Senior Bowl Game Thread
by Danny Kelly on Jan 28, 2012 12:00 PM PST
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PrintWatching the Senior Bowl? Wondering how to watch the Senior Bowl? Want to talk about the Senior Bowl? Bored? Do all of these apply to you? I hope so!
It starts up at 12:30 PM PT on the NFL Network for Pre-game stuff, then gametime is at 1:00. Paul Burmeister gets the call with analysts Mike Mayock and Charles Davis joining him. Rebecca Haarlow and Heath Evans provide reports from the sidelines.
I have to say - Mike Mayock and Charles Davis is one hell of a commentator team. Talk about it. The game I mean. Or Mayock and Davis too, if you like.
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Lynch: "We can and we will."
When asked about the Seahawks winning the west next year. I know it means nothing but its cool to hear Lynch include himself in the team moving forward.
Cousins looks like Adam Sandler in the Longest Yard in that pic.
or Waterboy.
Little dude in giant pads.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
That's what a Borg Captain Kirk would look like
Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 28, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Who are you guys looking forward to watch
I am interested in Cousins and Upshaw
by spokahawk on Jan 28, 2012 1:01 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Kirk Cousins
I liked the clips of him from Michigan
Yeah, those two will be interesting.
Jeff Fuller, Jake Bequette, Jaye Howard, Dwight Jones and Sean Spence are all guys I’ll be interested to watch on the South team. LaVonte David, Vinny Curry, Cam Johnson, Marvin Jones, Kelechi Osemele, and Kendell Reyes on the North.
I hope Polk doesn't impress too much
I want him in a Seahawks jersey
by spokahawk on Jan 28, 2012 1:14 PM PST via Android app reply actions
damage is done, most the scouts already left.
They don’t even watch the game.
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They have lots of game tape on these guys already.
These all star games are the first chance for scouts to see how they practice, get a feel for their work ethic and stuff.
Then what's the point of claiming one player's stock rose
or one player’s dropped based on their performances in the practices? It’s stupid either way.
He just said what the point is
What scouts already know is game performance, what they get a sense of here is practice attitude and performance. Seems pretty clear-cut.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jan 28, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
I think the game matters
I just think the scouts can see more on the game tape from the game. Every single scout that attended the Senior Bowl practices will watch this game tape. I feel comfortable saying that.
by bigtrain21 on Jan 28, 2012 1:42 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Practice habits and work ethic, sure.
But judging a player’s performance is just stupid since, you know, it’s practice.
just practice?
You don’t sound like much of a coach, coach.
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It's just a data point.
They’re not ignoring game performance. They have real game tape and like Bigtrain said, they’ll probably watch tape of this game as well. And then they’re run them through a ton of drills at the combine.
The actual game tape the scouts have is probably the most important part, but they aren’t judged on any one thing.
This game is like a 11 on 11 drill.
You can’t get much from it because of the modified rules.
No blitzes, no motions on offense, no grounding, cover 1 or 3 D only.
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Man, you talking about practice. Practice, man. Not a game. Not a game man, practice we talkin about practice man. Practice.
I mean, how silly is that? It’s not a game.
by B.B.Finnegan on Jan 28, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They get run through NFL drills by NFL coaches
to see how they react. The game has stupid all star rules like the pro bowl to keep injuries down- so it doesn’t tell you much.
It’s just an exhibition.
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also you get to see one on one competition between some of the best players
so maybe a top 5 OT prospect spends an hour or two a day competing against a few top 5 DE prospects. 80-90% of the college game tape matchups are between players who will never make the pros, 10% might be an elite player vs a player who will never make the NFL, and maybe 5% or less will actually be matchups between two future NFL players. So seeing who Upshaw does against the best and most mature college OTs in drills over the course of the week gives scouts more perspective on relative power, speed, technique, and work ethic than can necessarily be garnered from game tape – most of which pits Upshaw against some mediocre or worse OT who will never make the NFL.
Smashmouth is the new sexy!
by pqlqi on Jan 28, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Upshaw kinda messed up one play and went meh the rest
Dude looked like an absolute animal in the season though…
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 1:19 PM PST reply actions
Was that Tommy Lee selling out to the finance?
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions
Queen/Prime Minister?
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Coordinator hires and what they mean for QBs
CLE hires Brad Childress — I wonder if that suggests that they’ll look hard at RGIII.
MIA hires Mike Sherman — I wonder if that suggests that the Fish are committed to getting Flynn.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Philbin already came out and said Manning is their #1 target.
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Really?
Wow. I’d been saying the Fish from jump street. The Sherman hire surprised me.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Could not believe the Chilly hire.
This is the guy who Brett Favre said knew nothing about offense, right?
Also can’t believe Cam “Cam” Cameron coming back in Baltimore.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Wilson sucks.
He’s going undrafted. So let’s see somebody else coach.
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Yeah, they both moved themselves into UDFA status.
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Washington NT has been pretty good.
Strong mofo
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 1:36 PM PST reply actions
He's really firing off the ball too.
Definitely helping his stock thus far.
by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 28, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Harbaugh huh?
What’s your deal!?
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
I'm still trying to think of a clever response to that.
No luck thus far. I guess I’ll just stick with
Handshake. Walk away.
by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 28, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Well played
Your should tip off your bro…
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
"The other Harbaugh" is a good category to be in.
John is awesome.
by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 28, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
I guess that didn't work.
Made sense in my head.
by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 28, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Man, if the Huskies just had some talent on D,
they coulda been good.
Or it was just Holt.
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They certainly had
some talent, seems to have been misused. You’d think Ta’amu would’ve shown up a bit more this year.
I'm not a big Ta'amu fan, but his job is to allow the guys around him to make plays.
There were no play makers on that D.
Shirley started showing up
the back half of the season, excited to see him develop. Other than that I agree, I felt like the D were just kind of there.
He was terrible in the Alamo Bowl
He stood up straight on most plays and looked completely unmotivated. He was outstanding in the Holiday Bowl the year before. I am not sure why. When motivated he seems to play great. The problem with drafting him is we don’t know how motivated he will be. It is really easy to give a ton of effort this week when you know a ton of scouts are watching your every move.
by bigtrain21 on Jan 28, 2012 1:47 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Part of that's surely because of the Baylor offense.
UW’s defense was just gassed almost right away.
He stood up
From the entire game. It was effort to me.
by bigtrain21 on Jan 28, 2012 1:52 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Anyone got a link to someone stupid enough to stream the game?
I’m TV-less at the moment.
by BlueThruAndThru on Jan 28, 2012 1:40 PM PST reply actions
Nice block by Martin.
He’d be a good back up to Lynch.
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I would like to see have a chance to run the ball
Instead of just letting Wilson show he is not worth a pick
Sure, but Polk will probably gone by the time we're ready to draft a back.
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Maybe, maybe not.
Not if all these people who think he’s a third or fourth round pick all of a sudden are right. ; )
Why does Ohio State (?) put mariuana leaf-stickers on their helmets?
Anyone?
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 1:44 PM PST reply actions
Huskies LT manhandled Coples on that TD play.
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Yeah, either Coples took the play off,
or Kelemente prison sexed him.
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Yup.
Footballplayer
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, not accurate at all. Even Locker didn't overthrow receivers like that!
Dude is not consistent in where the ball goes at all.
by BlueThruAndThru on Jan 28, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
The best is automatic review of touchdown, commercial, extra point, commercial, kickoff, commercial.
That's why kickoff returns for TD's are awesome.
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Somewhere a NFL producer is freaking out
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 28, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
I just saw him on his knees. That’s already a bad sign.
"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff
It's because he went for a cut block and missed.
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Tried to cut him and missed.
Don’t think that’s Kelemete’s strong suit. Almost looked as bad as Carpenter there.
It was the best
Stops forward momentum completely and lays on his tummy
by jhmg16 on Jan 28, 2012 2:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Uh, has Polk even been in since the first series?
Pretty sure that’s Herron’s second turn in the rotation already.
Since when did Huskies recievers make the Senior Bowl?
"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff
Moore might be worth a 6th or 7th rounder just for the hell of it.
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You're rolling the dice at that point of the draft.
On any position.
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Sure.
But that’s the point where you’re supposed to look for depth at the lines, WR, etc. as well as ST guys. Wasting it on a guy who’s likely a career backup at best is kind of useless. I’d bet that Portis would make the roster over him anyways.
Yeah, our passing scheme sucks ass.
We need to get the best QB we can get and do what he does best.
Because we’re going to be fucking around with clowns like TJ or Sex Cannon or Cholly until the next Elway comes around. It’s fucking stupid.
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he's the guy I want.
But that’s a dead give away we’ll draft somebody else.
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Except he's kind of not.
He doesn’t have the athleticism to rollout which is a pretty big requirement of the WCO. He doesn’t really fit any system.
Yeah I think I'm turning this off
Why this game is turning into such a phenomenon is beyond me. Looking forward to reading any observations you guys have though.
by jhmg16 on Jan 28, 2012 2:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The 2 North Carolina guys, Coples and Brown have looked pretty good on D.
I would not be too surprised to see the Hawks go after either of these guys. Brown seems like the ultra fast LB that pete would love
Ideally, yes.
Brown might be our back-up plan though. I’m high on him.
by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 28, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
seems like Coples has made a lot more plays than Upshaw so far
i read Rob’s post earlier, it was very convincing. Coples has looked good today though
Coples is alright
Haven’t looked at him fully though.
"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff
Given the talent pool,
a reach might not be a reach.
by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 28, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Neither was Carpenter
worth the 25th overall pick
I'd be happy with Seahawks getting 1.Upshaw 2.Lamar Miller or Brock Osweiler 3.Sean Spence 4. Chris Polk or Marcus Forston
These receivers are ten kinds of suck on both teams.
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I like the look of Cousins
Demeanor, mechanics, etc (honestly that’s the only stuff this game seems useful for, these guys are seniors and therefore should have like….a lot…..of tape floating around. That isn’t from totally vanilla schemes.
by jhmg16 on Jan 28, 2012 2:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
From Mike Mayock to Matt Millen.
That’s like reading some of Jeff Sullivan/Rob Neyer/Dave Cameron’s analysis and then some of Bill Bavasi’s
Martin again. Turns nothing into something.
by BlueThruAndThru on Jan 28, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions
So far he's been good on kick returns, good pass blocking, good running, and good
at staying with plays downfield. Not a bad day for him. He’s been well thought of in practice all week too. Definitely showing something out there.
by BlueThruAndThru on Jan 28, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Martin
Is he fast?
I'd be happy with Seahawks getting 1.Upshaw 2.Lamar Miller or Brock Osweiler 3.Sean Spence 4. Chris Polk or Marcus Forston
Yeah, fast but not elite fast.
But he’s an interesting guy, especially considering his experience in that Boise St offense.
Foles looking all kinds of craptacular.
by BlueThruAndThru on Jan 28, 2012 3:01 PM PST reply actions
A Tarsack
Hold the ball to long then roll into the DE
by eohawkfan on Jan 28, 2012 3:06 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Indeed. The LT did his job. The QB held the ball and then just went back, back, back.
Either good coverage downfield or lousy vision by the QB, but the o-line did it’s job reasonably well there.
by BlueThruAndThru on Jan 28, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Words that sound dirty but aren't for two hundred, Alex
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Jan 28, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Moore has been much better as the game has gone on. Still might not ever be a starter QB
But I think in the right system, a hell of a backup option.
by BlueThruAndThru on Jan 28, 2012 3:48 PM PST reply actions
If we drafted Senio in the 2nd-4th round, as a guard, I'd be so darn happy.
Light on his feet, a strong leader, durable. We need a future replacement for Gallery and to push Moffit. Perfect fit.
by B0w1-of-R1ce on Jan 28, 2012 11:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
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