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Seahawks Podcast: 2012 NFL Draft Talk with Derek Stephens & Davis Hsu

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Happy Monday everyone - to start you off this week, we've got a podcast for you featuring Derek Stephens and Davis Hsu, with talk about the upcoming NFL Draft, players and positional groups the Seahawks might have or should have interest in.

In case you are a newcomer here, Derek, in addition to writing here at Field Gulls, is an expert draft contributor at First Round Exchange‬, a contributor at NFL.com's NFL Blog Blitz, has scouted for Lindy's Sports Pro Football Draft Guide and provided player draft analysis at NFLDraftScout.com while working closely with Rob Rang. He also has his own draft site in development - ScoutTheDraft.com - that I'll be sure to point you towards whenever there are updates.

Derek has done a series here at Field Gulls called the Rookie Report that you should definitely check out. Davis has a wide focus of subjects here, but he mostly likes to write about the big picture stuff like salary cap management, roster building and sustainment, draft strategy - all that good stuff. The two of them together, talking draft, makes for a pretty interesting listen and is definitely informative.

Here is Davis' introduction to the series, to give you a better idea of what to expect:

It is always great to talk football with Derek Stephens. Whenever I bring up a prospect with him, eight out of ten times, depending on how deep we are into the season- he has watched this player and has an opinion on him. This is a more formalized representation of one of these conversations.

In these Seahawks targeted podcasts - we cover a lot of the pass rushers in the 2012 Draft: Quinton Coples, Nick Perry, Whitney Mercilus, Andre Branch, Jared Crick, Billy Winn, Chandler Jones, Vinny Curry, Cam Johnson, Shea McClellin and Jack Crawford. Obviously, if you are an NFL fan, there is good stuff for you because your team is likely interested in many of the same players. We also move toward several OLB (both pass rushing and more traditional LB) including: Courtney Upshaw, Melvin Ingram, Ronnell Lewis, Bruce Irvin, Josh Kaddu, Zach Brown, Lavonte David, Sean Spence and more.

One thing about Derek, he does not care what other draft experts think about a player. Just because ten other analysts like a guy in Round One - he might not touch a guy until Round Four. Additionally, he likes players that others criticize because of their measureables. You may or may not agree with where Derek rates a player, but he is consistent to his framework below:

We talk about this in the podcasts, but Derek looks at four things when evaluating a player (character and measurables are not on the list):

1) Consistency (two years of good football, game tape)
2) Fundamentals (feet, hands, upright or low, weight transfer, etc...)
3) Awareness
4) Decision Making

Lastly, the Combine and All-Star Games are low on Derek's list when compared to how a player has played in real games over the last two years. Height, weight and 40 times to him are not as important as football speed and football plays. Awareness, instincts and making football plays.

Hope you enjoy these podcasts! (Check out the link after the jump...)

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-Field Gulls Draft Podcast featuring Derek Stephens and Davis Hsu, Part One-

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Great stuff. Thanks guys.

I like the Chris Long comparison for Cam Johnson. I compared him to Brandon Graham yesterday.

I’m wondering what you think of Jake Bequette.

by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 30, 2012 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

Honestly, I haven’t had a close enough look at Baquette yet. This week will hit it.

by Derek Stephens on Jan 30, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Those look awfully close to Ruskell rules on drafting.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Jan 30, 2012 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

Actually...

3 Differences:

Didn’t say they have to be a Senior, or even that I prefer it.
Didn’t say I prefer undersized defensive players.
Didn’t say character was #1. In fact, it didn’t even make the list.
Didn’t say coach’s opinion doesn’t matter
Didn’t say build your defense through FA
Didn’t say to draft 1 O-lineman every ten years

other than that, there may be some similarities.

Did say smart, fundamentally sound, consistent performers translate well to the NFL. If Tim Ruskell is the only front office member to agree with that, then the league is in some serious trouble.

by Derek Stephens on Jan 30, 2012 6:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Make that

6 differences.

I bet Tim Ruskell can count better than me.

by Derek Stephens on Jan 30, 2012 6:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Also,

Didn’t say no quarterbacks before the sixth round.

by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 30, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Job guys!

Love podcasts and thought this was a great one, can’t wait to hear more.

Bright future = Seahawks

by Drockurworld on Jan 30, 2012 4:33 PM PST reply actions  

Great job guys

I loved, loved, loved this podcast. It went beyond the simple fluff on the top 15 or so draft picks you hear a out everywhere else. I appreciate that there is a segment for folks like me who thrives on listening to a half hour of hardcore draft talk.
Ed

by germpod on Jan 31, 2012 10:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

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