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So I suppose the end of a season is as good of a time as any to do a little administrative house cleaning, and with that in mind I wanted to re-post the site rules and regulations and just give a quick "Welcome!" and "thanks!" to new members and readers. See more after the jump!

Star-divide

It's been a year or so since I assumed the stewardship of Field Gulls after John Morgan's departure, and have learned a lot along the way. I give most of the credit for that to you readers and commenters (and John, for establishing such an amazing blog). With John pursuing other endeavors, the site was bound to change a little in his absence and to those of you that dislike that I offer apologies (despite the fact that there's not a whole lot I can do about it). I felt a little bit like "your mom's new boyfriend" for a while and it was a bit awkward at first. Hopefully, you've found that I'm a nice guy that has something to offer and maybe after you're done reading this we can go out in the yard and play catch, pal.

I have striven to 'be myself' as much as possible and in an effort to provide a wide range of topics, voice, and perspective, I have reached out to many-a--new-writer and built up the staff here to it's current glorious ranks. If there's one thing I'm most proud of in my time at Field Gulls, it's the crew of talented writers that have been assembled here.

All you people, stand and be recognized:

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(Yes, I was too lazy to write out all their names)

My vision has always been a 'community' feel where anyone can come and read the latest news about the Seahawks, the most in-depth analysis about the Seahawks, and the most entertaining articles about the Seahawks. Also, with the thought in mind that most Seahawks fans like the game of football, I have written, and encouraged Field Gulls' writers to broach subjects, like the NFL Draft, college football, and just general football philosophy and history from time to time. If we get off the "Seahawks" track once in a while, it's because I like the idea of educating readers on more than just what is happening in Seattle and it makes us all more savvy football fans. Hopefully that's cool with you. Regardless, at our core, we're a Seahawks blog, and that will never change (unless they move to Oklahoma City).

Anyway - I wanted to sincerely thank all the writers, commenters, contributors, and fanposters at the site because I absolutely love coming to Field Gulls on the daily because of you. I don't hang around here all day to read my own shit, that's for sure.

The following is the final set of rules and regulations decided upon by the community of Field Gulls. I haven't personally added anything or taken anything away, but if I were to add emphasis or my own words to it I'd say this:

Have fun. Don't be an asshole (this might be an unspoken rule, but it's the most important one). Use the rec button liberally, it's a great way to encourage the writers (seriously, it's kind of sad how much I hope to get recs). Adhere to the commentary rules because it's really annoying correcting you all the time. Be nice to strangers, and that includes 49er fans.

Don't talk about religion, politics, and don't be a racist, sexist bigot moron (goes along with the eminently important "don't be an asshole" unspoken rule). Don't complain about us enforcing these rules because when you joined, you agreed to adhere to them. No one likes talking about this stuff and it's one of those things that I'd rather not bring up, but every now and then, it's essential. Ok, so please refresh yourself here.

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Zero Tolerance

Abuse of the following rules will lead to comments being hidden or deleted as well as immediate banning, possibly without chance of reinstatement.

Sexism, Racism or other Bigotry: MTV raised you right. You know better than to use "gay" in the pejorative. Cull the sexist, hate-filled slang from your vocabulary or expect an immediate ban.

No Politics or Religion: Just don't do it.

Name Calling: Except to call Scruffy "Lance". He likes that. This has never been a problem here, but for the sake of comprehensiveness, let it be known that name calling of any kind will not be tolerated.

Spam: One and you're done.

Hoaxes: False headlines used to capture attention will be rewarded with a deletion of the post and a banning. Misreported news of any kind is not allowed.

Trolling other blogs: Absolutely not. Do this and you will be banned here at FG.

Standards

Mods will enforce standards through a three strike system: correction, warning and finally banning. Mods will not punish innocent errors, but habitual abuse.

Links: A link must be provided for all news and quoted material.

Spelling and Grammar: The readers of Field Gulls are Field Gulls. Therefore you are held to basic editorial standards. Commenters must attempt proper spelling and grammar within the best of their ability. Many internet browsers have a spell check included.

Subject Line: The subject line is the small box above the body of a comment. SBN software requires this box be used. Use it.

Reply: The reply button is below and to the right of a posted comment. It's a wonderful organization and communication tool. Use it.

Site Etiquette

Site etiquette is to be enforced at the moderators discretion. It is a catch all for behavior not explicitly covered by the above rules that can be abusive to the site, those who contribute to the site and its readers.

Belligerence, Fault finding and Trollish behavior: Rudeness can be couched in the nicest words and divisive and destructive commenting can be framed as civil discussion. Persistent negative comments, thread-jacking, fault finding, petty correction, stubborn ignorance or illogic, meanness, calls to perfection, refusal to drop an argument, unfounded claims of prejudice and other acts of self-importance will be dealt with on a case by case basis. tl;dnr, don't be a jerk because you're behind the internet cloak of anonymity.

Judging the fandom of others: You don't get to decide how much of a fan someone is. If you do this, expect the community to be very angry with you.

Respect the moderators.

Keep front page posts on-topic: Unless specifically designated, comment sections are not free-for-alls. Your comments should be about the post itself.

Use the Rec button!: It is there to be the virtual equivalent of a head nod/fist bump/Amen Brother. This keeps the comments sections clean, concise and content heavy while allowing people to express their agreement in a visible way.

Fantasy discussion is for the weekly fantasy post: Fantasy comments outside of the post may be met with sarcasm.

Rosterbation: Fanposts containing logical, supported and novel roster moves are accepted, even endorsed. Fanposts that propose farfetched trades, signings, schemes or that endorse exhausted topics (ie Michael Vick, Mike Holmgren, the officiating of Super Bowl XL, etc) are not allowed.

Chat Speak: No longer accepted. "+1", "LOL" and "roflcopter" are examples of this.

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Roflcopter....

Has this really been used?

Thank you for posting about this. I am relatively new to the site, and I must admit I didn’t read all the rules. The asshole tidbit may be referring to me a little. I do apologize.

Thank you to all the staff. You guys are terrific writers and make me want to come onto FG.

Oh and….one rec for you.

by Neonjerseysplease on Jan 24, 2012 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

It's definitely not referring to you.

Though maybe I should go back and read your comments now(?).

And thanks!

by Danny Kelly on Jan 24, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

No way they are not that bad. I was referring to my

debbie downer comments after our losses.

The sky is falling the sky is falling etc etc etc.

by Neonjerseysplease on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

i’m pretty new to this site as well, and always wondered if there were a set of guidelines to adhere by. Glad this was posted (or reposted). I’ve heard tidbits in different posts about “staying to the subject line” and other stuff but had no clue what people were talking about. and where is the “rec” button?

Enter the 37th chamber: BEASTMODE

by RunMarshawnRun on Jan 24, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Click "actions" and it will give you the option to click a "star" that then gives a "rec"

Typing that out makes the process seem needlessly difficult and stupid.

by jhmg16 on Jan 24, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

there it is...

sorry dont know why i didnt see it there before… been a long day at work…

Enter the 37th chamber: BEASTMODE

by RunMarshawnRun on Jan 24, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Stubborn ignorance or illogic?

Does this mean we won’t see anymore articles extolling the virtues of being clutch or leadership?

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 24, 2012 1:41 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Don't worry,

Someone’s bound to write up something about being clutch just to piss you off (insert smiley face)

Don't be an idiot. If an idiot would do that, then don't do it. Muahahahaaha back on twitter

by RagingAlot on Jan 24, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLZ!!!!!1

I've got ridiculous upside.
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Follow @JacsonBevens

by Jacson Bevens on Jan 24, 2012 1:54 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Fire him. FIRE HIM NOW!!!!!!

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Jan 24, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He's gonna get Holted

It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.

by SGT Lenny on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

There is a fine line between sarcasm and trolling though, right? Because my post over in Beekers' Enyeart post about CW might fall under 'false headlines for attention'

I don’t care for attention, just for laughs.

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 2:22 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah - I wouldn't think that comment hurt, as it was pretty obvious you were joking.

The recent fake Prince Fielder to the Nationals tweet (if you saw that) is more along the lines of that though.

by Danny Kelly on Jan 24, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope, didn't see that

did people believe it? snicker

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah -

Long story short, fake account called JohnHeymanCBS tweeted that Price agreed with the Nats for 8year deal and pretty much everyone – ESPN, SBN, whoever, – retweeted it and took it as fact. Turns out, JonHeymanCBS doesn’t have an H in his name and it was a fake story.

by Danny Kelly on Jan 24, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

My chuckle is slowly building up to a storm of mirth

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would Keith Price leave to go play baseball?!

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Jan 24, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What's cool is that this community does a good job of self-policing (which should be encouraged and maybe even a rule)

Also something that addresses when and how the “Report” button is actually supposed to be used (or how the moderators would like it to be used) might be helpful.

by jhmg16 on Jan 24, 2012 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

As far as I know, even though its a rule, it's not enforced too heavily

e.g. game threads it can usually get by, once or twice here and there it usually won’t be picked up. I think the main reason behind it is so this site doesn’t turn into Twitter.

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely

If you make a habit of it, you’ll get chewed out, but you know, if you do it very rarely, seems like ‘eh whatever’.

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I generally try to type intelligently.

I just really dislike digressions about grammar take up posts in the middle of a thread about sports.

by pchumpy on Jan 24, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, and since we have a rule about it, we rarely have to have those conversations.

Game threads tend to move quickly but if someone says something funny and a person replies “lol” then they aren’t adding anything to the conversation and it’s generally useless. That’s what “rec” buttons are for.

Now in context of Jacsons “LOLZ!!!1” up there, we understand what Jacson is doing so there’s no contention of the usage.

follow @casetines

by Kenneth Arthur on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I use Haha at times because on some level I am ok with indicating that you found something funny.

LMFAO, LMAO, LOL, or my least favorite – SMH- these are examples of stepping over the line. I think the idea is to try and elevate the intelligence of the conversation and if you’re seeing those aforementioned chatspeak sayings a lot, it makes you just think you’re talking to a teenage girl or something. I dunno, that’s me. The rule was around before I got here.

by Danny Kelly on Jan 24, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I am sorry Danny but I will stick by my ROFLacco

I generally will whip it out in the correct context, which is anytime he plays.

It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.

by SGT Lenny on Jan 24, 2012 4:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You have my support

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

I saw on the mariners’ blog people get really cranky about capitalization and the chat speak stuff and it kind of put me off. Baseball is the sport where pitchers take amphetamines and outfielders spit tobacco juice on the ground while they’re working. I was hoping this blog wouldn’t be the same way – glad to hear it’s more laid back.

by pchumpy on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I capitalize, sometimes I don't

I haven’t been blasted yet, heh.

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Game threads tend to get littered with errors.

Outside the few who correct whenever possible, the conversation seems to go on without a hitch.

It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.

by SGT Lenny on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

It is off-putting, there is no way around that.

I have witnessed a number of times where a newcomer finds the community to be over the top about standards, and they don’t stick around. It’s an unfortunate consequence, but outweighed by the quality of content, substance and discourse that comes from upholding the standard.

Some folks are just going to find us stuck up. I take it as a personal responsibility to make a deliberate effort to come across more humble and accepting, bu I don’t expect anyone else to have to do the same. Anyway I like the culture the standard builds in the community.

Head of catering.

by jacobstevens on Jan 24, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Yeah, this is definitely the gold standard of message boards...

…in content and general respect. I’d like to think high standards are a good thing.

Most of my cliches aren't original.

- Chuck Knox

by Azimeir on Jan 25, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't follow baseball

and so I have never been over to Lookout Landing, but from what I hear, it’s more laid back here.

CELEBRATE, REJOICE, CAROUSE AROUND, JUBILATE CITIZENS OF FIELD GULLS! OUR HATED ENEMY HAS FALLEN TO ELI MANNING!
--Corax
It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Or ESPN.

Or TNT, or whatever else.

CELEBRATE, REJOICE, CAROUSE AROUND, JUBILATE CITIZENS OF FIELD GULLS! OUR HATED ENEMY HAS FALLEN TO ELI MANNING!
--Corax
It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

Nobody posts it here, and it’s super refreshing. It forces you to play up to the level of your competition and articulate your thoughts clearly.

by jhmg16 on Jan 24, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I respectually disagree, my good man or lady

I don’t have a real problem with the “no chat speak” rule, and I get the reasoning, but I think it’s misguided. It’s perfectly possible to write clear, intellectual, enjoyable (even moving) language and also incorporate chatspeak or other slang. Language evolves — yesterday’s scandalous epithet becomes today’s casual slang becomes tomorrow’s OED stalwart. The pleasure of wordplay is one of my favorites, and it often plays with these boundaries.

If someone asked me how I would modify the “no chatspeak” rule to preserve its general intent but allow a little more playfulness, I’d focus more on posts that are content-free. If you’re just going to post “+1” or “LOL” with nothing else to say, then meet my good friend the banhammer. But if you want to provide statistical evidence to back up your assertion that the Cards paying that much for Kolb was LOL-worthy, please do so.

Anyway, like I said, not a big issue for me. I just wanted to put on my linguist hat and bloviate a little bit. Roflcopter.

by Optic on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I will however grant the argument that it's easier to enforce

It’s easier to just say “no chat speak” than try and sort out who is using “LOL” in a playful, witty, and contentful manner and who is not.

by Optic on Jan 24, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Is "Yoda" syntax allowed by our grammar rules?

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Mean what you by this?

Most of my cliches aren't original.

- Chuck Knox

by Azimeir on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't disagree that language evolves

But chatspeak, in my opinion, isn’t there yet. “LOL-worthy” doesn’t mean anything. “LOL” doesn’t even really mean anything, because it stands for “laughing out loud” but the author probably isn’t. People use it to describe such a wide range of reactions that it has become as meaningless as “um”.

That said, when people use it the way you described as above, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone call them out. It’s the “lol, totally” responses that get dinged.

by jhmg16 on Jan 25, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Brings up the competition for better use of grammar.

THINK FORVER

Don't be an idiot. If an idiot would do that, then don't do it. Muahahahaaha back on twitter

by RagingAlot on Jan 24, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

No, not the execution itself.

It’s not the writing itself that I was questioning at all but rather considering a widely used form of slang to be beneath the football blog. I actually much prefer well constructed arguments and proper grammar to chat speak but it’s the grammar police that bug me.

Having said that, I’m new not only to this blog but to having an emotional investment in Seattle teams (I’m a transplant). I will do as the Romans.

Thanks for letting me air my thoughts on your rules, I look forward to following them :)

by pchumpy on Jan 24, 2012 6:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I forget to use the function.

If it didn’t take an extra click and was more akin to the “Like” button on Facebook, I’d give out recs like (can’t think of a clever metaphor)

by jhmg16 on Jan 24, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Agreed

I have to admit I only just found the rec hidden behind actions. there are only two actions, why not give each of them their own link?

by Optic on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

If the recs were set at ten in this stingy communtity,

we’d have maybe 7 posts total to go green in the last 3 years.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Jan 24, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

In fairness, most green posts on other blogs are from people rec'ing comments like
Yeah but we won’t lose to the SEATTLE SHE-HAWKSUX because we are GOOD at FOOTBALL

and that just blows the mind of everyone in the greater Pittsburgh area and gets rec’d 100 times.

by jhmg16 on Jan 25, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I like rec'ing and do, and I also like the higher threshold,

but I also don’t really want them being handed out like candy. If all posts are green, none are.

Head of catering.

by jacobstevens on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Trying to emulate Giants fans, now are we?

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't even recognize half of these names.

Is there still only like one person who moderates comments? Because as usual, we generally need someone who is actually around to do that.

CELEBRATE, REJOICE, CAROUSE AROUND, JUBILATE CITIZENS OF FIELD GULLS! OUR HATED ENEMY HAS FALLEN TO ELI MANNING!
--Corax
It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:08 PM PST reply actions  

Man, I am grouchy today.

Ok, let’s see. Jorgenson, Kasparek, Sully, Stephens, Harbaugh (wtf), Hill. Some of these guys only have like 20 comments. And what happened to DJ C-raig? He vanished as suddenly as he showed up. =(

It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Are you scouting new writers?

Or writing about football scouting? Or possibly scouting out new writers to write about scouting… of new writers?

by Optic on Jan 24, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Ow.

The artist formerly known as mattlock.

Twitter! -- Facebook!

by Matt Erickson on Jan 24, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec this

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You wish you were that handsome devil*

*I am obligated to post this comment since Scruffy is on vacation.

by BrianL on Jan 24, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

What's his name?

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I originally read that as...

“You wish you were that handsome, devil.” And I was like, jeez.

I've got ridiculous upside.
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Follow @JacsonBevens

by Jacson Bevens on Jan 24, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

How much would that blow my mind?!

Considering I’m friends with both of you on FB and you both seem to have clear and separate lives, photos, interests, etc.

Wait- Jacson has photos of himself in pants… bah, I’ve been had! Damn youngsters.

The artist formerly known as mattlock.

Twitter! -- Facebook!

by Matt Erickson on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

The recent exception to the chatspeak role has been the addition of ROFLacco while watching Ravens games.

Just too funny. But only in gamethreads.

Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"

by Bobby Cink on Jan 24, 2012 4:08 PM PST reply actions  

I hope this saying sticks for a while.

That way I have something to add to my resume. Hundreds of references for my contribution to field Gulls.

It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.

by SGT Lenny on Jan 24, 2012 4:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'll just say to be careful with your puns.

“ROFLacco” is acceptable. “Tony Homo”, “Tim Teblow” and “Ben Rapesbliger” are not.

by Benne on Jan 24, 2012 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

What about RosenCOPTER

is that still cool? Or was it ever cool?

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. - Al Swearengen

by Lo Pann on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

We're also fine with Hasseltoss, Hasselsack and Senesack.

I mean, come on guys, we’re not trying to be elitist with fucking puns here. Just make them funny and/or clever, is all.

by Benne on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Helicopter Rosenfels is the legend of legends

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 2:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I gave you your goddamn rec, Danny.

Happy? But seriously, this was very much needed and I appreciate it. Love what you’ve done with the place.

by the other side on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

yep

Danny, I appreciate the repost. I am new and just use the mobile app, so navigation around the site for things like rules is not automatic. also my phone does not seem to want to capitalize at the start of sentences for some reason. sorry.

by Gabe on Jan 24, 2012 5:12 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

Yup.

On mobile for some reason there is no auto-spell or auto-capitalization in the subject line. It’s a small hurdle that everyone appreciates that you jump. Often I’ll write my subject line in the body then copy/paste to the subject line. Especially if I’m using larger words, as I am not gifted at spelling(or writing).

by brugg on Jan 24, 2012 5:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Another drawback of the mobile app.

FanShots are not shown so when Danny frontpages Lynch to the probowl there is no way of even seeing it through the mobile app. I only know it exists because I can see it on the mobile site.

by bigtrain21 on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Danny

You’ve done a great job with Field Gulls. You were part of the family, not mom’s new boyfriend.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 24, 2012 6:30 PM PST reply actions  

But Danny takes us out for ice cream

and lets us stay up as long as we want!

"That's funny. I post here all the time and I never see (you) here."
- GreatGoogly, to John Morgan

"John Morgan IS Field Gulls, asshole!"

by Clendy on Jan 24, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Father John found something better...

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Jan 25, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously though

The guy in the blue wig looks like he should be in the “Jizzed in my pants” video.

Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters

by SSreporters on Jan 24, 2012 6:39 PM PST reply actions  

Isn't that Rik from the Young Ones?

Who knew he was a Seahawks fan?!

(a) yes I am kidding
(b) yes I probably just outed myself as old
© who would argue with the interrobang?!

by Optic on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks like the chicken manlady thing

from Kids in the Hall.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. - Al Swearengen

by Lo Pann on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Beeks is about to ninja you

I prefer to think of him as often brutally honest.

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Same difference.

“Brutally honest” is just “fucking asshole” with a nice sugar coating.

Jon Ryan = QBOTF

by NinjaHawk on Jan 24, 2012 7:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yup, you're gonna have a blade sticking out of your chest soon enough.....

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

"fucking asshole"

BrianL?

Had to use sarcasm font just to be sure this time. Hope it didn’t kill the jab. But it was a weak jab, not trying to start anything here, I’m just being a little opportunistic. Sorry if that came across dickish. Or dicky. Or dicklike. Or even dicktastically, for that matter.

Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 24, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

But you're not nearly as terrible as Aaron Curry or Kelly Jennings

“The useless sack of shit”.

Actually you are worse than Brian Russell, but since the coaches see Russell as competent because he keeps starting, he must be good. Therefore, you must be good. If the staff sees you as a viable moderator then you clearly have to be good.

Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters

by SSreporters on Jan 24, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I picture my Beeks in a tuxedo t shirt playing for the Eagles

And I’m in the front row, just hammered drunk.

It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.

by SGT Lenny on Jan 25, 2012 11:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you, but I don't agree

You, me, any writer here, we all put in our time for free. That should certainly be appreciated, but it doesn’t exempt us from criticism. People should not just feel free to be critical of content, it should be encouraged, because the interactive process between community and writers is the lifeblood of any blog. As long as you’re not an asshole about it, and Ninjahawk was not.

Besides, it has been made abundantly clear to me before that my brusque tone of commentary is pretty unwelcome here on this incarnation of Field Gulls, and try as I might I never seem to be able to change it for any extended period of times. I think it’s an outlet thing, since I’m too much of a nice guy in real life (Yeah, I know. “What?” It’s true though). See how much agreement Ninjahawk has, in the form of the encouraged reccing. That’s not new or surprising, it just is what it is.

We keep going over this so it’s becoming a bit of a broken record, but again; Field Gulls is a different entity now. Most of the story content is commentary (humorous or otherwise) or filler, rather than analysis, and the vast majority of it is highly positive and fan-emotion-based. Since that is the content, that is the level of commentary you encourage, and the new commentators you draw in. And that, in turn, means that blunt and “boring” analysis becomes unwelcome, both in comments and, inevitably, in stories. You can add as many writers as you like, but a blog will inevitably get a tone, a tenor, a dominant narrative that welcomes one level of discourse and discourages another. Even though my “job” on the last incarnation of FG was just doing newsbits with Craig and acting as a foil to John Morgan, I think it’s pretty unquestionable that I fit in better there than here. Which is fine.

PS: I do love association football, though. But I think I like the NFL better.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 4:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Please don't leave us.

All those reasons you stated above are exactly why you’re so valuable here.

by Danny Kelly on Jan 25, 2012 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

Beekers isn’t the most tactful writer here, but I always appreciate his analysis. He makes FG a better site.

by Nshima on Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Not quite.

No one takes issue with you because your commenting is too dry or too boring or over-analytical. It’s that you often come across as insulting, condescending, and mean-spirited.
You seem to enjoy bullying commenters and making sure it’s crystal clear that they are not as smart as you are.

I enjoy your writing. I think you do a good job of explaining some very complex ideas, and I know I’ve learned some things from your articles. Just don’t be such a dick, ok?

Jon Ryan = QBOTF

by NinjaHawk on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Agree to disagree.

I stand by what I said.

Jon Ryan = QBOTF

by NinjaHawk on Jan 25, 2012 10:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I know

Just realize it’s not intentional. I’m not trying to insult anyone, in fact I hate it when I realize I did (especially my fellow writers, which happens way more than it should). If you see threads caused to go off tangent due to me disappear, it’s usually because I hid my own post.

I don’t think I’ll ever pitter-patter around the issue or be circumspect in politeness, or say anything other than “you’re wrong” when someone is wrong. And I think part of it is cultural differences. But I’m not really making excuses. Just saying, it’s not intentional, and feel free to nudge me whenever I seem out of line.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you for the response.

Fair enough, and I apologize if I came across in the same way I was criticizing you for. As the young whippersnappers say, “It’s all good, yo”.

Jon Ryan = QBOTF

by NinjaHawk on Jan 25, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I can't tell the difference

between your tone and mine, but I don’t think I generate the same kind of resentment out of a select few, that you have at times. Same with John. I would even say John influenced my online voice, and not just here.

So I think it’s not just tone, but tone with negativity. If I went around being super brusque and brash but was all like, “you don’t know what you’re talking about. Seattle will win a championship next year,” I don’t think people would be quite as put off.

So speaking as someone who at times has been irked by Thomas, Nate Dogg, John, and occasionally others, I sometimes then realize my offense is more pride than that the tone was inappropriate. I would rather a straightforward blunt tone than a sugar-coated one, for the community. There are tactful ways of countering that, and respect is a critical part of really good discourse. But pleasantries over honesty is not.

Head of catering.

by jacobstevens on Jan 25, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

All due respect to other writers

But your hard core and objective analysis is why I come here. I can get the rah rah SEAHAWKS fan stuff in many places. My vote goes for you to keep it up.

Also, my phone autocorrects SEAHAWKS to all caps. That is not against the rules, right?

by Gabe on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 PM PST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks

Wish I could say I had something in the works now, but I don’t. I had something planned last week (on the defense), then lacked the motivation to actually write it. Maybe I’ll do so now. The blog moves fast, if I don’t have something up for two weeks it feels like two years.

Can’t say I’m brimming with ideas either. Maybe I should put in a suggestions box.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

You just did.

I’d love your study-take on the two coordinators, mostly Bevell. With Carroll & Bradley, there seemed to be a shift from the 2010 Bandit pressure packages with DBs to using LBs more, while LB blitzing with Bradley under Mora and Carroll always seemed underutilized.

Also a look at potential alternatives to Flynn & Griffin would be nice.

I expect these reports on my desk by Monday morning, Beekers! Anyway thanks if you ever get to them.

Head of catering.

by jacobstevens on Jan 25, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Beeks

I’d love it if you felt able to start up some Season Retrospective pieces on individual players with tape study and implications and thoughts on their year. That’s on my list eventually but frankly that kind of stuff is your specialty. Anyway, just an idea.

You could revisit the “Seahawks on the Precipice” series and see what happened – if I remember correctly you did “best case/worst case” scenarios and you could identify the actual end result.

For what it’s worth, I think everyone around here is experiencing a bit of writers block. Ideas are always welcome, seriously.

by Danny Kelly on Jan 25, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps

I didn’t do that many, and of course quite a few of the “guys that could have an impact” ended up barely playing any snaps. Nature of the NFL.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I emailed FGs attn: Beekers about an idea I had.

I was hoping to get some direction from you to expand my understanding of defense. I just was thrown into a new section of my work, so my timeline on that is going to change. You can take part or all of that idea if you like. I was hoping to get a return email from you on that.

by cashless on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I got that, forgot to mail back

Mostly because I have nothing to mail back, really.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 26, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

That's 300% disagreement if you're scoring at home.

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Jan 25, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

rimshot

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Jan 25, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Since we are using the term "association football" here I thought I'd offer an etymological note.

The word “soccer” comes from “association”, in that very context. ~“Socia”, ~“soccer”.

Beeks, you are great and don’t ever change.

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Jan 25, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

THAT'S SO COOL!

Sorry, etymology nerd moment.

As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.

by Cheddar28 on Jan 25, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

This incarnation of Field Gulls is in woeful need of brusque, analytical commenatry.

We would do well to have more writers like you. Frankly, this version of Field gulls has more than enough subjective opinion pieces and irrational conjecture.

I think this place is giving my left brain cancer, recently.

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 25, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I'll tell you this much

This site would be a hell of a lot different if McCain was president!

I've got ridiculous upside.
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Follow @JacsonBevens

by Jacson Bevens on Jan 25, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

No politics!

Jeez Jacson, are you trying to break every rule we have in this story’s threads?

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

WWJD?

I've got ridiculous upside.
-
Follow @JacsonBevens

by Jacson Bevens on Jan 25, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Every time you break a rule

An angel loses its wings.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I just wana say on this note, however,

and maybe I’m the only one, but I’ve felt bombarded by content this season and like I have to wade through a lot of stuff to find what I’m more interested in reading. The frequency of front page articles (often long ones at that) has also meant that commentary and discussion has less time to develop as participation declines as the given article is pushed down. Just my 2 cents.

I admire and appreciate all our new contributors’ work but…yeah.

As for the Seahawks, they shall have stars at elbow and foot...Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion.

by Cheddar28 on Jan 25, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

We know

I imagine it’s fairly unpleasant, especially for infrequent readers, but SBNation wants you to hit certain minimums. I have disagreed with this policy with day one, but we don’t make the policy, just execute it.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 26, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Massively disagree.

Beekers is a needed voice of reason. He’s not afraid to cut through bullshit, which might rub some the wrong way.

by redwolf75 on Jan 25, 2012 7:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hi, new readers/lurkers!

The only real contribution I have to add is this: use the rec/flag buttons. The rec button is a great tool—if you agree with a post or find it funny, but don’t have anything to add beyond “LOL/I agree”, click that rec button, and it does your job for you.

On the other hand, please, please, please use the flag button more often. Brian, Kenny and I can’t be online all the time to catch bad comments in the bud. Flagging bad comments makes bad comments turn bright red, so we can more easily spot bad comments and take proper action.

Basically, my endgame here is less bad comments and more smart/funny comments. It’s what got me into the community in the first place.

by Benne on Jan 24, 2012 9:15 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Is it just bright red for mods?

Because I never get to see them. :(

Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters

by SSreporters on Jan 24, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

But the key here is that when you flag a comment, moderators WILL see it.

So there’s no need for 75+ comment threads wherein people scream at each other. Flag it, we’ll spot it either when we load up the thread or when we take a look at the moderator log page.

by BrianL on Jan 24, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

When I loaded up the moderator log that day I stared in stunned disbelief for a few minutes.

And then I curled into the fetal position and wept for the human race.

by BrianL on Jan 24, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

What the heck are you referring too?

It sounds like a significant event in the storied history of Field Gulls.

Long suffering, committed Seahawks/Packers fan

by chin64 on Jan 24, 2012 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Fantasy football commissioner

It was bananas, B A N A N A S.

It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.

by SGT Lenny on Jan 25, 2012 12:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Go to the 49ers/Seahawks week 1 final game thread

Chaos ensues towards the bottom and seeps into the post-game.

Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters

by SSreporters on Jan 25, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

So many staff writers!

Doesn’t Field Gulls have a salary cap?

by Nshima on Jan 24, 2012 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

Ahhh yes, there we go.

Y’all are so easy to manipulate. :)

(Also, I hope everyone else picked up on the Lewis CK reference, because yay awesome comedian)

The artist formerly known as mattlock.

Twitter! -- Facebook!

by Matt Erickson on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

We work on the NCAA principle of compensation

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 2:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That's fine

But we better win the bowl game, then.

Formerly known as Vasilii, follow me on twitter @dolgorukii

by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Nicely done.

May I take this opportunity to plug Taylor Marsh, “The Cartel”?

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Jan 25, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn you people who are the 'League of Gentlemen with Real Names'

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Don't be an idiot. If an idiot would do that, then don't do it. Muahahahaaha back on twitter

by RagingAlot on Jan 24, 2012 10:34 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

There's an app?

Damn, I’ve been missing out. In my defense, I just got a new smartphone (its totally an iPhone but I didn’t want to sound pretentious).

I'm kind of a big deal...

by Benny Boy on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 AM PST reply actions  

No you haven't.

Besides easily deciphering which comments are new and exactly when a comment was made the mobile site seems far superior to the apps.

by brugg on Jan 25, 2012 3:03 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

This is the all-time best Seahawks fan picture.

I wish we could have it on the front page, seriously. It is amazing.

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Anger in arguments.

I always find it hilarious when people start getting angry in discussions about things like sports. Some people can’t take criticism and argue against a counterpoint without getting angry.

by TheFranchise78 on Jan 26, 2012 2:58 AM PST reply actions  

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