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2012 NFL Draft: Notes on Potential Front-7 Targets for the Seahawks

Earlier this month I did a series of posts on potential targets for the Seahawks at various front seven positions. Here are the links; 3-techs, MLBs, 5-techs, OLBs, and LEOs. Early January might bit premature to put together such lists. Many prospects will rise before the draft in April, others will fall. I think it's good to have a starting point when considering our options though. These past two weeks were a great opportunity for many prospects to show their muster with the East West Shrine Game and Senior Bowl taking place.

The value of college all-star games from an evaluation stand-point is a bit controversial. Some believe it is an excellent chance to see highly rated prospects matched up head-to-head. Others believe you can't trust the results from just one week of practice and a game where the scoreboard is meaningless. The truth of the matter is probably somewhere in between.

John Schneider weighed in on the subject in this article by Clare Farnsworth last off-season.

Schneider learned the player-evaluation game from Ron Wolf while working for the Green Bay Packers, and still recites what he calls a "rule of thumb" handed down by Wolf.

"He always used to say, ‘An all-star game can only help somebody, it can’t hurt somebody.’ Because really what you’re focusing on is how they played in the fall," Schneider said, adding that the process also includes how the player progressed through his career, how he played against the better competition and how he played later in the season when the games often took on more significance.

"Some of the biggest mistakes, just from a pure evaluation standpoint, that I have made have been from all-star games – because the guy had a real nice week at the Senior Bowl. So I might have gone the other way, and not really truly stuck with my feelings on how I felt about him in the fall."

Past the jump you will find notes on how some of the prospects from my lists performed during the past two weeks. You will also find brief scouting reports and film on some prospects who aren't on the lists but should have been. I will indicate what list they should be on and how they might fit into the Hawks plans. With the front seven wrapped up, I will continue on and provide lists for CBs, safeties, RBs, WRs, and QBs in the coming weeks.

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3-techniques

Kendall Reyes (6-4 300) RS Senior from Conneticut - I listed Reyes as a 5-tech mostly due to his height/weight ratio. I have since changed my mind. Reyes is plenty strong enough to play 3-tech. Reports from his Senior Bowl weigh in are that he has an extremely powerful build and further film review has revealed he uses his strength well. Reyes was easily the most impressive interior defensive linemen at the Senior Bowl in my opinion.

In college he often played NT and frequently faced multiple blockers, which perhaps prompted the concerns about his pass rush ability entering the week of practice. Reyes quickly put those concerns to rest. He flourished playing in space, consistently beating his man in pass rush drills. He then matched that with a solid performance in the game as the starting 3-tech for the North.

Reyes quickly attacks the B-gap off the snap and then continues driving up field. What really sets him apart is how he holds the POA as he diagnosis the play. Many 3-techs will penetrate themselves right out of the play but not Reyes. He penetrates and then sheds or bulls or gets his hands up to knock the pass down. Reyes might not rack up the sacks but if the Hawks stick with their current read-react scheme then Reyes will be high on the list. Here he is against Syracuse this year, film that wasn't in the 5-tech post.

Brandon Thompson (6-2 311) Senior from Clemson

I didn't include Thompson on my original 3-tech list because he has short arms and can struggle shedding blocks. I now realize that might be a bit narrow minded. I value the ability to shed blocks highly because with an undersized LEO DE playing next to the 3-tech, this is an important trait for defending the run on the weak-side. However, Thompson does anchor well and is very disruptive in the backfield with his impressive burst off the line and nimble feet.

If pass rush ability and a strong anchor are enough then Thompson will be in consideration for our second round pick. Here is a scouting report. Below you can watch him against Florida State this year and here he is against Virginia Tech.


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Akiem Hicks (6-5 324) RS Senior from Regina

Hicks is huge and powerful with arms like anacondas and feet like a cat's. How did I miss this guy? Oh right. He played for the Regina Rams in Canada. Well, he's certainly on my radar now. Hicks was the most active interior pass rusher at the East West Shrine Game. His technique is raw and he plays too high but his motor runs hot and his athleticism is readily apparent.

Below you can see some 2011 highlights and here is an interview with some film, including a short clip of him demolishing Chandler Harnish in the Shrine game.


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Jaye Howard (6-3 295) RS Senior from Florida - Quietly put together a nice Senior Bowl week of practice and had some nice plays in the game. The guy is just starting to realize his potential.

DaJohn Harris (6-3 308) RS Senior from Southern California - Isn't quite as big as I suspected but seems to use his size better than I had scouted. He does in fact play with good leverage. Inconsistent effort remains the primary concern.

5-techniques

Quinton Coples (6-6 281) Senior from North Carolina - You don't need a scouting report from me on Coples. You already know the deal. Who will take the leap of faith? I don't think it will be the Seahawks but I can't be sure. He was easily the best player on the field in the Senior Bowl. John Schneider and I are wondering where that player was for most of the 2011 season.

Kheeston Randall (6-5 297) Senior from Texas - Not a lot of buzz about Randall and I didn't notice him much in the game. He seems to be exactly what I scouted, an immovable object.

Derek Wolfe (6-5 286) Senior from Cincinnati - Strong. Active. Not athletic.

MLBs

Audie Cole (6-4 248) RS Senior from North Carolina State - Cole showed well in the Senior Bowl and definitely flashes potential as a pass rusher. Here he is against Louisville this year, which wasn't available when I made the MLB post.

Emmanuel Acho (6-1 235) Senior from Texas - Acho was moved to OLB for the week but the switch didn't go too well. He was stiff as a pass rusher and struggled to match-up in man coverage. He'll be best in the middle in my opinion. Should still be a mid-late round option for us.

OLBs

Sean Spence (5-11 228) Senior from Miami

Sean Spence is undersized yet very athletic and is a legitimate playmaker who can really pack a punch. He has great instincts and really attacks the LOS. Spence seems to be the linebacker Travis Lewis was supposed to be entering the season. He would start at WILL from day one.

Spence has been steadily rising up draft boards and Rob Staton projected him to the Seahawks with 12th pick in his most recent mock draft. I don't see that happening but he could be an option for us in the second. He had a quiet Senior Bowl but Mike Mayock took note of him, saying he "made money" during the week of practice.

Here is a scouting report. Below you can watch him against Clemson and here he is against Ohio State. Both games are from 2010.


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Courtney Upshaw (6-1 273) Senior from Alabama - I had Upshaw as a LEO but it's looking like he's an OLB who can rotate in on the DL. Check out Rob Staton's fieldgulls article on Upshaw if you haven't already. He didn't make much noise in the Senior Bowl but reportedly had a good week of practice.

Zach Brown (6-1 236) Senior from North Carolina - Brown had an excellent Senior Bowl and seemed determined to show more physicality. That might have been a Senior Bowl aberration but he was still flying around making plays. There's no question he has top tier instincts and closing speed and he's also very comfortable in coverage. I'm probably in the minority with this opinion but I feel Brown would be a "safe" pick at the 11/12 spot.

Melvin Ingram (6-2 276) RS Senior from South Carolina - Ingram has received a lot of hype recently but didn't do much to justify it at the Senior Bowl. He apparently looked flabby at the weigh in and was a complete non-factor in the game. He flashed in the one-on-one drills but not consistently. I've also started to notice that while Ingram's very active, it's often at the expense of the POA. There's no doubt he's athletic and he can absolutely take over games at times. But the inconsistency makes me nervous about using a top-15 pick on him.

Bobby Wagner (6-0 241) Senior from Utah State - Bobby Wagner did very well for himself with an interception and a number of strong tackles at the Senior Bowl. He's extremely well rounded and could move inside if needed. He probably won't be a star at the next level but he's about as close to a guaranteed quality starter as you can get.

Lavonte David (6-1 225) Senior from Nebraska - I didn't notice David as much as I expected to. If John Schneider says the Senior Bowl can't hurt a player's stock, I guess I'll just have to take his word for it.

Keenan Robinson (6-3 240) RS Senior from Texas - I don't have much to add from my initial scouting report except that my suspicions about him having some pass rush ability might be confirmed. He reportedly showed nice burst and bend in pass rush drills during the week.

Josh Kaddu (6-3 235) Senior from Oregon - New name on this list. Kaddu has the three F's of linebacking; he's fluid, fast, and physical. He's raw though and could stand to add a bit more bulk. Kaddu will be a special teams contributor right away and has all the potential to develop into a full-time starter. Also, Pac-12 connection?

LEOs

Vinny Curry (6-3 265) RS Senior from Marshall - Curry impressed all week and continued that trend in the Senior Bowl. The guy is just an animal. OT's better pull their chin straps tight when trying to block him. The Hawks will be lucky if he's still available come their pick in the second round.

Cam Johnson (6-4 267) Senior from Virginia

New name on the LEO list. Cam Johnson was virtually unblockable in the one-on-one drills this week and as Mike Mayock put it, he "has a real knack for rushing the passer." Johnson is low, explosive, and has a way of sliding past blockers. He also has a relentless motor and heavy hands to keep OTs off his body. He should hold up against the run pretty well.

Johnson reminds me a lot of Brandon Graham of the Philadelphia Eagles, who also rose up the boards after looking unblockable in Senior Bowl drills. The Seahawks had Graham rated very highly before he was selected one pick before us and we took Earl Thomas. Neither fit the mold of a LEO in the way of a Chris Clemons speed rusher. But the ability to get after the QB made Graham, and now probably Johnson, an attractive option for us.

Below you can watch him against Miami and here he is against Georgia Tech, both from this year.


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Jake Bequette (6-5 264) RS Senior from Arkansas - Bequette was tested at OLB this week and looked uncomfortable dropping into coverage. He is best at pinning his ears back with his hand on the ground. This is good news for the Seahawks as 3-4 teams probably won't consider him. I maintain that he would be a great fit at LEO and maybe another mid-round steal for the Hawks.

Shea McClellin (6-3 248) RS Senior from Boise State - McClellin was also tested at OLB and actually looked pretty good. His stock is rising and I'd bet a 3-4 team will snag him earlier than expected.

Brandon Lindsey (6-2 255) RS Senior from Pittsburgh - Lindsey did not have a good week leading up to the East West Shrine Game. He played OLB there and reportedly looked of his element. Reports also said he looked stiff turning the corner as a pass rusher. Still, he's explosive and tough and seems like a solid fit for the LEO spot. We might be able to nab him late since he doesn't fit as anything more than a conditional pass rusher in most schemes.

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Akiem Hicks is really intriguing

and we all know John’s not averse to small school guys.

by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 29, 2012 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

Mayock

commented on how Hicks failed the hula hoop drill miserably. He said Hicks’ got no fluid lower body movement and his ankles were stiff as can be. The way he said it during the game, it felt like he had completely written off because of it.

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by hazbro24 on Jan 29, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He did make it sound rather conclusive.

I don’t see it being so conclusive though. Hicks maybe won’t be able to press the hole as often as one would like but he certainly shows the potential to beast his way past blockers. That actually fits perfectly with our current read-react scheme and he could kick outside to 5-tech if he doesn’t work out as a 3-tech.

by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 29, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

From what I saw yesterday,

I was sold on Coples. He’s just too good, too much of a game changer to pass up.

He’s the anti-Curry pick, a bit risky, blah blah blah. If anybody can motivate him, it’s Carroll. But I suspect that it’s money that motivates him, so he should kill it during his rookie contract.

The idea of a young Julius Peppers type edge rusher terrorizing QB’s into chucking the ball up for ET and Kam and occasionally destroying one of them is too tempting. That’s an elite D if he’s works out.

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by hazbro24 on Jan 29, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Coples will most likely be gone,

but it doesn’t matter if we sign Mario or not. Bad mofos like Coples aren’t scheme dependent.

Watching him in that game was like a junkyard dog set loose in a hen house.

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by hazbro24 on Jan 29, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Curious, how would you see the Hawks pairing the two of them?

It would seem odd having Clemons, Mario, and Coples all on one team, though I gotta admit, it’s not problem I’d mind having.

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by Matt Erickson on Jan 29, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Officially he would be Williams' back-up.

Although he would rotate through at three different positions. This limits the pressure placed on Coples while still giving him plenty of opportunities for success. There’s also Mario Williams’ injury history to consider. If we’re gonna spend the big money on him, we would do well to have a back-up plan. If Williams is staying healthy and Coples seems ready for the starting gig then we could deal Clemons mid-season since he’ll be a free agent after in 2013 anyway.

by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 29, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Clemons/Mario/Coples

Clemons’ weakness has been against the run. He could easily be the odd man out along with trade bait as he’s going to walk after this coming season.

by Bishop27c on Feb 13, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ben - you sir, are a delight.

Nice work man. Keep it up, really enjoying your analysis.

by Danny Kelly on Jan 29, 2012 11:55 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I would really like to know

how you feel about Ta’Amu? Would he be someone the Hawks could be interested in?

by tquinlivan on Jan 29, 2012 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

Not unless we're intending to move Mebane back to 3-tech,

which I don’t see happening. Mebane is steady as they come and Clinton McDonald is a solid back-up. Ta’Amu is a fine prospect and would definitely be on the NT/1-tech list if that were a position we might be looking for. It’s probably not though.

by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 29, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems like the LEO position is right in between a traditional 4-3 DE and a 3-4 OLB.

The person fitting the bill is gonna be 6’3"-6’5" and somewhere between 250-270 pounds. I think that is pretty advantageous for us because other folks (“prototypical” scouts) aren’t going to be targeting those guys as much.

Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"

by Bobby Cink on Jan 29, 2012 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

Great post, thanks

You and RobStanton are making me curse the fact that the draft is so far away. The suspense is killing me!

Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by Outside Contain on Jan 29, 2012 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

I can't make the leap of faith for Quinton Coples.

Tempting as hell, but I think and hope Pete and John will pass.

Coples’s excuse for his lackluster play was that he was put at a new position his senior year. But I imagine he was used in some novel ways in the Senior Bowl, as well.

I think that the huge discrepancy in his fall play and Senior Bowl play point to a non competitor who doesn’t really love the game.

by broadbill birdwatcher on Jan 29, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

I have been keeping up on all the scouting relative the d-line for the Seahawks (and special thanks for this one - it's great!) my question is this:

How would signing Mario Williams impact the Seahawks draft relative to d-linemen? Would that make the 3-tech the number 1 priority (if it isn’t already)?

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by Hawksince77 on Jan 29, 2012 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

I would say signing Williams would lessen the importance of finding a 3-tech in terms of pass rush.

If we signed Williams then we wouldn’t resign Bryant. That would mean we’d have more pass rush from the DE spot opposite Clemons and less need for interior pass rush. Obviously we would still prefer more interior pass rush but having Bryant at 5-tech makes finding a better pass rushing 3-tech a pretty high priority.

by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 29, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Excited

Really feel we need more threats to get to the QB, I’ve seen most of the top names play. Something about that kid from Illinois says he could be a good fit.

Coples is a huge risk, he looks like he does not love the game. Driven by the dollar first. If motivated he will be a beast.

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