Seahawks Roster Analysis: Cornerbacks
The Seahawks, rather surprisingly, showed some solid depth at the cornerback position this season with the emergence of Brandon Browner and Richard Sherman after Marcus Trufant and Walter Thurmond both went down. Browner and Sherman likely locked up the 'starter' designations going into next season by playing solidly this year and I would guess both go into camp with 'their job to lose'.
In 2011, Browner played every game, nearly every snap - after coming south from Canada and the CFL, and Sherman came in in relief of both Trufant and Thurmond and probably flashed the most potential of any corner on the team.
To play corner in this defense requires a certain mindset. First and foremost, you have to be physical, almost to the point where you're just trolling the opposing receiver. Browner displayed physicality in spades, regularly - I mean, really, pretty much every single game - getting in little tiffs with the opposing receivers, jawing, the occasional suplex body slam. I've been a fan of Browner since the day I found out he existed. For whatever reason, his size and speed intrigued me and I thought he might make a great corner/safety tweener that could come in on nickel situations and contribute. I did not, however, see him as the team's starting right cornerback and certainly didn't think he'd go to the Pro Bowl.
Now, there were some arguments on whether he should have even been included on that team or not and those are valid - I'm not here to dispute that at the moment but I do think that Browner excelled, considering the circumstances, at what he was asked to do, particularly as the season went on. I don't take Pro Football Focus' studies as gospel by any means, but a couple of their articles this offseason have shed some light on Browner as a player.
First off - Browner got off to a bad start. That's putting it mildy. He got off to a wretched start. In week 2, Browner had what PFF called one of the ten worst games by a cornerback in the past four seasons. He 'gave up' 10 catches for 194 yards and a touchdown, and - in a telling statistic of the game - "surrendered a catch every single time he was targeted." He couldn't keep up with Pittsburgh's speedy receivers and clearly looked rattled as the Steelers continued to pick on him throughout the duration of the game. And when I say pick on him, I mean, they essentially abandoned a balanced offense and went into the huddle and said "ok, we're just going to pass to whoever that Browner guy is guarding." Unfortunately, it worked in that game.
At that point in the season I remember people saying to me that he should be cut immediately. I wasn't particularly stoked on Browner at that time, but remained hopeful he could excel in what he really was brought in to do - match up with the big, physical receivers of the NFC West in particular, and re-route and manhandle at the line. Disrupt timing throws. Play strong on the edge against the run. Contain.
Throughout the season, he did this respectfully well. After that Pittsburgh game, he settled down and settled in, and became dependable at worst and even pretty great in some situations. The big plays over the top were cut down drastically - yes, he did surrender an over-the-top touchdown late versus the Redskins that hurt, a lot - but big plays happen and even some of the better corners get burnt from time to time. It's a really, really hard position to play.
Regardless, Browner came into his own. He began to jam at the line more effectively, he began to anticipate a little bit better. He's not going to win footraces with some of the elite receivers but again, he held his own, limited big plays, and tackled well. Which brings me to my second PFF post, this time on "Tackling Cornerbacks." According to their charting, Browner logged 1021 snaps and had 55 tackle attempts in coverage and against the run. According to their numbers, he only missed three tackles the entire year and that trio were in pass coverage. Importantly, particularly in this defense, according to that charting, Brandon Browner didn't miss a tackle in run support the entire year. That's pretty huge, actually.
On the other side, Richard Sherman came out of the gate at full-speed, taunting and trash talking from the get-go. Sometimes you loved it, sometimes you didn't. I love a good trash talker - I mean, my favorite athlete all time is probably Gary Payton - but there's a fine line between being awesome and being annoying. Taunting whilst standing over a player after making a great play in the redzone, leading to a flag and new set of downs for the opposing team is annoying. Getting in the head of opposing receivers and taking them out of their game is awesome. Sherman toed the line separating the two this year but you certainly can call me a fan. He appears to have, still, a lot of room for improvement and refinement after only a few years at the position, so his natural ability to turn his hips while running and head while the ball is in the air make him a very exciting prospect.
Sherman was the only member of the Seahawks secondary to not make the Pro Bowl this season but arguably has the greatest potential of the four, after Earl Thomas. Like Browner, he shows a lot of physicality in run support and tackling, frequently upending running backs or pass catchers. He should be a mainstay for years to come.
Past Browner and Sherman another high-potential player for the Seahawks is Walter Thurmond. Walt not only sports a sick 90's era fade, he backs it up with solid coverage and run support and lightning fast reaction times. I see Thurmond as an ideal small nickel coverage cornerback that can also move to the outside against certain teams that feature smaller receiver units. I don't know if Carroll would really do this much - he stuck with Browner in Pittsburgh even though he was getting smoked, but then again Carroll has shown the willingness to adapt his players to certain situations.
Thurmond is the antidote to the Mike Wallaces, Kyle Williamses, and DeSean Jacksons of the NFL and should have a solid place on this roster moving forward, if he can stay healthy. He was an injury risk to start, as they drafted him after he had suffered a pretty bad ACL injury at Oregon, and he's had his issues since. Hopefully in more limited snaps he can stay healthy through a season and contribute more frequently in the defense. It will be interesting to see what the Seahawks do with their pass defense next season after relying overwhelmingly on their base package in 2011.
Others:
Marcus Truant, Kennard Cox, Roy Lewis, Byron Maxwell, Phillip Adams, Ron Parker
The big question mark is obviously Marcus Trufant and is broken out into three prongs - a) his role, b) his contract, and a big c) his back. With the emergence of Browner, Sherman and hopefully Thurmond, Trufant becomes more expendable. The Hawks are looking to get younger and a veteran with a huge contract and bad back as a backup is not super... necessary? Further, the Hawks haven't shown a reticence to drop big-name players here in Seattle and rarely rely on past accomplishments for settling their roster. It remains a big question as to whether Trufe will be back.
Kennard Cox is purely a special teams ace. He does his job well. He was cut last season after camp, I believe, and then brought back after the San Francisco special teams debacle. If one of the younger guys - Byron Maxwell or Ron Parker, can prove to be reliable in special teams, I would guess they'd trump Cox, but that is a big 'if.'
Roy Lewis, in my mind, is essentially Walter Thurmond's backup. If WT3 can't go or gets hurt again, Lewis becomes a go-to guy. That said, with the youth, athleticism, and speed at the CB position on this roster, I could see Lewis becoming a casualty.
Byron Maxwell might be a great nickel cornerback and special teams contributor for the Seahawks going forward. He also might not be. He probably won't be a starting cornerback for this team. There are still a lot of question marks with Maxwell because he hasn't really played much, and when he has played, mostly on special teams, he's just gotten a lot of penalties. He's got a lot of potential though, and he'd be on a short list for me of players to really watch in training camp. If he can cut down on mental mistakes, stay healthy, and bully receivers and tight ends at the line like he was brought in to do, he has the physical makeup and athleticism to really shine.
Philip Adams. I really don't know squat about this guy. He's a press cornerback with some physicality, as per the Seahawks' M.O. We'll see if he sticks with the team.
Ron Parker. I really like Parker - he stood out to me in training camp last year and is similar in speed/athleticism to Maxwell. Proof- he was fast enough to briefly make the RAIDERS 53-man roster last year. He's THAT FAST. He's a virtual unknown coming out of small-school Newberry, but has the attributes this team looks for. Another guy to watch in camp.
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I feel like everytime I saw Roy Lewis last year it was in connetion with a first down allowed.
by TS6 on Feb 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Surprisingly
I only remember him from a late season big hit
Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Feb 17, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I think Trufant will take a paycut and stick around
Beyond Sherman, Browner and WTIII the other guys don’t bring much to the table. After watching Lofa refuse to take a pay cut then end up sitting on the sofa all season I don’t think Tru will make that same mistake. He is clearly not as fast as he once was but I’d take him over Roy Lewis any day if one of the other guys goes down. I’m not sure how much of a leadership role he takes on the team but it can’t be a bad thing to have a vet in the secondary to help teach these guys how to play the position and how to conduct themselves professionally.
by Billy Showbiz on Feb 17, 2012 12:06 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Haha I see what you did there
Heresy grows from idleness.
Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Feb 17, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
If they draft one DB, I hope this guy is available come the 6-th/7-th round or so.
FS/SS Winston Guy Jr., 6-1, 210, 4.57/40, Kentucky, Still has some upside at the position, as he can tackle, displays solid range in space and above-average instincts in all areas of the game. Should be a heck of a special teams player early and looks like a guy who eventually can fight for playing time. -— Has good size and is a hard hitter who had over 100 tackles last fall; runs extremely well for a SS; was a state 100M champion in high school and reportedly has run as low as *4.35 for the 40*; -— Doesn’t play quite as fast and is a little stiff, but can outrun mistakes; played both CB and FS before settling in at SS, but isn’t that instinctive in coverage, although he did have three picks last season; Has been a good blitzer in the past; also a good special teamer who has been dangerous as a KO returner." 2011 Season Stats: 120 Tackles, 14.0 TFL, 1.5 Sack, 2 INT, 2 PBU, 2 QBH, Fumble Forced, Fumble Recovered. 2010 Season Stats: 106 Tackles, 4.0 TFL, 3 INT, 2 PBU LINK: http://realsportshype.blogspot.com/2011/04/2012-nfl-mock-draft.html
Jim Q.
by CamanoIslandJQ on Feb 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Stumping for lloka:
Height & Weight: 6’3 – 213 lbs.
Draft Prediction: Third Round
2012 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
George Iloka, FS, Boise State
George Iloka is a tall safety prospect who is really shooting up draft boards after a strong Senior Bowl. With his display of size and speed, he’ll definitely catch the attention of NFL teams looking for a safety who can cover bigger tight end targets.
Iloka has a great feel for the game, whether it is reading routes or feeling receivers in zone coverages. He sits in his drop and can keep his pad level low as he moves around the field. His speed is more than adequate, but he’s a long athlete so he doesn’t have a special initial burst. He can track the football well behind him and make plays on the ball. He can line up in the slot and hold his own in man. Once he gets moving, he can really click and make the bang-bang play.
As a tackler, he uses his length well to wrap up and close on the ball-carrier. He needs to do a better job of bringing the man down to the ground, but he certainly doesn’t shy away from contact. Iloka is only average moving laterally, but he can make up for his lack of quickness by utilizing his strong football IQ. Some teams are looking specifically for this type of safety, so he could go a bit earlier than where he is currently projected.
ONLY IN SEATTLE:
By swaggering could I never thrive,
For the rain, it raineth every day.
by Hawksince77 on Feb 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I realize he played FS...
…but he seems like a PC secondary type – back-up to Kam (who also played FS if memory serves) and potentially a big CB on the outside – as well as another terror in the bandit.
ONLY IN SEATTLE:
By swaggering could I never thrive,
For the rain, it raineth every day.
You're right - probably have to draft him in the second, if Seattle really wants him - probably won't be there in the third...
ONLY IN SEATTLE:
By swaggering could I never thrive,
For the rain, it raineth every day.
That's not what I meant.
Safety isn’t really an issue. There are other positions that the team should be look at in the first few rounds. Safety has to be low on the list.
I know, just messin with ya.
ONLY IN SEATTLE:
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For the rain, it raineth every day.
A small fear about Richad Sherman
When he was elevated to starring, nobody knew an awful lot about him. Now they do, and opposings OCs will have had time to analysing potentially exploitable weakness. I hope he proves to be a really top notch CB, but next season could prove harder work. For a comparable offensive situation – Cam Newton once the extraordinary and unexpected early season passing efforts were in public view
Yes, but see: Feiler Faster thesis (football corollary).
Teams had many weeks to scout and adjust, and it doesn’t take that long anymore anyway, I think.
Look at Jeremy Lin— there’s already a “book” on him.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Feb 17, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember Carroll talking-up Parker in one of his press conferences .
The kid appears to be pretty darn fast.
Did Browner miss the tackle on the long Roy Helu, Jr. run?
Didn’t he drop his head and whiff? That’s my possibly faulty recollection.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Oh, and great piece!
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
How awesome is this?
The biggest questionmark we have at CB this offseason is who the 4th guy is going to be. Last year it was: Can our #1 stay healthy? Can our #2 stop sucking? Why did we dump out #3 last year? Why did we pass on Jimmy Smith?
PC and JS answered all four of those questions and get an A for handling this position last offseason. If Maxwell realizes his potential I’d give it an A+.
by HI Hawk 808 on Feb 17, 2012 7:17 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Talk about turning your head...
great stuff
The MOST amazing thing about this gif that I just noticed
Count how many strides AJ Green takes between the snap and Sherman snagging the ball.
Now count Sherman’s strides.
…holy shit.
by jhmg16 on Feb 18, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sherman was the only member of the Seahawks secondary to not make the Pro Bowl this season but arguably has the greatest potential of the four, after Earl Thomas.
Honestly I’d say Sherman has the most potential, even more than Earl. Earl is faster, but Sherman’s size/speed combination, and his agility gives him the potential to be a complete cover corner. At 6’3" it’s an absurd athletic combination, and with his WR background it comes with good hands.
Earl projects to being somewhere between Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu at his best, which is HOF worthy, but I’d argue that Sherman’s potential could make him the greatest corner ever. Just talking pure potential.
Now, Earl is a far more sophisticated and developed player, with godly instincts and he uses his speed in amazing ways. So I think Earl is far more likely to realize his very best potential. Sherman is not.
Looks like I found one for the "Preposterous Statements" Tourney
“but I’d argue that Sherman’s potential could make him the greatest corner ever. Just talking pure potential.” — Cashless
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 20, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Not to knock you, Cashless... but, that IS pretty damn optimistic.
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 20, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions

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