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NFL Combine 2012: Mike Mayock's Pre-Combine Positional Rankings - Recievers

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"Touchdown makers."

This two-word phrase is now engrained in the Seahawks fanhood lexicon after Pete Carroll mentioned that getting more 'touchdown makers' was one of his top priorities in this year's Draft and offseason. Now - most believe, well, some believe that in this draft, it will be DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE, SOME MORE DEFENSE, then maybe a QB and RB somewhere. I personally would put money on the fact the Seahawks will take a defensive end or linebacker with their #1 pick, but barring some situation where everyone is gone by the time they pick, you might see an offensive player. That's what this post is for.

Let's lay out a scenario: Suppose that by the 11th/12th pick, LB Courtney Upshaw, DE Quinton Coples, DE Melvin Ingram, or DT Devon Still and Michael Brockers are all gone. Trent Richardson is off the board. If this is the case, I can see the Seahawks looking at WR, potentially. It may be a luxury pick, but assuming the Hawks can't trade back and don't want to take a guy like Ryan Tannehill or Brock Osweiler so damn early, there are some nigh-elite receivers out there to look at.

Here are Mike Mayock's top-5 at the position, as it stands pre-Combine.

Wide Receiver
1. Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
2. Kendall Wright, Baylor
3. Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
4. Rueben Randle, LSU
5. Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina

Rise: Wright
Fall: Floyd, Jeffery
New entry: Randle
Out: Wake Forest's Chris Givens

Blackmon is the consensus number one receiver but Kendall Wright is right on his heels. Either player would be a huge addition for the Seahawks and I honestly wouldn't be disappointed to see one of them in Seahawks' blue next season. They're different in style a bit - Wright is more of a vertical outside/seam threat and a little bit smaller, and Blackmon is the 'catch everything' type of playmaker that can do a lot of different things for your offense, particularly in the red-zone (touchdown maker).

Michael Floyd is a physical freak of nature and his size/speed combination is likely to intrigue a lot of teams. At 6'3, 223, he caught 100 passes this season and 9 touchdowns to cap a 271 catch, 37 touchdown career. Floyd is one guy to watch very closely at the Combine because if he runs in the 4.3s or 4.4s, his stock could soar, a la Jonathan Baldwin of Pitt from last season.

Rueben Randle has quietly risen up the charts and is now in the first-round discussion by some. He's got size - 6'4, 208, and caught 53 passes and 8 touchdowns for the Tigers this year, even with a rather deficient passing offense. Doug Farrar profiled him at Shutdown Corner and noted that Randle is a "tremendous after-catch receiver who seems stronger on the run than his body type would reveal. Perfectly willing to go over the middle and make the tough catch in traffic, and he's a load to take down on slants and posts. Always looking to turn upfield and make that extra gain."

Farrar adds, "Perhaps at his best on sideline routes -- he gets the ball quickly, turns aggressively, and starts juking for extra space right away. Also great with fade routes, where he can use the boundary to gain an advantage."\

Anyway - that sounds like the type of player any team would want, but in terms of the Seahawks, at first blush he seems like the type of guy you could put opposite Sidney Rice to make both sides dangerous, or could fill in if/when Rice gets hurt.

Alshon Jeffrey is slipping down boards - there were some rumors that he ballooned up to 245 pounds at one point and running the 40 in 4.88 seconds, then the other day I saw someone write that he was down to 215. The Combine will be huge for the South Carolina product - at a listed 6'4, 230 - if he runs slow or comes in out of shape, he could really hurt his stock. He's a red-zone beast though and has been compared to the USC version of Mike Williams coming out. Someone to keep an eye on, regardless, especially if he falls into round two.

Falling off Mayock's list is Wake Forest's Chris Givens. I don't know a ton about Givens so I won't fake it. NFLDraftScout.com says this about him:

As an NFL Draft prospect, Chris Givens offers a lot of production and agility. Givens relies on quickness and change of direction to achieve separation, and can make the spectacular catch. While most of his production came off short throws with plenty of YAC, Givens is a legit deep threat. Despite injuries in high school, Givens was healthy for the duration of his career at Wake. Givens could fit as a #2 WR or slot in most schemes, and likely is best suited for a West Coast offense.

Not making the list is Rutgers' Mohamed Sanu. I know that Rob Staton is high on Sanu and I've seen him in several analysts' first-round mock drafts, so he bears mentioning. An all-around receiver at 6'2, 215 - he's got great hands, is excellent after the catch, and is a playmaker over the middle. He had a ludicrous 115 receptions in 2011, setting a Rutgers school record. I like Sanu - he's got the potential to surprise a lot of people and so far is a bit under the radar.

Also not making Mayock's list is UNC's Dwight Jones. Jones has been profiled a lot by Rob Staton as well over at Seahawks Draft Blog and is the type of all-around, big, fast, playmaking receiver that I could see the Seahawks lusting after. He's a guy to keep on your radar as well.

Now, the good news is that this receiver class seems pretty deep so the Seahawks may not go receiver this high. Likely, they won't, actually. So, who else do you watch? Here are a few- Ryan Broyles, Nick Toon, Jermaine Kearse, Juron Criner, Stephen Hill, Brian Quick, Marvin McNutt Jr., Jeff Fuller, Gerell Robinson, B.J. Cunningham - the list goes on and that's really just a smattering, and considering the Hawks found a guy like Doug Baldwin in rookie free agency last year, it wouldn't surprise me to see them pillage this group some in the later rounds.

Star-divide

Big thanks to DraftBreakdown for the excellent scouting videos they put together, JMPasq, MARI0clp, Aaron Aloysius, and the whole DraftBreakdown crew.

1. Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State. 6'1, 215


2. Kendall Wright, Baylor. 5'10, 190


3. Michael Floyd, Notre Dame. 6'4, 223


4. Rueben Randle, LSU. 6'4, 203


5. Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina. 6'4, 230


Chris Givens, Wake Forest. 6'0, 195


Mohamed Sanu, Rutgers. 6'2, 215


Dwight Jones, North Carolina. 6'4, 225


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"Luxury" of WR

A pick of a WR in this draft on the surface would appear as a luxury pick. However, probing deeper into the state of the Seahawks wide receivers I have a different thought. As a #1 WR, we have Sidney Rice, an elite huge playmaker that is often injured. In fact, Rice just had both shoulder operated on. I do not recall exactly how detailed those surgeries were, but at least one of them was for a torn labrum. These injuries were capped by Rice going on IR for two concussions suffered during the season. He may have been very unlucky during his career so far, but Rice appears to be rather injury prone and may end up starting the year on the PUP list.

The number two WR for most of the year was Mike Williams. BMW suffered a nasty broken leg with some additional damage and also may start the year on the PUP list. BMW is off crutches, but will not be able to start running until 2/28 at the earliest. He also is trying to lose some weight to gain some speed, but being unable to run may hurt the likelihood of the weight loss.

So, our #1 and #2 WR were both on IR last year. That doesn’t sound too great. Danny posted an injury update recently in which he speculated that both Rice and BMW will be ready to go for training camp. But, there is the possibility that they may not make it back on the field by week 1. Also, last year’s 4th rd draft pick Durham was placed on IR for… a torn labrum. Finally, our 2nd TE, John Carlson (UFA) may be re-signed, but he spent the year on IR for… wait for it… a torn labrum. Jesus, WTF is wrong with all these guys’ shoulders?

Assuming that Carlson is re-signed and Rice, BMW and Carlson all fail to make in to the active roster by week 1, our starting WR could be down to Tate, Obomanu, Baldwin and Lockette. As shown last year, Baldwin is solid, Obamanu’s hands occasionally don’t work right, Tate can be a game breaker if he knows the routes and Lockette is a speedy unknown that I see as our deep threat TD maker in the long term as he better learns to offense.

So, based on the potential status of our WR, it may not be a luxury to take a WR, it may be a necessity. If the scenario Danny listed above comes to pass, I don’t think we take a first round WR, but we will draft or look to UDFA again just to get enough WR to open the year.

by Aztecs on Feb 22, 2012 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

I think you could make the same case for th O line then as well.

Having Obo, Tate and Lockette as the 5th thru 7th receivers is a luxury. One that most teams couldn’t boast. Also, if Carlson is resigned having Morrah as a 3rd TE is also a luxury.
Now I’m probably more bullish on Obo and Morrah than you are but still we have pretty great depth in the receiver core.
Yes, there have been a ridiculous amount of Labrum injuries but we’re talking receivers not pitchers, or QBs for that matter.
It’s worth noting that Rice went out with a 2nd concussion and chose to get the shoulders operated on in the off season.
Durham, I think they needed the roster spot. He’ll be back and healthy simply because he wasn’t that unhealthy (IMO as week as that is) to begin with. And the FO loves him.
I’d be really pissed if we used our #1 on a WR personally.

by vertigoman on Feb 22, 2012 12:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought the same about Durham at the time.

Though he later underwent surgery on his shoulder. So the injury was more serious than we initially thought.

by Defective on Feb 22, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Everybody forgets about Butler...

…and I don’t know why. Year before last he was a starter and improving every game. Broke Engram’s receiving records in college, and was the fastest guy on the team.

He made it back last year and caught a few balls. So lets remember who the Seahawks currently have on their roster:

1 – Rice (elite)
2 – BMW (huge guy on the outside – a WR Hasselbeck knew how to use, unlike TJax)
3 – Butler (fast, competent, still getting better)
4 – Tate (should be coming into his own, shifty, fast, playmaker)
5 – Obo (can do everything well)
6 – Durham (tall, fast, developing)
7 – Lockette (uber fast, developing)
8 – Baldwin (led the team in receptions as an UDFA)

The Seahawks generally carry 5 or 6 WRs on the final 53. Even if they don’t draft a WR, who do they cut? I know a lot of you are ready to throw BMW, Butler and Obo to the curb, but seriously? If Seattle drafts a WR high, that means cutting another good/promising player.

I know the premise of the article was what happens if all the top defensive talent, plus Richardson, plus they don’t like any QBs, are off the board. What about somebody like Kuechly? Or DeCastro? If all those other guys are gone, somebody good will be left, and I just can’t see using that kind of draft capital on a position that is more in need of a competent QB than another playmaker.

1st: Tannehill/Kueckly/DeCastro
2nd: David/Iloka/Martin
3rd: Russell Wilson/Irvin/Polk

by Hawksince77 on Feb 22, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

One last consideration: if Seattle signs Manning, rumor has it he wants to bring Reggie Wayne with him.

That makes it even more problematical drafting a WR.

(Can you imagine Manning throwing to Rice/Wayne/Baldwin?)

1st: Tannehill/Kueckly/DeCastro
2nd: David/Iloka/Martin
3rd: Russell Wilson/Irvin/Polk

by Hawksince77 on Feb 22, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't forgotten about Butler.

I’d love to trade him for a 5th in the draft.

...and if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump it's ass when it hopped.

by Side Effects on Feb 22, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too.

No chance.

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Feb 22, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok...

A 6th?

...and if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump it's ass when it hopped.

by Side Effects on Feb 23, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit, can't believe I've omitted Butler from my gereral train of thought.

Good point.
I’m a Butler fan. How can you hate a guy that held onto the ball after that leg breaking hit.
Oh, and TD!

by vertigoman on Feb 22, 2012 8:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The depth is there.

Aside from PCJS hitting a FA hr with Rice, they seem to be building the WR corps similar to how LoL interprets the Mariners BP building process. That is of coarse the “Pile”.
A collection of past regime role player survivors, former elite prospects turned burnouts, a coaches “project” and a boat load of NRIs. Or UDFA rather.
Leads me to believe they think WRs can be coached up and thus not a high draft need.

It seems to be working.

by vertigoman on Feb 22, 2012 8:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty much everyone agrees that you draft the best available player.

If Blackmon is still on the board when the hawks pick, there’s a strong chance he’s the best available player left. I wouldn’t be thrilled about using the pick on on a WR, but it would be hard to argue with.

by cdalto on Feb 22, 2012 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

Um, I don't think everyone agrees at all.

Just about everyone is going to weight positional value too.

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Feb 22, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course you account for positional value, that's the only way you can say that a WR is better than a DT, or a CB is better than a OL.

Just as an example, not that I take his opinion as fact, Kiper has Blackmon at #5 on his big board. Lots of mock drafts have him going in the top 5. If he was still available at 12, he would probably be the best player available regardless of position. This is assuming with Blackmon falling a lot of the guys we would value highly (Brockers, Upshaw, etc.) would be the players taken instead of Blackmon.

by cdalto on Feb 22, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily BPA at #11/12

My preference if Blackmon is available is to offer a deal to the Bears for their first rounder this year and next year. Turn both #1 picks next year into Barkley.

by Aztecs on Feb 22, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

A trade would be great, especially considering WR isn't a very big need.

I was just saying if he’s on the board he would probably be widely considered the most talented player available. So you either take him, or trade. Obviously every team has their own board, and the Seahawks might have someone on their board who is available that they like more. But when you start reaching for players based on need you end up with a less talented roster.

by cdalto on Feb 22, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I would actually rather have Richardson over Blackmon.

Especially if Lynch gets franchised and they are having trouble working out a long term deal.

by cdalto on Feb 22, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I would also rather have Richardson

But because the original scenario above had Blackmon as the BPA at 11/12 and I think Richardson is better than Blackmon (rated higher), I made the logical jump that Richardson was already taken before 11/12.

by Aztecs on Feb 22, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

tough decisions

Keep in mind folks that Pete Carroll stated at the end of the season that playmaking WR was in fact on his shopping list (along with pass rush DE and faster at LB). So WR is going to happen, but whether it is FA or draft we’ll have to wait and see.

by tarryhawk on Feb 22, 2012 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

He said "touchdown maker", phrased something like "we could always use..." or some such.

That could be TE, WR or RB.

So WR isn’t necessarily going to happen.

1st: Tannehill/Kueckly/DeCastro
2nd: David/Iloka/Martin
3rd: Russell Wilson/Irvin/Polk

by Hawksince77 on Feb 22, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

you are right

I just reread the article and he did say WR or back. My memory isn’t what it once was.

by tarryhawk on Feb 23, 2012 5:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Randel.

He plays tall and has great feet/moves for a tall dude, not to mention his nice routes. I think he plays like Brandon Marshal.

by gimpycb on Feb 22, 2012 9:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

A little of plays-like-Brandon-Marshall goes a long way.

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Feb 22, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

me too

I like Randel too… he’s got great hands and good speed, would be great opposite of Rice

by tarryhawk on Feb 23, 2012 5:17 AM PST up reply actions  

If Jeffries slips to the 2nd round I could see Carroll pulling the trigger

How he looks at the combine will be key, and of course how he runs.

Watching him every week, I think the upside is as high as any WR outside the top three. Jeffires suffered from a) inconsistent QB play, and b) he got too big. He bulked up as S. Carolina went more to the running game, and he just got too big up top. His 2010 film shows a big guy who was fluid and could move. In 2011 he looked stiff and big.

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by dcrockett17 on Feb 23, 2012 6:44 AM PST reply actions  

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