Field Gulls: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:



Around SBN: A Look Back: Steelers-Chargers 2008 Regular Season MatchUp Bar-right-arrows



Game Day Open Thread -- Week 3: Cincinnati at Seattle

at
September 16, 1pm Pacific
Qwest Field
CBS-TV (7)

Carson Palmer visits. T.J. Whosyourmama as well. Chad Johnson books the Seattle Lite Opera for a potential end zone celebration. And you are there. Let's run up the score, shall we? We shall.

Star-divide

Update Three Keys --John

  • The Hawks rushing attack has to break out and that starts with the offensive line. Shaun Alexander has shown that given a hole he can still be a productive back, but he fails to hit creases and seems with authority. Putting aside Alexander's age and recent spate of injuries, that's been true his entire career--just never to this extent. In the second half in Arizona Mike Holmgren began loosening the run blocking calls. Robs Sims, specifically, was asked to pull block with more regularity. Sims as a pull blocker is still a work in progress. Seahawks fans weaned on Steve Hutchinson's ability to move through traffic and square up and dominate his man on the second level must adjust their expectations. Sims hasn't quite the agility of Hutch, but he has most of the power and quickness. What he lacks, but can realistically be expected to learn, is the ability to work through traffic. Once Sims can decipher the wreckage comprising the post-snap defensive/offensive lines, he should be able to slide into the second level and provide the kind of forceful pull blocker that makes Mike Holmgren's power rushing attack work. With the Bengals linebacker corps thin and depleted, Alexander should--and really must--excel if Seattle gives him room to work.
  • I may harp on this fact until I'm blue in the face, but the Hawks defense is built on the pass rush. No player is as essential to that rush working as Rocky Bernard. Bernard doesn't always get the sacks, but no player on the Hawks consistently degrades the pocket like Bernard. Interior pressure does a funny thing to quarterbacks: Some scramble to the left or right often into the teeth of a defensive end or blitzing linebacker or DB (see Tampa Bay), others force the pass; Matt Leinart showed poise and patience waiting for his receiver to get open. Last week I talked about protecting Kelly Jennings against a mismatch, to a limited extent they did. Seven receptions and 87 yards is a productive but not dominating showing for a wide receiver of Larry Fitzgerald's caliber. This week the Hawks must protect both corners. Despite not converting a sack, the Hawks amped up the pressure in the second half. In the first half of the contest Seattle's line looked overmatched. Leinart averaged 9.19 yards per attempt. In the second half Seattle's pressure kept Leinart checking down and he averaged only 6.63 yards per attempt. Sacks are gravy against the Bengals, the rush must limit the downfield passing attack.
  • The final key is unsettling in a way, but important to Seattle winning today and vital to the Hawks hopes of contention. Walter Jones must play better. Jones allowed two sacks against an iffy Bucs pass rush. He looked improved in the second half against the Cards. Unfortunately, that might be as much the continuing decline of Bertrand Berry as Jones. Jones faces his toughest matchup, Justin Smith, of this young season and he must win it. One of the greatest tackles in the history of the NFL, you want to give Jones the benefit of the doubt, but Jones wouldn't be the first once dominant player to hit a wall entering his mid thirties. Without at least a very good left tackle Seattle has no chance at true contention.

Apologies to Bill Watterson. Let's hope Seattle doesn't play the role of Calvin today.

0 recs | Comment 253 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

test
I'm posting this from my phone. Because I am a Dorkus.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Sep 22, 2007 9:37 PM PDT   0 recs

green and gold
I just hope the Seahawk defense is closer to the one we saw in Week 1 rather than the one last week.  I don't want to see the defense channeling their inner SuperSonic.  
Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 10:41 AM PDT   0 recs

well so much for the Lions
that was cute while it lasted.
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Sep 23, 2007 11:18 AM PDT   0 recs

How many thousands of people are cursing...
themselves for not starting Kevin Curtis right now and how many thousands more will be disappointed when he fails to record a touchdown reception next week?

Meanwhile, I believe in Mike Martz.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 11:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

raises hand.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2007 11:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What does it take to insult people's intelligence
and how many prisons are they going to break out of on "Prison Break"? Am I the only one who thinks season five (godwilling) will somehow involve Alcatraz?

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 11:32 AM PDT   0 recs

Prison Break
is the best comedy on TV.

by bluemax on Sep 23, 2007 1:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

good god.
205 yards and 3 TDs in the first half for curtis.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2007 11:36 AM PDT   0 recs

14-15 332 yards 4 TDs
and we're not out of the first half.

looks like scruffy has me owned.

Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2007 11:37 AM PDT   0 recs

holy smokes
I just got back from golf. Thats awesome
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 23, 2007 12:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Weirdness in Pittsburgh
Moose sounds certain the officials screwed up and I'm no rules buff but I think he's right.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 12:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good job.
Why not put that into the original post underneath the three keys.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 12:10 PM PDT   0 recs

I got a weird error
and got nervous about killing the game thread. But I'll give it another shot
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 23, 2007 12:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

nevermind
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 23, 2007 12:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pitt 20, San Fran 9
Overratted undefeated team soon to be not undefeated but remain overrated.

The 49er pass defense is legit, that's it.

DAMNIT!

by TIF on Sep 23, 2007 12:37 PM PDT   0 recs

Their line
Sucks on both sides of the ball.
DAMNIT!

by TIF on Sep 23, 2007 12:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So, uh, you think the Niners are smart enough to..
draft a QB next year? Alex Smith has solid tools but damn does he panic when he's rushed.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 12:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Off topic
But my fantasy team in my personal league (same settings as the FG league) Is a wrecking ball of dominance.

Tom Brady
Romo
Steve Smith
Randy Moss
Brian Westbrook

It doesn't even matter who else I start

V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 23, 2007 12:55 PM PDT   0 recs

couch
Hey, it's the pits for the 49ers today.  Najeh Davenport just took a dump on them.  Make it 37-16 for the Steelers.  
Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 12:59 PM PDT   0 recs

I watch the Seahawks
because I know that Anaheim can never clinch against them.

by katal on Sep 23, 2007 1:05 PM PDT   0 recs

have they come to play today?
this is a statement game.

by Matthew on Sep 23, 2007 1:09 PM PDT   0 recs

Arizona loses
Baltimore has earned the only win against the NFCW they're going to receive this year.

by katal on Sep 23, 2007 1:09 PM PDT   0 recs

Awesome opener.
Special teams!!

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 1:09 PM PDT   0 recs

That was easy
Josh Wilson needs to not try to cut that back and just out run the guy. But a hell of a start
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 23, 2007 1:09 PM PDT   0 recs

Nice start!
I'm really not paying that much attention to the game - my Rockies are playing a big game this afternoon in San Diego (yeah, I'm one of those rare out-of-state Seahawks fans) - but I've got the Gamecast up and I'm excited to see that start.
Visit The Power Of 12 at mvn.com/nfl-seahawks

by Franchise26 on Sep 23, 2007 1:10 PM PDT   0 recs

They're keeping their safeties deep.
I like Mr. Universe, but I don't buy that call.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 1:18 PM PDT   0 recs

"If Tatupu has 10 or 12 tackles today...
the Seahawks will win." That's possibly the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 1:24 PM PDT   0 recs

TJ HOUSAWHATZA!
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2007 1:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Cheaters.
Hell of a route Chad.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 1:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Off PI there uncalled
thanks refs

by Matthew on Sep 23, 2007 1:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Obvious pick
No one gets that wide open.

by Seishi on Sep 23, 2007 1:26 PM PDT   0 recs

nice pick Chad
wow, lucky recovery on that play.
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Sep 23, 2007 1:30 PM PDT   0 recs

He really looks like
Shaun of the Dead. HA! Get it? Oh, I crack myself up sometimes.

by Coach Owens on Sep 23, 2007 1:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wow
Shaun sucks

by Matthew on Sep 23, 2007 1:36 PM PDT   0 recs

Can someone get a screen grab of that?
That spin move was sub-bush league.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 1:36 PM PDT   0 recs

Anyone think Shaun falls down because his foot's..
cracked? I'm no doctor, but a broken foot might hurt your rushing a little.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 1:39 PM PDT   0 recs

Ridiculous.
Skeletal integrity is way overrated.
Stuck in Virginia with no Seahawks goodness!

by Cornflakes on Sep 23, 2007 1:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

[thinking hourglass]...
Yes, the Seahawk defense sucks.  
Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 1:45 PM PDT   0 recs

Um.

Wait. PICK?

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 1:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

SEA HAWKS!!
Run WEAVER!!

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 1:45 PM PDT   0 recs

how did that split the seattle D
and then FUMMMMMMMMMMMMBLEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Matthew on Sep 23, 2007 1:45 PM PDT   0 recs

handsmundzadeh
Mama like turnovers.  
Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 1:46 PM PDT   0 recs

oh fuck us

by Matthew on Sep 23, 2007 1:46 PM PDT   0 recs

wow, nice catch..whoever that was
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Sep 23, 2007 1:47 PM PDT   0 recs

i don't like this game.
Hasselbeck's first interception in a while.  

Hey, last week this same Bengal defense...

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 1:47 PM PDT   0 recs

confession
Chad Johnson is on my fantasy team.  That makes the first Cincy touchdown hurt more because TJ doesn't benefit my fake team.  
Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 1:49 PM PDT   0 recs

hey!
A third-down stop by the Seahawk defense!

Cincy is now only 5-for-6 on third downs today.  

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 1:52 PM PDT   0 recs

couple nice plays by Russell
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Sep 23, 2007 1:52 PM PDT   0 recs

yardhouse
That Cincy defense that last week was so great is holding the Seahawk offense to 72 total yards.  

The Seahawk defense has given up only 176 yards.  

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 1:54 PM PDT   0 recs

uuuuup
Zero net rushing yards!
Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 1:56 PM PDT   0 recs

plackemeier
At least someone is sort of doing their job today.  
Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 1:58 PM PDT   0 recs

now if they could ever manage to stop
the passing game???

by Matthew on Sep 23, 2007 2:01 PM PDT   0 recs

Terrible play call.
That was awful. Marshall that's on you.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 2:01 PM PDT   0 recs

2nd and 20
that was pathetic
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Sep 23, 2007 2:02 PM PDT   0 recs

Mebane.
Welcome to the bigs Baller.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 2:02 PM PDT   0 recs

Is this going like Jeff and
Ben Broussard where you "Swoon" over Mebane?

by Coach Owens on Sep 23, 2007 2:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wow hawks
you cannot stop any pass

by Matthew on Sep 23, 2007 2:03 PM PDT   0 recs

whew
Well, it's a baby step if they only allow a 17-yard pass on 3rd-and-20.  
Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 2:04 PM PDT   0 recs

no handoffs!!!!

by Harrison on Sep 23, 2007 2:05 PM PDT   0 recs

Palmer, helping out the fantasy team!
:(
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Sep 23, 2007 2:05 PM PDT   0 recs

hmmph
I just have a weird feeling that Rudi Johnson still has to run for 100 yards or something.  The Seahawks had no backup plan if Marcus Tubbs got injured, after all.  

I guess in that case, Cincy's plan would be to build a big enough lead, then it'll be Run Rudi Run.  

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Sep 23, 2007 2:05 PM PDT   0 recs

The Bengals D is shutting us down
the freaking Browns hung 51 points on this team.
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Sep 23, 2007 2:09 PM PDT   0 recs

So how about that defense.
Think we could try another running back now?

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 2:11 PM PDT   0 recs

YES!!!!!
Great signing there!

by Coach Owens on Sep 23, 2007 2:11 PM PDT   0 recs

good job by Grant!
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Sep 23, 2007 2:12 PM PDT   0 recs

Elbow Drop on Shaun
Did Dwayne Johnson redo football?
DAMNIT!

by TIF on Sep 23, 2007 2:15 PM PDT   0 recs

BRANCH!
BOO YAH!
DAMNIT!

by TIF on Sep 23, 2007 2:16 PM PDT   0 recs

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Coach Owens on Sep 23, 2007 2:16 PM PDT   0 recs

THAT PLAY HAD SO MUCH TOUCH
BECK SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR MOLESTATION
DAMNIT!

by TIF on Sep 23, 2007 2:17 PM PDT   0 recs

Does everyone understand how good this team could
be with an even competent--no, no three marginal running backs sharing carries.

This love affair with Alabama must end. He's cooked. You have incredible depth.

FREE THE FIELD!!

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 2:17 PM PDT   0 recs

Resurrecting the dead.
Looks like Kurt Cobain's become a meat puppet after all.

by John Morgan on Sep 23, 2007 2:21 PM PDT   0 recs

You win.
Subcultural reference of the week. We're forwarding a DVD of Hype! to your house immediately.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Sep 23, 2007 8:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs