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A look back at four years of John Schneider/Pete Carroll drafts, to help direct us on our look forward to 2014.

Congrats 12th Man! You now have the coveted home field advantage and two weeks to rest your vocal chords. And, thanks to the structure of the NFL Draft, you now know the Hawks won’t be drafting before the 27th overall selection. Picks 1-20 go to non-playoff teams, 21-24 will go to the losers of the Wild Card weekend, and picks 25/26 are guaranteed to go to divisional round losers with lesser winning percentages than the Hawks. Obviously, if the Hawks win one game they climb into the 29+ range, win two games and it will be 31 or 32. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. In fact, let’s go back.

I thought I would take a look at a position-by-position analysis of the first four drafts of the Pete Carroll/John Schneider regime. It’s a different way to look at how this front office has approached the past drafts, and hopefully we can draw some insights into future drafts by knowing who and how we are.

First, some numbers for all four years:

OVERALL DRAFT

39 picks

10 picks per year

Hawks are currently only slated to pick 7 times (1, 2, 4, 5-Oakland, 5, 6, 7).

Average Draft Position

2013-#5.167

2012-#5.132

2011-#5.137

2010-#4.124

Overall-#5.141

Not only does it FEEL like the 5th round has been very, very good to Seattle, it actually plays out that the 5th is where they spend the most time/picks. These are your Kam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, Luke Willson steals.

Draft Accuracy by Round

(Players that are still with the team.)

1st-100% (4/4)

2nd-100% (3/3)

3rd-67% (2/3)

4th-43% (3/7)

5th-86% (6/7)

6th-80% (4/5)

7th-50% (5/10)

That damn 4th round. Day 1 & 2 of the draft John Schneider has been nearly flawless (90%), round 5 & 6 are even more impressive considering context (83%), and even pulling 50% in the 7th is probably above-average league-wide…but that damn 4th round.

QB

PCJS have literally only drafted one QB in four years. Russell Wilson.

Pick: #3.75 Ht: 5’11" Wt: 204

OC

Hawks have only drafted one Center as well, and it was the DT-to-OC conversion Jared Smith.

Pick: #7.241 Ht:6’3" Wt: 302

For all of the next position groups, we will take a look at how often we’ve drafted to the position, how often they have stuck with Seattle, average draft position, body prototype preferences (if applicable), and then a completely objective player comp from this year’s draft. For that last bit, I will try to find a player that matches ht/wt and that should be available when the Hawks generally draft that position. I will point out "reaches" if/when I see a player that is a dead-ringer for Seahawk prototypes. These are not necessarily players I want or am suggesting they draft (but sometimes they are)…but, more importantly, they simply fit these criteria. It becomes an additional way to find players to study pre-draft.

RB/FB

Draft Position

Frequency: 3

Still w/ Seattle: 3

Earliest DP: #2.62 (CMike)

Latest DP: #6.194 (Spencer Ware)

Average DP: #4.121

Measurables

Height(high): 5’10" Weight(high): 228

Height(low): 5’10" Weight(low): 221

Average: 5’10"/224

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Terrance West-Towson (5’11"/223, #124 overall on nfldraftscout’s big board)

Burst onto my radar during the above FCS playoff game. West's season stats are pretty eye-popping...even for a lower division. TD machine.

WR

Draft Position

Frequency: 3

Still w/ Seattle: 1

Earliest DP: #2.60 (Golden)

Latest DP: #4.123 (Chris Harper)

Average DP: #4.97

Measurables

Height(high): 6’6" Weight(high): 229

Height(low): 5’11" Weight(low): 195

Average: 6’2"/213

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Kasen Williams-Washington (6’2"/212, #102 overall)

So many questions with Kasen: the injury, the consistency, is he declaring...but can't question his size/athleticism.

TE

Draft Position

Frequency: 2

Still w/ Seattle: 2

Earliest DP: #5.158 (Luke Willson)

Latest DP: #6.185 (Anthony McCoy)

Average DP: #6.172

Measurables

Height(high): 6’5" Weight(high): 259

Height(low): 6’5" Weight(low): 251

Average: 6’5"/255

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Jake Murphy- Utah (6’4"/252, #193 overall)
(also, FYI: Arthur Lynch is 6’5"/254, but a 3rd rounder)

I'll be honest...I had NEVER watched Murphy before noting how well he fit the prototype. He is a junior who recently declared. I'm kinda digging his tape. He doesn't get a ton of targets (only 25 catches on the year...one more catch than Artie Lynch, but Murphy played 3 fewer games), but Jake makes the most of them averaging 16.7 YPC. This is a new name to watch!

OT/OG

Draft Position

Frequency: 6

Still w/ Seattle: 4

Earliest DP: #1.6 (Okung)

Latest DP: #7.242 (Michael Bowie)

Average DP: #4.132

Measurables

Height(high): 6’5" Weight(high): 332

Height(low): 6’4" Weight(low): 298

Average: 6’5"/314

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Billy Turner-NDSU (6’5"/315, #260 overall)

CB

Draft Position

Frequency: 5

Still w/ Seattle: 5

Earliest DP: #4.111 (WT3)

Latest DP: #6.173 (ByMax)

Average DP: #5.150

Measurables

Height(high): 6’3" Weight(high): 207

Height(low): 5’11" Weight(low): 190

Average: 6’1"/197

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Bennett Jackson-Notre Dame (6’0"/195, #230 overall)

S

Draft Position

Frequency: 4

Still w/ Seattle: 2

Earliest DP: #1.14 (Earl)

Latest DP: #6.181 (Winston Guy)

Average DP: #4.121

Measurables

Height(high): 6’3" Weight(high): 232

Height(low): 5’10" Weight(low): 202

Average: 6’1"/216

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Craig Loston-LSU (6’1"/209, #131 overall)
(also, FYI: Deone Bucannon is 6’1"/215, but a 2nd rounder)

Definitely some Boom to Loston's game. And we know the Hawks have enjoyed scouting LSU's backfield in the recent past.

LB

Draft Position

Frequency: 5

Still w/ Seattle: 4

Earliest DP: #2.47 (Wagz)

Latest DP: #7.242 (MalcSmitty)

Average DP: #5.156

Measurables

Height(high): 6’4" Weight(high): 246

Height(low): 6’0" Weight(low): 226

Average: 6’1"/238

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Jonathan Brown-Illinois (6’1"/230, #200 overall)

DE

Draft Position

Frequency: 4

Still w/ Seattle: 1

Earliest DP: #1.15 (Bruce Irvin)

Latest DP: #7.245 (Jameson Konz)

Average DP: #5.155

Measurables

Height(high): 6’4" Weight(high): 249

Height(low): 6’2" Weight(low): 234

Average: 6’3"/242

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Jeremiah Attaochu-Georgia Tech (6’3"/242, #108 overall)

Attaochu is a name that keeps popping up. He is a very good match for what the Seahawks do. This one intrigues me quite a bit on paper.

DT

Draft Position

Frequency: 5

Still w/ Seattle: 3

Earliest DP: #3.87 (Jordan Hill)

Latest DP: #7.232 (Scruggs)

Average DP: #5.155

Measurables

Height(high): 6’4" Weight(high): 325

Height(low): 6’1" Weight(low): 284

Average: 6’3"/301

2014 player that best embodies the prototype: Kelcy Quarles-S.Carolina (6’3"/298, #76 overall)

Analysis:

What have we learned?

  • · The earliest average draft position is for Quarterback, by a mile (and kind of by default of sample size). QB is followed by WR, RB/S.
  • · The latest average draft position is for Tight end.
  • · Running back and Safety end up with the exact same draft position.
  • · Defensive End and Defensive Tackle (and very nearly also Linebackers) have the same draft position.
  • · Cornerback has had, by far, the best "hit" rate, going 5-for-5 in players still on the team.
  • · Tight end has produced the best value (determined by a quick formula of draft position to productivity).
  • · Value chart goes (best to worst): TE, CB, LB, RB, DT, OL, QB, S, DE, WR.
  • · Hawks really do have a dead-on, balls-accurate type at RB, and that type is 5’10"/220+lbs.
  • · If you consider some of the FA/trade DE’s, there is also a pretty strong body type at DE/Leo (6’3"). Hawks will draft them a little bit lighter, with more speed, and allow them to bulk up with age/time.
  • · Due to the unique style and roles within Carroll’s DT scheme, there is really no one type in that position group. Very skillset driven.
  • · WR is similar to DT in that there doesn’t seem to be a body type: short squat, tall long, mid height and thick.
  • · PCJS do not have much patience for WR and DE. Know when to cut ties with them quickly.
  • · PCJS have far more patience with OL.

Projection:

  • · Don’t draft a CB early. Too much value to be found/grown late. Go CB in the 5th.
  • · Value to be found late at TE. But if looking for a TE1 of the future: draft him in the 2nd. Never the 1st.
  • · Only successes PCJS have had at WR have come from pretty early (2nd) and very late (UDFA, to be accurate). Draft a WR in the 2nd, and then again in the 7th or priority UDFA.
  • · 5th-round DT develop achingly slow. Average length of time in the NFL for our current active DT = over 5 years. If you need a DT to start year 1, have to draft him first 2 rounds. Otherwise, re-sign vets. Go with the latter this year and bring along Jordan Hill. Try to trade for a 3rd round pick and consider using it on DT with expectation he redshirts.
  • · Middle rounds are good for RB, LB, and S. Hawks don’t really need RB or LB, so look for a surprising Safety pick in the 4th.
  • · 1st round pick: don’t NEED it. Team has had almost as good of success with the trio of 2nd rounders (Golden, Bobby, and CMike) as it has from its quartet of 1sts (Okung, Earl, Carp, Bruce). Especially considering this year they will be picking closer to the spot that produced Carpenter than the years that produced Okung/Earl/Bruce. A pick in the 34-45 range PLUS a 3rd seems highly superior to picking at #32 alone.
  • · Gotta acquire a 3rd rounder. Just gotta.

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