Seahawks Roster Analysis: Running Backs
I'm very organized by nature. I think it is why I do coffee and cigarettes every morning - I like to have everything that I want to read laid out in a neat little list that I can just go down one by one. I am extremely neat and tidy and clutter, chaos, or loose ends really stress me out. I think that's why I've been looking forward to doing this series. Let's lay out exactly what the Seahawks have at each position and then we can start talking about free agency and the draft with a more in-depth angle. Now, obviously, 99% of you already know which players are on the Seahawks, but I'm going to give you my take and then you give me yours.
First off - as a primer, here follows the initial 53-man roster from the beginning of the 2011 regular season:
Offense:
QB: Tarvaris Jackson, Charlie Whitehurst, Josh Portis
RB: Marshawn Lynch, Leon Washington, Justin Forsett
FB: Michael Robinson
WR: Sidney Rice, Mike Williams, Ben Obomanu, Golden Tate, Kris Durham, Doug Baldwin
TE: Zach Miller, Anthony McCoy, Dominique Byrd
LT: Russell Okung, Tyler Polumbus
LG: Robert Gallery, Paul McQuistan
C: Max Unger, Lemuel Jeanpierre
RG: John Moffitt
RT: James Carpenter, Breno Giacomini, Jarriel King
Defense:
DE: Chris Clemons, Raheem Brock, Dexter Davis, Red Bryant, Al Woods
DT: Alan Branch, Brandon Mebane, Clinton McDonald, Landon Cohen
LB: David Hawthorne, Leroy Hill, Aaron Curry, KJ Wright, Matt McCoy, Malcolm Smith
CB: Marcus Trufant, Walter Thurmond, Brandon Browner, Richard Sherman, Byron Maxwell
S: Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, Jeron Johnson, Atari Bigby
Things didn't change a whole hell of a lot from that list - Dominique Byrd was released early in the year despite showing some promise in training camp, Tyler Polumbus was a similar story, but his departure came a little later. Apart from that, the offense remained relatively stagnant, which is kind of surprising, considering the 2010 season. Remember Quinton Ganther? Anyway, players were added and released to account for injuries (we barely knew ye Eddie Williams) but by and large, the offense didn't undergo a huge makeover in-season, save for a few PUP guys that came on mid-season.
On the defensive side, a fairly similar story. Al Woods came and went and we heard probably five words about him the whole time. Same with Landon Cohen. The Aaron Curry trade was rather blockbuster, but apart from that, again, no major makeovers and the Seahawks really relied on their initial 53-man team to perform the whole season. Heath Farwell replace Matt McCoy on special teams, primarily, as did David Vobora. The Hawks went back and got Kennard Cox to specialize on gunning as well. Some guy named Philip Adams is on the team, I guess. But I don't think he played. Waiver wire pickup Chris Maragos saw some action, very briefly. That's it, I think.
Anyway, because I'm sick of talking about quarterbacks, let's start with running backs. Right now (or more technically, as of the end of the league year, which is coming up), the Seahawks have one running back on their official roster, and his name is Leon Washington. Justin Forsett is a free agent. Michael Robinson is a free agent. Marshawn Lynch, - yep - is a free agent.
The Hawks have two running backs signed to futures contracts - Tyrell Sutton and Vai Taua. Sutton is new, and seemingly replaced Jay Finley on the offseason practice squad (no word on where Finley ended up, if anywhere). Taua has been with the team the whole year, on the practice squad and for four weeks on the suspended list.
Anyway, let's break it down.
Marshawn Lynch: Though it does seem like a no-brainer to bring him back, I'm sure money will be an issue for both sides and we may be treated to a little suspense. That said, I think eventually they will get something done. Lynch was brought in very purposefully via trade and the offense has sort of been built around his style. Some people think he's overrated, but I don't necessarily believe that he's fungible with any free agent or journeyman running back on the market, and certainly not with the players Seattle has been testing out on the practice squad or with futures contracts.
If you're going to replace Lynch, I think you have to do so with a high draft pick or a big chunk of change on the market. I'm not going to get into potential candidates in this particular article, but in my mind it makes the most sense to re-sign the guy that is one of the main faces of your franchise, and not because he's a total weirdo, but because he's good. His running style lends to what the Seahawks are trying to do on offense and we heard Tom Cable talk about this shortly after the season.
Cable essentially implored to Lynch to do what he's asking from points A to B, then once he's to B, how he gets to C is his prerogative. Well, that apparently worked, and the dancing behind the line and hesitation ceased. Once Lynch gets to point B, he has an uncanny talent for keeping his legs churning and moving and his pads low, and a two yard gain turns into four. A four yarder turns into eight, and every once in a while, he emerges from the scrum unscathed for a glorious touchdown run.
In all seriousness though, Lynch upped his game this year and even became a pretty dangerous weapon receiving passes out of the backfield. Bottom line, he fits here, he's still young enough to warrant a new contract, and he's proven he can be effective.
Michael Robinson: It's kind of tough to judge a fullback in the way that it's kind of tough to evaluate an offensive lineman. If Mike Rob misses a block, you notice it, but 90% of the time you're watching the guy running behind him instead. It's tough to judge a special teamer unless he's the gunner or whiffs on an easy tackle. Now, because, in all honesty, I didn't notice Robinson all that much this year on offense or special teams, outside of a few booming blocks laid out (including one on Ray Lewis that knocked him on his ass), I guess I'll defer to the experts on this and if the coaches and players voted him to the Pro Bowl, I'll take their word for it. Robinson was an effective blocker. He was effective on special teams. His teammates voted him to captain. Does that mean the Seahawks will re-sign him? I assume so.
It seems like he wants to stay. He certainly fits here. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy to go off looking for more money and fullbacks don't make much as it is. If I'm putting money on it, Robinson will be signed to a modest three-year deal much like we saw happen with Mike Williams and Ben Obomanu last year. No fanfare.
Justin Forsett: Forsett just never really seemed to get on track this year. He had limited carries - just 46 on the season - in limited snaps and he failed to really capitalize on his chances. Now, he's known as an effective back in pass protection and he's proficient catching passes out of the backfield so his role is pretty clearly defined as a 3rd down back. When Marshawn Lynch went out in Week 7 against Cleveland in warmups, the Hawks looked not to Forsett to start but instead to Leon the Professional. The eight times he carried in that game, Justin averaged 2.9 yards gained. That was a fairly common theme and he ended the year with a meager 3.2 ypc.
He didn't look particularly explosive or powerful, and he didn't look the same as the flashy, shifty little dude we grew to love after he was drafted out of Cal in '08. So he was kind of stuck in this dead zone of limited usefulness - a guy that is dependable in pass pro and can catch a pass or two in third and long so Jon Ryan only has to punt it 55 yards instead of 60.
Now, if given more chances to get in a groove and more in tune with the offense maybe Forsett could be more effective, but we just didn't get a chance to see that this year. I don't get the feeling that the Seahawks will bring him back and instead they'll look to draft a RB or develop one of their young players on a futures contract.
Leon Washington: Washington was a little frustrating in that he didn't get the ball as much as you would have liked. When he did get touches though, he was often effective, and sometimes electrifying. He's pretty much what you'd hope for in a 'change-of-pace' back - fast, shifty, decisive, sure-handed, smart - and possesses that home-run potential that makes him dangerous. When used sparingly, as he was in '11, he's a nice luxury but by no means is a feature-type back. He's not going to break many tackles, and when nothing is there, nothing is what he'll get. Regardless, I assume he'll be back (he's still under contract) because he's a dynamic player and a dependable kick/punt returner.
In my mind's eye, Tyrell Sutton and Vai Taua are pretty much the same player - both sturdy at 5'8, 5'9, 215 pounds and fundamental. Tough runners, adept blockers, good receivers. Neither has top level speed or shiftiness, but both possess the toughness and aggressiveness to run between the tackles and keep their feet moving. They just seem like Tom Cable type utility backs and though both likely possess ceilings as backups, are intriguing.
What kind of players are John Schneider, Pete Carroll, Darrell Bevell, and Tom Cable looking for at that position?What is the prototype? This season, we saw two smaller backs behind Lynch with an undersize fullback in Mike Rob.
To me, I see Cable's ideal backfield comprised of two big backs, a midsized fullback, and a change of pace guy. If one of the big backs goes down, the next guy steps up and gets you positive yardage. It's a punch you in the mouth mentality, a run right through you philosophy. The change of pace guy keeps defenses on their heels. I could be wrong on that assessment, but that's just how I see Cable and his style.
The Hawks have churned through a few running backs at the back of their roster this season, perhaps offering a glimpse of what they're looking for, starting with Chris Henry (5'11 234), going to Thomas Clayton (5'11, 222), and taking a long look at Vai Taua. They brought in Jay Finley (5'11, 203) briefly then replaced him with Tyrell Sutton. It's tough to identify exactly what they're sifting for.
With Seattle's lead back, 3rd down back, and fullback about to become free agents, what happens in the Seahawks backfield this offseason is one of the more interesting storylines to keep an eye on.
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So if Forsett is gone (and I also think he is)
and I accept your premise that Cable wants two big backs and a change-of-pace back, I think the Hawks re-up Lynch and then go with a bigger back in the draft, assuming that Leon is the primary change-of-pace back.
What do you guys think of Marc Tyler out of USC as a mid-round possibility? I also noticed on draft boards an underclassman from South Florida who is 6’1 and about 240 – Darrell Scott. I don’t watch Big East football, so I know nothing about this dude. Just throwing some names out there.
Marc Tyler is interesting for sure.
I also become interested in Terrance Ganaway (240 lbs) after he tore the Huskies a new one, but reports from the Senior Bowl haven’t been all that favorable.
I had the same type of reaction after the senior bowl.
What are people saying about his week so far of practice?
I wouldn't mind seeing them make a play for Michael Bush.
Thought it looks like Raiders might toss a franchise tag on him.
by gongawz on Jan 25, 2012 3:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Michael Bush will want a starting job and money, since that's what he should get
We can’t really offer him either. Between Lynch (no idea, but easily well over $10 million for his first year) and Washington (3 million), we’ll have quite a bit of cash tied up in the spot. A spot notorious for its capacity to be filled by cheap players.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, agree.
Don’t see it, also because he’s 29. Seems like the Hawks will try to find a diamond in the rough later (a la James Starks or something) before they’d sign Bush.
28 when the season starts, as far as I can see
Still too old. Dude’s had some rough breaks, sadly. He really deserves to start somewhere, hope him much success, however short-lived.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
CHRISHENRYCHRISHENRYCHRISHENRY
I mean, uh, sure. Replace Forsett with a bigger guy. Likely in the draft. Makes sense to me.
Leon Washington’s year is a bit mistifying to me. Not worrisome, just mistifying. I kind of expect more out of him even on limited touches.
Robinson had a fine year from what I could see. I wouldn’t consider him a top-tier fullback, but I dunno, that’s not really a big “thing” anyway.
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Did you photoshop that? I’m speechless it’s so amazing.
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We need a full-res version, yesterday.
by jhmg16 on Jan 25, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes, chopped it up (with paint.net, Photoshop is too rich for my blood)
Had an inspired moment after the lime green jersey/hawk trolling pride discussion, found an image of Seneca Wallace (apropos) and put it together.
jhmg: the version in my profile is about as full-sized as it gets, though SBN’s formatting did clip the wings a littile:

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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 12 recs
My chop skills are rather limited. If anyone wants to make a better version, please do.
Apropos, this beauty would also have been a candidate, if only it weren’t an eagle. I still love that expression.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Washington
Didn’t seem very effective in punt returns at the end of the year. Not sure what was happening. At least he didn’t fumble.
I am in favor of drafting a new punt returner.
For a second I read that as "drafting a new punter"
And I started to write:
Blasphemer! JON RYAN 4EVA!!!!!
by nucleard on Jan 25, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Landon Cohen cut back in Sept, add Adrian Taylor to the DT list
“Taylor, at 6-foot-3, 311 pounds, played for the University of Oklahoma and tore his Achilles and missed the final four games of his senior season.”
Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2012/01/06/morning-links-2-more-sign-futures-contracts/#storylink=cpy
Is Chris Ivory available?
I haven’t looked into it too much but he seems like the odd man out in NO since they already have Ingram/Thomas/Sproles. He could be the type of power runner to back up Lynch.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
I've been advocating this actually, funny you mention it.
It’s wildly speculative, but I wouldn’t be against the Hawks making a move on draft day for Ivory. He’s young, with next to no miles.
I loved/hated watching him bounce off of our tackles when we played NO.
I think he fits the bill.
Does he have an injury history?
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
Injury prone
And could get a cheap 6-7th rounder who could do the same thing.
Yeah
Maybe I’m a little curmudgeonly, but I don’ t really believe in high draft picks or big FA money for RBs.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
I know.
But I want a good power back to compliment Beast.
"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff
I had a question for you guys,
is anyone else interested in pursuing Trent Richardson in the draft? The way I see it there are about 4 elite players that I think are worthy of a top 10 pick. They are Cailborne, Luck, Griffin, and Richardson. Of them , I think richardson is the only to fall to us and would be ecstatic if we re signed him.
I think of it this way, we have a bruising powerful runner in lynch, but the lifespan of that type of runner is short and if you have the opportunity to both lengthen his career and get a top end talent (on the level of adrian peterson) I would jump at it.
What are your thoughts on that?
Both Lynch and Richardson would be a tremendous waste of value
And while offensive skill players are sexy picks, I think a running back at the top of the first round is usually a bit of folly. The high-end franchise RB doesn’t really have a spot in the modern NFL anymore, I don’t think, and for us Richardson’s value is diminished as we already have a foundational back.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 25, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
I hate the idea of spending a 1st on a RB (especially a top-15 pick)
Aside from Peterson, how many 1st-round RBs have justified their draft slot? I remember when Moreno and Wells were being called “elite”. RBs are too fungible, depend too much on their OL and have careers too short to invest so much in them.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 25, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
What do you think about a trade down in the 2nd.....
pick up an extra 3rd pick and select Polk in the 2nd out of Washington? Home boy, size and production all in one….
this would be fun
If they get a DE in the first, trade down, get Polk in the second, then draft Osweilier and Cousins in the third.
Get pass rusher, get Beast Mo jr. and QB Hilarity ensues. What a fun offseason that would be.
by Chooch82 on Jan 25, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This may not be the most practical or realistic idea...
But the homer in me refuses to stop rosterbating to this idea at least until the draft passes us by and it doesn’t materialize.
I’d be the first in line to buy a “Polk” Seahawks jersey.
It's really hard for me to say
Being the enormous homer that I am, but Polk looked like he lost a bit of a step this year. I know that seems crazy given his numbers, but I felt he ran much stronger/better last year. I know part of that was injuries, but it also sounds like his Senior Bowl experience was pretty underwhelming for scouts.
I've only heard good things about Polk so far.
“Leslie Frazier (Vikings), head coach of the North squad, spoke at length about Polk, a 224-pounder who registered back-to-back 1,400-yard seasons for the Huskies. “You can see that burst that he has,” Frazier said. “He could run through some of those ‘thud’ tackles.” Frazier also said that Polk has the potential to be an effective pass protector."
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Does Adrian Peterson justify his draft slot though?
Yes, he is successful. Yes, he is one of the top 5 running backs in the league and has been since day one. But do we not judge success of a draft pick on the success of a team, at least to a significant degree?
Top 15 running backs since 2005:
Ronnie Brown
Cedric Benson
Cadillac Williams
Reggie Bush
Adrian Peterson
Marshawn Lynch
Darren McFadden
Jonathan Stewart
Knowshon Moreno
Ryan Mathews
That’s 10 running backs in five years. Those teams being: Miami, Chicago, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Minnesota, Buffalo, Oakland, Carolina, Denver, San Diego.
Hmmm.. a lot of unsuccessful teams. The Saints turned around in 2006 because of Drew Brees and won a Super Bowl with Bush and while he wasn’t of zero value, he was never a #1 running back, or even much of a “running back” at all with the Saints. Chicago had success but not because of Benson, and he was not the #1 back. The Dolphins had one year of success because of the versatility of Brown to allow them to run the wildcat offense, but was he as valuable as the rookie Jake Long? Before Long, they were still terrible.
Hmmm.. a lot of unsuccessful teams. The Saints turned around in 2006 because of Drew Brees and won a Super Bowl with Bush and while he wasn’t of zero value, he was never a #1 running back, or even much of a “running back” at all with the Saints. Chicago had success but not because of Benson, and he was not the #1 back. The Dolphins had one year of success because of the versatility of Brown to allow them to run the wildcat offense, but was he as valuable as the rookie Jake Long? Before Long, they were still terrible.I have a hard time believing that any of those players justified their draft slot, in comparison to a premium LT, QB, DE. A top 15 RB is a luxury pick, in my opinion. If you’re picking in the top 15, you PROBABLY have a bigger need.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Jan 26, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Remember Thomas Clayton
What do people think of Chris Polk? I watched him these last couple of years at Washington and not only is he a bruiser, but he has soft hands too.
I remember Thomas Clayton
I thought he did really well this past year in the pre season. What ever happened to him?
by darthmaul5456 on Jan 26, 2012 7:56 AM PST up reply actions
I thought i saw him sign somewhere
I want to say with Cleveland but i could be wrong. I liked Clayton a lot though and was pretty bummed that he didn’t make the original 53 man roster.
What about
Ricky “sticky” Williams? Honestly I would love to see him as a Hawk. More of a band aid but he can still bring it.
by Redzone59 on Jan 25, 2012 9:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Speed Kills
The Hawks need a combination of thunder and lighting. Wear out the defense with Lynch, then insert LaMichael James to make them run. He is shifty like Forsett, but with 4.3 speed. You could pick him up in the second round.
He will be there in the third or fourth
At least that’s my guess. Most think he is a more system then feature back.
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Saw a documentary on....
the Rams back in the Greatest Show on Turf Days, that was highlighting the benefits of Faulk. They had Warner talking about how smart he was and how the offense heavily revolved around not just his very versatile skill set, but his ability to see things on the field in pre-snap reads and react. Warner said it was like having a second QB on the field, and attributed a huge part of their success to the things he saw and the calls he made. Sounded almost as if he was calling out audibles to help Warner. Got me thinking that maybe there is more to just running that can be had out of a running back. Anyone have insight or thoughts on this?
This is a really good point.
Smart NFL teams should start exploiting this. Basically all positions are valued for sheer physical ability, even kicker. Other positions are valued also for smarts … but most of those smarts are expected to apply to the player’s own responsibilities. That is, a smart fast corner is better than a stupid fast corner, because the smart corner will make fewer mistakes and have better judgement.
But very few positions are openly valued for how that player’s smarts will affect his teammates. Quarterback is the obvious “smart” position. Middle linebacker (in most schemes), center, and safety are other positions from which players are expected to expand their smarts to help influence their teammates and make their teammates smarter.
But Crominator’s example of a super-smart RB (Faulk) brings up an interesting point. RB’s are always in the backfield, usually closely aligned behind center. Just like quarterback, center, safety and middle linebacker, they are in the center of the field (unlike receivers and corners, for example), and they are on the field often more often than not (unlike situational pass rushers, or tight ends).
Physical skills are obviously the most important aspect of any player, but perhaps smarts at the RB position are underrated enough that a sharp front office could find free extra value in a player by rating someone slightly higher based on his ability to be a “second quarterback.” Sure seemed to work for St. Louis back in the day.
Other than Marshall Faulk, some really smart/intuitive backs I can think of include Brian Westbrook and Walter Payton. Any other thoughts on this?
Sure, but Faulk was really one-of-a-kind
RBs aren’t only valued for their running. But it’s usually blocking, pass-catching and running, not so much reading defenses. I wouldn’t be able to rattle off a list of running backs that can do it, because it’s not required in college, nor are they scouted for this skill-set.
We’d sooner get it out of Michael Robinson than Marshawn Lynch.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 26, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Lynch
if nothing else we’ll franchise him, but I don’t think they ‘want’ to do that… anyone think that due to Lynch and Forsett being best buddies that they’re a package deal? End of the day money talks, but if money is close and Forsett going with him, may make a difference. Just throwing it out there.
It would be possible to make Forsett an assistant RBs coach. Just a thought.
Smashmouth is the new sexy!
LeMichel James with 2nd round pick
Though, despite what the draft pundits say, I think it likely he’s going to get snatched late first.
I really think he’s the perfect fit as a change of pace and 3rd down back. What say you?
by Great Sergios Ghost on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 PM PST reply actions
Why pass on Richardson
In the first and then pick an inferior rb in the second? Are we going to commit to a running game or not?
by AlaskaHawk on Jan 26, 2012 12:02 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I'd really like them to draft a young guy in one of the middle rounds.
I’ve never been enamored with Lynch and even if he plays like his second half next year, I’d love to start developing his replacement. If nothing else a quick young pass catcher would be helpful. Lynch is a bruising RB with a questionable track record and free agency after the year, so the more insurance we have, the better.
by MT Olson on Jan 26, 2012 7:24 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I would love Polk
You could have Lynch and Polk out there at the same time and create all kinds of match up problems. Just a thought.
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