Team Needs - The National Perception of Seattle
With the Superbowl in the rearview mirror, the time has come for the eyes of the entire nation to look to the future. Danny's piece on the upcoming offseason events give us much to look forward to. Between signing Free Agents in March and the Draft in April, not to mention undrafted RA signings, the teams of the National Football League are going to improve in every way they can.
The national media will take any opportunity they can to capitalize on the interests of the public at large. Sadly, it isn't always the case that the national media has any freaking clue what they are talking about. It's almost as if it happens to Seattle more often then most, but that is what happens when you live in South Alaska... or when places like ESPN and Sports Illustrated don't hire folks like Danny Kelly or Thomas Beekers to their staff..
Such a piece was recently written by Jeff Diamond of Sports Illustrated. Here is what he had to say about Seattle's team needs:
Team Needs: QB, T, DE. The Seahawks want to find a potential elite QB to replace Tarvaris Jackson, but they're in a tough spot. Picking at 11 or 12 in the first round, it's too far to trade up for one of the top two. Perhaps they can get a shot at Ryan Tannehill, the third-ranked QB. In free agency, they would have interest in Matt Flynn, but Miami (with Joe Philbin) has a leg up unless the Dolphins can sign Peyton. The Seahawks also must improve their pass protection after giving up 50 sacks, so they will draft offensive linemen in the early rounds. A better possibility in the first round is a pass-rushing DE to play opposite Chris Clemons (such as Melvin Ingram of South Carolina or perhaps a trade up for Quinton Coples). The Seahawks also should seek a vet WR from the strong free agent class. And they may have to franchise Marshawn Lynch after his strong season (1,204 rushing yards, 12 TDs).
It is gonna make sense that the number one need for the Seahawks is going to be finding a replacement for Tavaris Jackson (or at the very least a QB in the draft to compete for the starting gig. That is fair. I get that. I don't see how he says that "Perhaps they can get a shot at Ryan Tannehill" when I personally t)hink that Tannehill isn't getting picked anywhere close to 11/12. It wouldn't surprise me to see him take a tumble down draft boards into the very late first round of possibly day two.
The thing that blows my mind about this piece is the prospect of drafting an offensive lineman in the early rounds. It makes me wonder if people take into consideration the fact that we drafted an offensive lineman in the first round of the last two drafts. Yeah James Carpenter hurt his ACL, but I don't think we are going to use our resources so poorly as to draft another offensive lineman at 11/12. The only way I can possibly see this happening is if Carpenter moves to the left side at guard to replace Gallery. Even then, 11/12 is not really the place to draft a RT. In the late twenties where we got Carpenter, sure. As early as we are drafting, naw.
I think, and I think we all think, that they have it right in that we have to improve our pass rush. Most are probably going to agree that we should pay Beast Mode. I'm not sure how much we should be paying him realistically, for how long, and what that contract might possibly look like. I'm not sure about seeking a vet WR. I'll leave that for you to discuss. Looking forward to what you have to say!
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Please tell me you are kidding!
Tarvaris Jackson is NOT our number one need!
Also thought you would have more links to what the rest of the nation thinks we need or really want.
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by DKrottenhawk on Feb 8, 2012 7:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I'm guessing
He meant to add “replacing” before Tarvaris as said in the article. But I agree that pass-rush needs to be addressed and if that comes as a d-end then I can see us picking up some lb depth later in the draft as well.
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by flyin' fijian on Feb 9, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Well that is certainly an embarrassing mixup. It has been fixed.
And at this point, I couldn’t find any other concise lists of “team needs” from reputable sources. Was just largely inspired by the Sports Illustrated article.
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
Most mock draft sites
Have are needs listed as qb, defensive lineman and for some reason offensive lineman. I agree we could use some depth but it is not of a glaring need. What we need is what we can’t draft, time to gel.
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by DKrottenhawk on Feb 9, 2012 10:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Depending on how the draft and FA shakes out,
we might end up with another OL pick. It couldn’t hurt, and both Moffit and Carp will be starting the season on iffy knees, Gallery will be iffy for the rest of his career, and Okung is no guarantee to be full strength either.
Unger is the closest thing to a sure thing we got. Who knew? So if we get a QB by trade or FA, and Upshaw, Coples, Blackmon, Ingram are gone at 11 and nobody wants to trade up but Jonathan Martin is sitting there? Don’t be shocked if it happens.
While peeps here on field gulls and Stanton are keyed in on defense I won’t be surprised at all to see the first 3 picks go offense. I’d take Coples if he feel to us, but there’s only a few obvious elite type D players in this draft and they should all be gone by the time we draft. So pick #11 should be BPA or trade. Martin would probably be BPA if he fell, and the Carpenter show could be moved to guard where his slow ass would be better off. My gut tells me we’ll be talking about Carpenter as a bust in the next off season. So yeah, OL might need some help.
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I fear that people will not give Carpenter a real chance.
He didn’t have a real offseason this year and came into camp really overweight. That is what happens when you are an undisciplined rookie without a structure in place. The same thing will happen this year because he is going to be rehabbing and now working on his cardio. I expect we won’t see what Carpenter can do until the 2013 season.
You are correct that he could be moved to guard, possibly even this season when he is ready to play again… but then do you kick Gallery out of his spot or Moffitt?
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Im not sure
Anyone getting paid millions of dollars should be given a float on not being in shape to perform.
He came into camp out of shape that is all on him. any performance issues because of it, are on him as well.
I dont think he is terrible, but he is gonna take another year before he is gonna be good.
Its odd because
Pete singled the Oline as pretty much the only group he felt he wouldnt need to draft for in this draft.
Even with Moffitt and Carpenter out, Giacomini is back and we have a few very taletned back ups.
Dont get me wrong having Carp at LG and drafting another RT would make depth sense(Someone to back up Okung when he gets hurt) J. King was a name floated often as a nice talent.
I don't think they will,
draft O line. But it could make sense if another starter/pro bowl caliber LT is sitting there and the guys you were looking at were gone.
Who knows? At least there should be viable options to trade back if a player like Martin is still on the board.
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Sports Illustrated is connected to sports only on a surface level.
ESPN, as bad as they are, do a much better job of knowing what’s going on for every team. SI, no way. That writer did maybe a couple days of research for that, at the most, rather than pay close attention to every team all year.
Few people here know every other team in depth either. ESPN would at least send Sando to do the ones that are NFC West related, and one person can do four teams a lot easier.
Sports Illustrated is more interested
in the winter underwater pingpong (SnorkleDivision) championships than real writing about Seattle sports.
And more about swimsuit models than anything else
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Why get Matt Flynn?
"Also, for what it’s worth, if we get Flynn, New England and Detroit are on the schedule!" - SSreporters
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Feb 13, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
11/12
DeCastro, OG:
How it could happen: ‘Hawks sign Mario or Avril in March AND Luck, RGIII, Richardson, Brockers, Coples, and even Tannehill are already off the board at 11/12 AND a deal to move down and add picks doesn’t happen.
Why it still wouldn’t be the best idea: Giacomini and King could pwn the RT spot by the time Carpenter is 100% and he could be moved to replace Gallery at LG.
I don’t like the DTs other than Brockers at 11/12 because this draft is deep at DT with as many as six projected to hit the first round. The depth makes it likely to find talent later. Brockers is unique because he has the length and athleticism to be a unique force if he realized the potential. But drafting potential is not without risk.
Still gathering info on the DE/ILB/OLBs as none of them just jumps off the board but that opinion may change by the draft. If you could combine Zach Brown’s speed with Kuechly’s production record and Mercilus’s physical traits, he’d probably go number 3 overall but I’m sure Scheider will find some characteristics that they like in particular and maybe there is a guy they would take at 11/12.
by Garon Galloway on Feb 19, 2012 10:47 PM PST reply actions

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