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Comparing the 2009 and 2013 Rosters: Smaller, slower, weaker ... older

Joe Nicholson-USA TODAY Sports

One of the biggest knocks on the 2009 Seahawks was an obvious lack of talent. Think about 2009 for a moment; what do you remember most?

The Patrick Willis hit on Hasselbeck in the second game? Those green jerseys in the Chicago game that repulsed us to our core but we strangely thought were kind of cool? The ray of hope when we spanked Jacksonville at home? How about those countless embarrassing letdowns going up against teams that were simply more talented: at Indianapolis, Arizona (twice), at Dallas, at Minnesota, at Houston, Tampa Bay at home, at Green Bay, and finally at home against Tennessee when Chris Johnson eclipsed the 2,000 yard mark running down the throats of a stunned and humiliated 12th man?

"I know this, there are teams out there that say if you walk into Seattle and punch 'em in the face, they won't react. I know that's what I always said. I know that's what Mike Singletary said on Saturday night before we played 'em two weeks ago." -- Jim Mora, 2009 Seahawks coach

"... If you're going to be a good offensive lineman I think you have to be a little bit of a, you've got to be a little, you've got to be -- can I say it -- you've got to be a little bit of a dirtbag." -- Jim Mora, 2009 Seahawks coach

"We're not going to fight our ass off, and have a field goal kicker go out there and miss two field goals and lose a game, ... It's not going to happen."-- Jim Mora, 2009 Seahawks coach

Let's take a closer look at the 2009 roster and compare it to what PC/JS have transformed this club into over the last three years.

Quarterbacks

2009

Age

GS

Cmp

Att

Cmp%

Yds

TD

Int

Rate

QBR

Sk

GWD

Hasselbeck

34

14

293

488

60

3029

17

17

75.1

26.4

32

1

Wallace

29

2

78

120

65

700

3

2

81.9

34.3

9

2012

Age

GS

Cmp

Att

Cmp%

Yds

TD

Int

Rate

QBR

Sk

GWD

Wilson

24

16

252

393

64.1

3118

26

10

100

69.6

33

5

Flynn

27

0

5

9

55.6

68

0

0

79.9

23.4

0

Matt Hasselbeck is quite possibly the best quarterback the Seahawks have ever had, however that looks to be changing before our very eyes. Remember when Seneca Wallace and his phantom sacks were the future? It would be interesting to compare combine drill numbers for the 2012 Wilson and the 2009 Hasselbeck.... Oh my goodness the future looks bright.

Rushing

2009

Rushing

Rushing

Rushing

Rushing

Rushing

Age

G

GS

Att

Yds

TD

Y/A

A/G

J. Jones

28

14

14

177

663

2

3.7

12.6

Forsett

24

16

2

114

619

4

5.4

7.1

E. James

31

7

0

46

125

0

2.7

6.6

Hasselbeck

34

14

14

26

119

0

4.6

1.9

2012

Rushing

Rushing

Rushing

Rushing

Rushing

Age

G

GS

Att

Yds

TD

Y/A

A/G

Lynch

26

16

14

315

1590

11

5

19.7

R. Wilson

24

16

16

94

489

4

5.2

5.9

Turbin

23

16

0

80

354

0

4.4

5

Washington

30

16

0

23

83

1

3.6

1.4









The 2009 Seahawks rushers were... I really can't find a word for it. Julius Jones and Edgerrin James?. Forsett was a good change of pace back but was never going to be a feature back. In 2012, the Seahawks have one of the premier backs in the league and one of the toughest rushers the NFL has seen in a long time. Robert Turbin or Christine Michael would easily be the most talented back on the 2009 squad, in 2013 they are battling for 2nd on the depth chart.

Receivers

2009

Age

G

GS

Rec

Yds

Y/R

TD

Houshmandzadeh

32

16

16

79

911

11.5

3

Burleson

28

13

12

63

812

12.9

3

Carlson

25

16

16

51

574

11.3

7

D. Branch

30

14

5

45

437

9.7

2

Forsett

24

16

2

41

350

8.5

1

J. Jones

28

14

14

35

232

6.6

2

2012

Age

G

GS

Rec

Yds

Y/R

TD

Rice

26

16

16

50

748

15

7

Tate

24

15

15

45

688

15.3

7

Harvin

24

9

8

62

677

10.9

3

Miller

27

16

15

38

396

10.4

3

Baldwin

24

14

5

29

366

12.6

3

McCoy

25

16

5

18

291

16.2

3

Lynch

26

16

14

23

196

8.5

1

Turbin

23

16

0

19

181

9.5

0

Robinson

29

16

4

13

126

9.7

2

The 2009 offseason saw us sign TJ Housh to a 5-year, $40 million deal with $15 million guaranteed in the bizarre incident of Jim Mora "holding" TJ's watch while he visited other clubs. In contrast, the 2013 'Hawks have one of the most dynamic offensive playmakers in the NFL. There is significant size, speed and blocking ability. These offensive players demand defensive scheming and challenge defensive coordinators to think hard how they will defend the running game and passing attack. The 2009 Seahawks scared no one. The overall lack of talent was self-defeating in every way, no dominant running game to play action from, no deep threats to stretch the field, defensive coordinators could stack the box and had little talent to worry about.. the only thing working was veteran savvy mostly at quarterback.

Defense

2009

Age

G

Sk

Int

TD

PD

FF

Tkl

Ast

Hawthorne

24

16

4

3

0

5

1

93

23

Babineaux

27

16

1.5

2

0

6

1

75

30

D. Grant

30

16

3

0

8

1

58

18

Curry

23

14

2

0

0

6

2

53

7

Trufant

29

10

2

0

6

43

6

Mebane

24

15

1.5

41

8

Tapp

25

16

2.5

0

0

3

0

40

9

Wilson

24

12

1

2

2

13

0

40

5

Hill

27

11

1

37

9

Herring

26

16

0

0

1

1

31

9

Cole

29

16

0

0

2

0

29

19

L. Jackson

24

16

4.5

0

0

2

2

28

4

Lucas

30

16

1

0

2

27

6

Jennings

27

16

0

0

5

25

3

Kerney

33

15

5

3

23

11

2012

Age

G

Sk

Int

TD

PD

FF

Tkl

Ast

Wagner

22

16

2

3

0

4

85

54

Winfield

35

16

0.5

3

0

12

0

71

29

Chancellor

24

16

0

0

4

1

69

22

Wright

23

15

1

1

0

5

1

66

30

Sherman

24

16

1

8

1

24

3

53

10

Thomas

23

16

3

1

9

1

39

22

Browner

28

12

3

0

6

3

35

9

Bennett

27

16

9

0

0

2

3

34

7

Mebane

27

16

3

0

0

3

0

31

25

Clemons

31

16

11.5

0

0

4

3

31

9

Avril

26

16

9.5

0

0

1

2

28

7

McDonald

25

14

0

0

1

17

8

Bryant

28

16

0

0

3

14

10

Irvin

22

16

8

1

10

7

2009 saw the decline of Patrick Kerney, Deon Grant and the entire defense. The best players were overachievers who made up for talent with football intelligence. Aaron Curry would end up a complete bust. The talent in the 2013 team leaps off the page, the players gone from the 2012 list have been replaced with younger and more talented versions. The secondary is the best in the NFL and the history of the franchise (on paper). In short, the 2013 defense is the one doing the "punching in the mouth".

Summary

The shift in talent in just three short seasons is nothing short of remarkable. It is best summed up as bigger, faster, stronger & younger vs. smaller, slower, weaker & older.

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