugg on Jan 24, 2012 9:03 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, you have a fair point
I was more kind of saying it’s not a “solution”, because there’s not really anything to “solve” here. It’s a different Field Gulls now.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
The Pro Bowl is not Browner's game considering his skill set
You can’t press coverage in the Pro Bowl. That’s where 60% of Browner’s success comes from. Lawls!
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He'll do just fine in the Harlem globetrotters of football game.
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It's not like the WRs actually trie
so he’s got that going for him
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Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
*try
Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Lawls? Lawls?
Jesus.
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Sentiment seconded.
As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.
I might be.
We have to be over on Swampbutt Island for my wife’s job during that time, so I’m looking into tickets.
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like all that's left is nosebleeds
And I don’t know if they are going to charge me for my 1 year old.
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Weird. When you watch the game on TV the stadium is usually pretty empty.
Maybe try stub hub or scalping on the street. There’s got to be a ton of unused corporate tix.
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