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Awright, Ruskell-ites, check this out

There's a 3-team trade on the table. We would get a late (very late) 1st-round pick and two additional 3rd-rounders, in exchange for DJ and our 2nd-rounder.

That means we'd wind up one 1st-rounder and three 3rd-rounders.

(a) Would you do this? (b) Would the Seahawks do this?

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I will through my 2 Lincolns in
Depends on how late in the third round but lets say it is the original teams 3rd, not an additional teams third.

A) I would in a heartbeat nevertheless.  With how deep our 2nd round pick is in the draft, it may not matter too much.  The only thing that would make me not want to do this is to what team DJ was going to.  If it was an NFC team than no, unless it was to the bears because we know Rex can't hit him anyway (sorry Chad).

Also I would only do it if we could grab Olsen and him only.  If he was off the board then no.

This a very deep draft for OG's and we still need one.  I would hope then that we could trade up with a couple of our extra 3rd round picks and grab Solai.

2) It all depends on whom the team was.  I think Ruskell could and will though.  

Didn't DMZ make fun of your dad? - Scruffy Lefty to Coach Owens ...... - Coach Owens to Scruffy Lefty

by Christian on Apr 6, 2007 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

DJ...
DJ would be going to an NFC competitor. There are two scenarios on the table, both involving DJ going to a team we'll face next year, at least once.

One is a three-way, by which we would get a late 1st and two late-ish 3rds.

Another is straight-up, by which we would get a slightly earlier first rounder and a 4th-rounder -- and they would get DJ and our 2nd. If DJ meets certain landmarks in 2007, they would bump our choice up from the 4th round to the 3rd.

Intriguing as that one sounds, I'm leaning towards the three-way: More overall picks, and with the deep talent pool on the line, less chance of a bust.

Thoughts?

--Shrug

by Shrug on Apr 6, 2007 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

PS
Forgot: In the three-way, we would send DJ and our 2nd round pick to an NFC competitor. That competitor would send the other (AFC) team in the deal at least two 2nd-and-lower round picks (I believe). We get three of that AFC team's picks: one 1st rounder, two 3rd rounders.

All I'm prepared to say publically about the AFC team in question is that it holds one of the last four picks in the first round.

--Shrug

by Shrug on Apr 6, 2007 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

well
We get basically a glorified low 2nd round pick, lose 10-ish places in the 3rd round, but in return get two picks instead of one.

Assuming Shrug hasn't been knocking back margaritas at the Salty Senorita and has a decent idea who to draft, I say go for the three-way w/ the extra picks. We have a suffusion of wealth at WR, 3 of 4 starters just recently having been locked up long term. Why not.

by Captain Morgan on Apr 6, 2007 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've accepted the 3-way trade.
And stop following me around in that white van while I'm in Scottsdale. It was a business lunc... err, dinne.... err, karaoke night... with our paid companions...
--Shrug

by Shrug on Apr 6, 2007 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops,
sorry about the double post.

by Coach Owens on Apr 6, 2007 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would do it in a second
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 6, 2007 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Very well.
That's what I've been leaning towards myself. I'll notify the participants.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Apr 6, 2007 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I've notified the parties.
Trade will be accepted, if the third party agrees.

BTW, we're talking Colts and 49ers.

--Shrug

by Shrug on Apr 6, 2007 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, we are not going to be able to get Olsen...
as Chicago is virtually guaranteed to take him before us.

I was going to throw up a post today about D-Jack's value to potential trade partners (in fact, it's 95% written), and why he would be a great pick-up for some teams whose title window is closing and not such a hot pick-up for a few up and coming teams, but it looks like GM Shrug has already worked us a good deal so let's not do anything to screw that up.

I'll be back to regular posting tomorrow analyzing some ways we can make our newly acquired first rounder and bevy of third rounders to work for us. Thanks for the patience, I don't have anything to announce just yet, but soon maybe...

by John Morgan on Apr 7, 2007 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Exactly.
And now knowing that DJ will be headed to an NFC west foe doesn't make it worth it.  I just don't see anyone there for us who will be of need.
Didn't DMZ make fun of your dad? - Scruffy Lefty to Coach Owens ...... - Coach Owens to Scruffy Lefty

by Christian on Apr 7, 2007 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't really bug me
because D Jack will just get hurt again

And for some reason I am not a big fan of Olsen but I thinks thats cause he is from the U

V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 8, 2007 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess then the question has to be
if Olsen is gone then whom?  I think we would be reaching for someone if it wasn't him.

Second, while we do lose DJ, and we gain two third round picks, who have been good to us, it seems as though all we did was move picks around for someone who may have been available to us at our normal 2nd round spot.  I am not criticizing Shrug at all on this one, just don't want to do a trade just to do a trade.  I am curious though that possibly we could have traded DJ to Houston and given them one of our extra 6th rounders for their 21st pick.  

Also, I don't have a web source but heard it on ESPN radio on Friday that the Panthers were open to trading Jenkins.  Just sayin....

Didn't DMZ make fun of your dad? - Scruffy Lefty to Coach Owens ...... - Coach Owens to Scruffy Lefty

by Christian on Apr 8, 2007 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

forgive my ignorance...
exactly what picks did we start with, and what do we have now?

third rounders have been good to us: sims, locklear, hill.

by minor threat on Apr 8, 2007 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

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