A Fireside Chat With Benne and Whiskey

This is a new experiment for us. You guys all know whiskey_chainsaw as the asshole who only posts about fantasy football, and you only know me as the asshole who bans other people for being assholes. Well today, we combined forces on Facebook, and decided to copy our entire chat spiels and post them on this blog.

I hope you enjoy them, partly because they're entertaining insights into the FG writers with less inhibitions, partly because whiskey_chainsaw and I can launch into epic rants at the slightest provocation, but mostly because you see our real names and pictures in the transcript.

If people like it, Tyler and I will make this a regular thing.


    • So is the Steelers getting Tebowed the greatest moment of the NFL season?

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • oh man...

    • i really did jump up and down screaming/cheering like i haven't since beast mode... so YES.

    • undoubtedly, yes

    • you know me, i'm the biggest bronco hater in the PNW, and even i loved it!

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • I always hated the Broncos, but now I want Tebow to win the Super Bowl and complete the greatest trolling in sports history.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • hahahhaahahahha!

    • so very true

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • Like, dear God is he a terrible QB, but they keep pulling these epic wins out of their asses so much I may have to start going back to church.

    • It's so disarming.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • i have von miller AND elvis dumerville on my fantasy team. jesus i wish we had a pass rushing combo like that. they're the best tandem in the league when healthy

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • I LOVE Von Doom and Dume.

    • And yes, we need a serious pass rush from someone not named Clemons.

    • It's one of my biggest offseason check points, behind "find a legitimate QB to challenge TJax"

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • i think i'm in the flynn group.

    • pisses me off, because i really want a "cannon armed" type, but i think he'll do "enough" and we can draft around him

    • i do want to draft the big arizona st guy in the 3rd if he lasts that long though

    • and a OLB pass rusher in the first...

    • and as long as we're in wish list mode, chris polk to back up beast mode teh next 5 years, in the 2nd

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • Thomas on Field Gulls wrote the most balanced, clear-headed and mature articles on Flynn we'll see all summer.

    • And I still want him.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • i know. i can barely read his stuff though... it's like being back in college, just so dry.

    • i think he's a "he is what he is" type, but a little better than some of the others like that, lol

    • but yeah, i read those ON MY PHONE they were so good

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • Hurm, can't say I agree with you on his writing style.

    • I like him because he comes from an academic perspective in his analysis.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • no, that's what i mean... dry as in analytical

    • valueable but not as fun to read

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • So much football blogging is divided into "YEAH LOVE THIS GUY" and "BOO FUCK THIS GUY", that Thomas and Brandon from "17 Power" are a breath of fresh air in providing nuance and clarity in the Seahawks blogosphere.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • absolutely

    • there isn't enough "balance" on, for example, tavaris. even those of us who are "okay" with him aren't enamored

    • the haters don't realize that...

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • Oh, TJax.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • they just want the hate, without a rational assessment of how to fix it

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • Here's my question about him: WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE FEIGNING SURPRISE/OUTRAGE AT HIS PERFORMANCE?

    • YES I'M SAYING THIS IN ALL CAPS

    • HE'S EXACTLY THE SAME INCONSISTENT QB HE WAS IN MIN. HE'S PLAYING EXACTLY TO EXPECTATIONS.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • i think he's a SMIDGE better, actually. not much, but A SMIDGE BETTER DAMMIT!!! hahah

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • HE WAS ONLY BROUGHT IN BECAUSE THE LOCKOUT FUCKED EVERY TEAM AND HE KINDA KNEW BEVELL'S OFFENSE SO HEY THERE'S OUR STOPGAP FOR 11/12.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • agreed, exactly

    • real question-- do you think portis is worth a roster spot/potential hope after THIS year?

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • He strikes me as practice squad fodder and I think people only clamored for him because he "wasn't TJax or Charlie."

    • the backup QB is still the most popular athlete in town even if he's a 3rd stringer who was inactive all season.

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • very true

    • but i think some people will always clamor for the 3rd stringer to move up even if he first two play well

    • same reason people bet on underdogs and risky stocks instead of cd's and sure things

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • Eh...IO'

  • about an hour ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • because if it DOES turn out, boy is that sweet!

  • about an hour ago
    Jon Benne
    • Eh...I'd call that the Tom Brady Effect in action.

  • 59 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • should honestly be "the Romo effect" but people hate him needlessly while forgetting he, and not brady, is the true poster boy for UDFA QB based on athletic ability who has made something of himself"

  • 59 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • Everybody points to Brady as the Unhidden Gem Defying Everyone, ignoring the fact that his draft position was more of an indictment of the scouting process.

    • He played at Michigan, it's not like he wallowed in obscurity. I just think that everybody whiffed on his potential.

  • 57 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • what's more, coming out of school TODAY he'd be much higher than the guys that are goign in the late 1st, early 2nd, etc.

    • Keapernick?" NO WAY he goes before Brady

    • (or however you spell his name)

  • 56 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • Right. A fucking TCU QB went in the 2nd round. The draft game has changed so much it's asinine to compare with drafts from a decade ago.

  • 56 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • exactly

    • Brady going in the 6th then is as relevant as Mirer and MacGuire are to Seattle using a 1st rounder on a QB

  • 55 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • Which still doesn't explain why Seattle fans are so hesitant to draft another franchise QB. Show me on the doll where Rick Mirer touched you, Twelves.

    • Oh, we just typed over each other's thoughts.

  • 54 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • Wow. Yes indeed. AWESOME. HAHA!

    • I have an idea for us-- we should do (and maybe add others in) a series of "conversations" that are pre-edited as a post, so like thread commentary but better thought out and more dialogue-ish.

    • maybe point/counterpoint it. something like that.


  • 42 minutes ago

    Tyler Jorgensen
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • There's a huge "NOW NOW NOW" mentality to "fixing things" that just doesn't work in real life. You made a great point about Tavaris being brought in simply because of the lack of camps and knowing the offense. That's just smart. It's making the most of a bad hand. But just because you get to reshuffle the deck next season doesn't mean you're gonna have great hole cards.

  • 41 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • Meaning, QB isn't "easy to fix" and there isn't ONE ANSWER. the answer is to keep looking, and make the best of what you have... be it (god forbid but I'll tolerate it) another year of tavaris... or flynn... or... whomever.

  • 39 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • "NOW NOW NOW" is, unfortunately, a big part of sports fandom. Welcome to the Internet and its massive entitlement complex.

  • 39 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • play the cards your dealt.

  • 39 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
  • 39 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • Yeah, because we DIDN'T have that pre internet?! Hah! Sports Radio might be the better reference point for the "entitlement complex"

  • 38 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • From what I've heard, sports radio calls are dominated by trolls more than genuine idiots. Take that for what you will.

  • 38 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • the two together are a giant cauldron of "RESULTS IMMEDIATE" ... filled with a dash of hope, a splash of past success, and a gallon of unreasonable expectation

    • and any good cook knows you can't hurry perfection... but we seem to think that you can hurry the perfect answer to the most difficult position in professional team sports.

  • 36 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • But! You're missing the important factor that turns "instant gratification" up to 11 on the Internet: they can send their message instantly.

  • 35 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • so true, they don't have to wait for the radio host, don't have to get through the busy signals, and don't have to take 5 minutes of down time to think about what they're going to say before they put their words in public

    • hahah

    • so very true, benne!

  • 35 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • This turned sports fandom into a bizarre Lovecraftian horror of entitlement.

  • 35 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • I need a lovecraft to entitle!

  • 33 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • You know why the Philly media was actually talking about firing Andy Reid as if it was a good thing? Because the toxic, self-loathing Philly fanbase whipped out the power of the Internet to push this stupid meme and make it something that people actually had to talk about.

  • 31 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • well, they saved the season late... i say two less wins and i agree. not because it is deserved absolutely, but because he did, after all, take an OL coach and make him D Coordinator, and that guy then shifted D to a zone based coverage after paying the finest man-to-man cover guy a boatload of cash.

  • 31 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • so, Andy survives barely, but you HAVE to question the coaching staff.

    • not unlike Sark/Holt actually...

  • 31 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • I just miss Jim Johnson's fun blitz schemes

  • 29 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • hahah

  • 28 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • So glad Holt is gone.
    • I had all the patience in the world for him, given the shit talent from Ty, but one of the worst defenses in Husky history, 3 years into his reign, was absolutely unacceptable.

  • 26 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • LOVE the hire. Oregon guys. I'm gonna buy into the "if you can't beat them, join them" aspect. speaking of which in a vague NFL way... does getting Joshy Boy back help NE vs. Denver knowing the personnel from an insider's perspective?!?

  • 25 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • Has he proven anything, beyond being a Bellichik lapdog?

    • It's hilarious how much the Bellichik Coaching Tree imploded. He loses Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel in the mid-00's, the media proclaims he's nothing without his assistants. His assistants do nothing with their new teams while the Pats turn into a Madden superpower.

  • 22 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • uhm, that wasn't my point... hahhah! I heard someone say that Belichick planted a sleeper cell in the NFL by having Joshy implode first Denver and then StL's offenses. HAHAH!

  • 19 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • So after destroying Denver (and them only succeeding because Tebow has NO RELIGION ALLOWED) and coaching Sam Bradford to a stunning regression that makes the team re-evaluate their investment in him, he gets to go back to the team that made him a star.

    • I love NFL nepotism.


  • 14 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • Thank you for this chat tonight, Tyler. One more question before we go: are Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor the best safety duo in the league right now, or do they need another year of polishing before we can safely say that?
  • 11 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • I'm debating

    • hold on...

  • 9 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • The popular argument outside Seattle would not include them. Here, we are on to something special and we know they are. One key attribute to great safety play is playing well together. These two compliment each other well, and Kam being much better in coverage than anticipated has only added to that.

    • That being said, I think you still have to give a nod to Pittsburgh with Polamalu and Ryan Clark. Not because I'm in love with Troy P like many.

    • God forbid, he drives me nuts. But, Troy has free reign to do as he pleases, and that's part of the reason they got Tebowed. I think the final play happened because Ryan Clark wasn't playing to provide the Yang to TroyP's Yin.

    • We have TWO guys who have the ability to flex and feel and react off of both the O and each other, and regardless of it they are currently the best in the league, they will be shortly.

  • 6 minutes ago
    Jon Benne
    • I would like to note that ET's coverage skills have massively improved this year, which is why his INT numbers went down. Having him as the All-Purpose Safety, with Kam as the designated enforcer, make the Seahawks' secondary one of the more feared units in 2012.

    • Thanks for the chat, whiskey.

    • We should do this again soon.

  • 5 minutes ago
    Tyler Jorgensen
    • Agreed completely. And it was a pleasure. Let's do it soon.

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