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Real in the Field Gulls: Aaron Schatz on DVOA, Will Brinson on the Panthers

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We've got an excellent double-header on the podcast today!

First, Aaron Schatz of FootballOutsiders, the creator of DVOA, joins us to talk about what DVOA is, what it means for the Seahawks and the Panthers, plus why Russell Wilson was his pick for MVP. You'd think that we forced Aaron to come on and say nice things about Wilson and Seattle, but really he's just going with what the numbers say. (Schatz is a Patriots fan, by the way.)

Then, Will Brinson of CBS Sports, and a Carolina Panthers fan, joins us to preview the Panthers, Cam Newton, and tells us what the Seahawks will have to do in order to win this game and advance to the NFC Championship for the third year in a row.

We've also got a new sponsor for the show!  Great Leap Studios, a content writing, content marketing, and SEO company that started in Seattle (Go Hawks!) and is now based in Folsom, California, near Sacramento. Great Leap Studios provides content writing, online marketing, social media management, and website design services to clients across the nation, in dozens of different industries. They like Real in the Field Gulls, so please go like them!

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Of course, we also want to thank our Patreon donors. We're well on our way to having the necessary equipment, software, and podcast hosting fees necessary to bring RitFG to the next level in 2016! Please throw in a few bucks, if you can. Thank you!


Thanks again to David Fagerholm for the excellent playoffs edition theme song!