2012 NFL Draft: Potential LEO Targets for the Seahawks (Revisited)
I hear it all the time, my fellow Hawk fans say "we should draft a stud pass rushing DE."
That's when I say "Okay. Who?" If they have an answer at all, it usually involves a certain Quinton Coples. That doesn't satisfy me much, because I don't see Coples as a very good option for Seattle. He can beast his way past OTs when he's so inclined to but even when he's motivated, he's still inconsistent rushing the passer and thus not a great fit at LEO. My instincts tell me we'll look elsewhere for our "stud pass rushing DE."
We already have a "stud pass rushing DE" in Chris Clemons but that doesn't mean we can't use another. Our pass rush dropped off significantly from last season mostly because we didn't get the same level of production from Raheem Brock on passing downs. Having Dexter Davis back will help but even so, grabbing another guy who could sub in at the opposite DE spot on passing downs would be a major plus.
The other factor to consider is that Clemons will be 31 next season and we have been heavily reliant on his pass rush abilities. If he had been injured this season then we would have been in serious trouble. Dexter Davis looked promising with limited snaps in 2010 but is maybe too undersized at 244 lbs to ever start at LEO. There are a number of LEO built prospects in this class so this might be a good time to invest in that area.
Courtney Upshaw (6-2 265) Senior from Alabama
Courtney Upshaw has shot up the draft boards after an MVP performance in Alabama's rout of LSU in the BCS Championship. Upshaw is not a clean fit at LEO but now seems like a realistic option with the 11/12 pick. Upshaw is quick and strong. He jumps off the line, swims past blockers, and has enough speed to close. He's very stout against the run and surprisingly fluid in space.
I'm projecting him as a LEO because he will undoubtedly see time with his hand on the ground pinning his ears back. However, what really intrigues me is if he can prove capable enough in coverage to play WILL on early downs before moving to LEO on passing downs. Here is his scouting report and here is his 2010 TMBDraft analysis. Here he is against LSU and here he is against Auburn from earlier this year. Below you can see him in the National Championship.
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Nick Perry (6-3 250) RS Junior from USC
Perry has a good build for the LEO position and an explosive first step off the line. He also has active hands and a nice repertoire of pass rush moves. He's maybe not quite the athlete that Clemons is but he's close. The USC connection is obvious but deserves to be noted. Here are Perry's 2009 highlights and 2010 highlights. Here he is against Utah and here he is against Stanford's probable top 15 pick Jonathan Martin this year.
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Andre Branch (6-5 260) RS Senior from Clemson
Branch is a high-motor guy with long arms and quick hands who is relentless as a pass rusher. He has good flexibility and enough speed to turn the corner. His biggest issues are a limited pass rush repertoire and inconsistency off the snap, which is why I rank him behind Perry. Both issues could be remedied with some coaching.
You can find an excellent scouting report on Branch by NFLDraftScout.com here. You can see him destroy Virginia Tech on two consecutive plays here and then on two more consecutive plays here. Below you can see him against South Carolina and here he is against Auburn this year.
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Whitney Mercilus (6-4 262) RS Junior from Illinois
Mercilus burst onto the scene this year with 14.5 sacks but surprisingly looks neither explosive, nor fast, nor strong. What Mercilus does have is length, lots and lots of length. He's also smooth and has great hand use. Put these together and it makes a DE who is very difficult to block.
Mercilus is not a very clean fit for the LEO position due to his lack of explosiveness but we might consider him anyway because of his consistency rushing the passer. Here are some highlights and you can see him against Northwestern here and against Penn State here. Below you can watch him against Arizona State.
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Vinny Curry (6-5 263) RS Senior from Marshall
Curry is not explosive, he lacks flexibility, and he's slow out of his stance. He seemingly wouldn't offer much at LEO but he plays with such anger and strength that he consistently fights through blocks and generates pressure. Simply put, Curry plays like a beast. He won't be able to dominate OTs at the next level the way he did in college but should still be a very dangerous pass rusher.
Curry has good closing speed but his consistency generating pressure is why he's an attractive option at LEO and his attitude will fit nicely as another physical presence on defense. Here is a nice scouting report. Here are some highlights and you can see him against West Virginia in 2010 here and below in 2011.
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Bruce Irvin (6-3 245) Senior from West Virginia
Irvin is one of my favorite prospects in this draft class. He is a completely unique player. You'd think that he's too skinny to rush the passer but his remarkable length and hand placement keeps OTs off his body. This allows him to put his speed and explosiveness on display. As a conditional pass rusher he posted 14.5 sacks in 2010. This year they tried to use him as more often on first and second down but it backfired. He uses leverage well which makes him seem strong in bursts but he lacked the bulk to be start every down.
You can see the evidence of this failed experiment here in the first game of the season against Marshall. They started to move him back to the conditional pass rusher role toward the end of the season. You can see him getting his swagger back below against Louisville. He finished 2011 with 7.5 sacks. Here is a scouting report and his 2010 highlights. Even if he needs to rotate a lot, the LEO position might represent Irvin's only possibility to start in the NFL.
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Jake Bequette (6-5 265) Senior from Arkansas
I'm a big fan of Jake Bequette. His explosiveness, athleticism, and flexibility turning the corner make him a potentially perfect fit at LEO. Bequette will make plays if given space and a single blocker to rush against. He has a bit more size than Clemons so he might be a legitimate upgrade somewhere down the road. He needs to play with better leverage and develop a greater pass rush repertoire to really be effective.
Watch him here against Texas A&M last year. I also singled out one, two of his three sacks against South Carolina. Here is his first sack against Mississippi State and now watch him perfectly time the snap count on two consecutive snaps here, forcing a fumble on the second. Below you can watch him against Ole Miss this year.
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Brandon Lindsey (6-2 250) RS Senior from Pitt
Lindsey is a very good speed rusher. He's maybe not as tall as we'd like but if he can add some bulk then there's still a chance he could develop into a starter at LEO. If not then he'd still be valuable as a conditional pass rusher. Lindsey doesn't have enough strength to bull rush OTs but he has heavy hands and uses them well to separate and slide past an OTs base of power.
He's also explosive off the snap and has enough speed to turn the corner. One of my favorite abilities that Lindsey demonstrates is an aptitude for anticipating the snap count. Lindsey had 8.5 sacks in 2011. You can view his scouting report here and his 2010 TMBDraft analysis here.
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Shea McClellin (6-3 258) RS Senior from Boise State
McClellin has an excellent motor. He's not outstanding in any one respect but he's all around solid and has a nice build for the LEO spot. He doesn't impress me all that much rushing the edge but looks dangerous on inside moves and especially on stunts. He had 7.0 sacks this season. Here are his 2010 highlights. You can see a nice sack he had against Georgia in the first game of the year here and his sack against Arizona State in their bowl game here. Below you can watch him against New Mexico this year.
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Jacquies Smith (6-4 255) Senior from Missouri
Smith has prototypical build, athleticism, explosiveness, and motor to play the LEO position. Unfortunately he explodes out of his stance straight up. This really limits his ability to work past an OT. Smith needs to play with a lower base, develop more active hands, and use his athleticism more to rush the edge. He could be a project pick for us toward the end of the draft.
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Donte Paige-Moss (6-4 260) Junior from North Carolina
Donte Moss is the type of athlete who makes Nick Reed go home and curl up with a box of tissues watching The Hot Chick. Moss could have been a borderline first round pick if he had had a good 2011 season. Instead, he had a horrendous season and tore his ACL in their bowl game against Missouri.
He surprised a lot of people when he decided to declare for the draft. He's betting he can play his way onto a roster in 2013. I doubt he'll be drafted but maybe the Seahawks will give him a look because in theory he's a LEO prospect. Below you can watch his 2010 TMBDraft analysis.
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Big thanks as usual to DraftBreakdown for the excellent scouting videos they put together. If it wasn't for their hard, unheralded and humble work, we'd be forced to watch those godawful horrible highlight videos with terrible soundtracks all day. So, thanks to Aaron Aloysius, JMPasq, JPDraftJedi, TTN2810, MARI0clp and the whole DraftBreakdown crew.
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Good stuff
I watched Mercelius in the bowl game, great motor and passion. I think he will be a solid pro, I’m not as high on Perry. Just need help for Clemons next year.
by Seahawcla on Jan 4, 2012 7:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The thing is,
I am assuming they will try and get a pass rusher to not be a LEO, to where we can get pressure from 2 fronts rather than from Chris Clemons/insert new player here. It wouldn’t change hardly enough to impact the defense if we just got another player to play the Leo spot.
by Neonjerseysplease on Jan 4, 2012 10:37 PM PST reply actions
I hear you.
3-tech and WILL are the two positions we really need to improve if we want to take big strides rushing the passer on first and second downs. I will probably make a post similar to this one addressing the 3-tech position at some point in the next week or so with Devon Still and Michael Brockers as the headliners. Unfortunately I don’t see many pass rush options who would fit at WILL for us. Jarvis Jones would have been awesome but sadly he’s staying for another year of CF.
We can still improve our pass rush through a LEO pick though. Our pass rush dropped off a lot from last year mostly because we didn’t get the same level of production from Raheem Brock on passing downs. Having Dexter Davis back next year will help but even so, grabbing another guy who could sub in at the opposite DE spot on passing downs would be a major plus. Also, most of these guys can stand up which would allow us to show more 3-4 looks on first and second down.
The other factor to consider is that Clemons will be 31 next season and we have been heavily reliant on his pass rush abilities. If he had been injured this season (God forbid) then we would have been in serious trouble. This seems like a fairly deep class for LEO built pass rushers so it would probably be a good time invest in that area.
by Ben Harbaugh on Jan 4, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
Is devon still a reach at 12
I hear he is a great three tech, but for a dt to be drafted that high he has to be suh good
I see it the exact same way.
BTW A, great post!
I do indeed think that pass rush will be the focus in the draft baring a blockbuster trade for G the III.
I sorta thought that the LB Smith was drafted to be a passrusher but he has been invisible so far so maybe that didn’t work out.
Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
by Outside Contain on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 AM PST up reply actions
Oh wow.
Danny touched up (improved) my article quite a bit. I wasn’t able to find a lot of that film. It’s also my first appearance on the front page. Thank you Danny.
Great post
Even if we’re not looking for an immediate starter to fill the “Leo” with Clemons, getting a pass rusher to put opposite of him in passing situations would be awesome. And out of all of them, I would take Montgomery easy if we don’t look to do anything at QB first round. He’s clearly the most athletic and savage-like, so I could only imagine what Pete Carroll could do with him.
I do agree that we need another. Was Clemons always in the Leo spot on passing downs?
I can’t quite remember if it was him and Red at the ends on passing spots. Obviously Red is used for the run stopping, but I saw him be quite ineffective in passing situations. If we do pick up a pass rusher who can go opposite of Clemons on pass rush downs and fill in for him to give him a rest, I would be all for it.
by Neonjerseysplease on Jan 5, 2012 2:11 PM PST reply actions
It was typically Raheem Brock opposite Clemons on passing downs.
Last year Brock was great for us but this year his production dropped off considerably. He was only on a one year contract and I doubt that he’ll be back next season.
Montgomery
usually looks like he is burried or handled.. Not sure I would want to use a first round pic just based on potential cause I’m seeing nothing impressive from the video.. Does remind me of that awesome run Richardson had when he just shrugs him off… not something you want as your defining play in a game.. His two sacks in the Alabama game were coverage nothing special at all… I would go as far as to say not sure what people see in him.. he shows difficulty in disengaging from blocks and is slow off the line.
It's worth remembering that he's only a RS Sophomore
What I see in him is ridiculous athleticism and a lot of intensity. With more coaching and more opportunities to play in space he should thrive at the next level.
Acute - what about the other guy Barkevious Mingo?
I haven’t watched much on the LSU prospects because of all the blowouts and pretty much everybody on that defense is an NFL prospect it’s hard to focus on certain players. But looking at different 2013 rankings most got Montgomery, Mingo, and Brockers in the top 15 and they’re all red shirt sophomores now who could come out with a NC. Is Montgomery a way better prospect or just a better fit at LEO (they’re both almost the same size)?
Ok, I'm calling bullshit.
You can’t just make up a really cool sounding name and expect that peopl—- OH MY GOD HE IS REAL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZcfTFhOUU4
Bark! A! Vicious!
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I haven't heard any talk about thinking of declaring so I haven't seen that much of him.
Montgomery should probably go back to school but the weakness of DL talent toward the top of the draft might draw him out.
Wow what a great compilation. Really good work Acute.
I’ll be extremely interested to see your work on the 3-techs. Our interior was horrendous without Alan Branch in the Washington game. It showed our depth there was next to nothing, or nothing really serviceable.
As good as our defense was this year (it was 9th I believe) I think we can expect it to get a heck of a lot better when we spend our first two picks on the the DL and LB positions like I expect us to.
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
Interesting list but where's Melvin Ingram?
Watch the South Carolina tapes and they use him just like we used Raheem Brock his first year. He lines up all over the place from traditional DE, to wide 9, hand off the ground, a lot of 3-tech and even pass rushing from the 1-tech. He’s listed at 6-2 276 but his arms seem very long and I bet he runs faster then everybody but Irvin, Montgomery and maybe Perry. I think he can be groomed for LEO but provides immediate use as a pass rusher from anywhere PC can think to put him.
With all this hyping I’m doing on Ingram it’s obvious he’s my favorite prospect in this draft and I think he compares well to my favorite prospect last year in Aldon Smith and even though he’s a little shorter and not quite as powerful he does look to have more speed.
Ohhhh. I like the sound of that.
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
I thought long and hard about Ingram
I definitely like him but decided we wouldn’t play him at LEO. We’d most likely use him as a SAM and rotational pass rusher on passing downs. I think he could rotate in at LEO but seems too slow off the line to be our starter there. I’m planning to do the 3-tech/5-tech list next but after that I might delve into the LBs at which point I’d definitely include Ingram.
Awesome Post
Thank you. I love Whitney for our 1st pick (I mention in every post haha), I do like your assessment of Curry as well… If we go another direction in the first round, I agree this is the guy in the 2nd round. I also share you assessment of Jenkins… I’m not a fan either.
I don't like Brandon Jenkins either
but he reportedly said he’s going back to school today.
Mingo DE Mercelius
I say we double up on pass-rush potential, if only for the calls of “candygram from Mongo” for any QB when they’re both on the line.
And surely Barkevicius Mingo is the best name in football anyway, ever.
At least since Mack Strong retired...
"Now I'm tired of this s---. I'm sick and f------ tired of an 8-10 record. I'm f------ tired of losing to Purdue. I'm not here to f--- around this week. Now you may be, but I'm not." -- Bobby Knight, circa 1992
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
draft picks???
Hey does anyone know what we have? I thought we had some extra picks but cant remember… thought we had extra 5th and 7th… can anyone confirm that or let me know where I can find it
I think we have a pick in every round, but we'll lose one for Polumbus (7th?) and gain one for Curry (7th)
We also still owe Buffalo a conditional pick for Marshawn, no idea what round that ends up being. Could be bad because of his good year this year.
thank you
didn’t we also get a 5th round pick for Kelly Jennings to Bengals? Hmmm, I did forget about the Lynch conditional… so thank you.
No.
We got DT Clint McDonald for Jennings.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Jake Bequette?
am I looking at the right guy? #91? Because this man does not play well in space, whiffs at the 2 yard line on the QB and one other time on the running back. At times plays too high and doesn’t really keep his balance or a low center of gravity (thus he falls on his face/forced to the ground face first) Doesn’t show the greatest ability to fight through a block or a blocker. Limited rush moves. Not really good against the run. I could be wrong. I am kind of new at this thing.
I would place Perry first, montgomery lacks some instinct. Yes he is a RS sophomore, I understand, But he gets stonewalled by a TE!!! Lacks the ability to consistently shed the block. However he plays like a mad man.
As far as fits for the Hawks at Leo,I dont really know who is a good/great fit. But I like Perry, Irvin, and McClellin (in that order).
but then again I am new to this and maybe you guys could teach me a little something.
Bequette's motor seems to run hot/cold and I agree that his pass rush moves are limited.
He definitely flashes a real explosiveness though and that could appeal to us for the LEO spot. If he develops then as Rob alluded to, people will wonder why he wasn’t drafted higher. But as he also said, it’s also very possible he doesn’t develop and never makes an impact.
If Bequette doesn't work out at DE
We could always move him inside to tackle toast him with garlic and butter and eat him for snack.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Didn't we try that with Nick Reed?
He turned the tables and toasted US, using the ultimate spread-insult at the same time: cream cheese.
Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 7, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Andre Branch is an interesting prospect
To my admittedly untrained eye, he seems to playing the run as well as defending against a running quarterback in the game against South Carolina. I expect that his pass rush would be better in situations where he’s coached to “pin is ears back”, as they say, and go for the quarterback in the pocket.
He plays heads up, quite literally— I think he’s got an excellent sense of what’s happening with the blockers. On the quarterback draw circa 3:15, he plugs the inside almost immediately and forces the SC QB back to the outside. One could say that he fails to control his gap, but I’m still impressed with the opportunistic read (that could easily pay off in other situations). In any case, the touchdown is fault of bad play from the secondary.
In fact, it seems that Branch is frequently playing a containment strategy to cover more than half the line of scrimmage himself, which may be a good thing if surrounded by sub-par talent and playing against a run-heavy opponent. I suspect he’d look better if surrounded by other quality players.
I doubt he’s good enough for the 11th/12th pick, but if his athleticism (strength and speed) measure well (I can’t really tell from the clip, because it’s too relative to the opposing players) he’d be worth Round 2 Pick 34 or better.
Nick Perry gets my vote
Great article! I am very high on Nick Perry, he is very instinctive, gets involved with many plays that Sam Montgomery tends to take wrong direction to. If Seattle wants to target him, I think they can trade down to get him.

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